BR Borail EB/EC ‘fishbelly’ flat wagons, and air-braked YLA Mullet, YQA Parr and YQA Super Tench OO and N gauge

[St. Simon]

34 minutes ago, Alan Oliver said:

Are these only available through Revolution, cannot find them anywhere else.

 

Alan

Hi,

 

I assume they’ll be like other models that once the order book has closed they will then open them up to retailers, that’s how it seems to have worked for the IPA and HOA wagons, but I could be wrong as it doesn’t seem to follow a pattern.

 

I’m sure the Revolution guys will clarify in due course.

 

Simon

[Alan Oliver]

Cheers 

 

[Southernman46]

Any update on these ??

[PaulCheffus]

1 hour ago, Southernman46 said:

Any update on these ??

Hi

 

https://revolutiontrains.com/projects/

 

Cheers

 

Paul

[Revolution Mike]

We’re starting production of the N gauge version in October (order deadline 30/9/23). For the OO version we’re waiting for the livery samples which shouldn’t be too much longer. 
 

cheers Mike

[hmrspaul]

Interesting that many of these in 2 and 4mm are using my photos downloaded from the site - they have the copyright on them so not even paid 85p. The TUAs appeared to use a lot of my photos for inspiration as well. I would expect an ex Journalist to understand copyright as other manufacturer's do. 

 

Paul

[Mike Harvey]

10 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

Interesting that many of these in 2 and 4mm are using my photos downloaded from the site - they have the copyright on them so not even paid 85p. The TUAs appeared to use a lot of my photos for inspiration as well. I would expect an ex Journalist to understand copyright as other manufacturer's do. 

 

Paul

Bit surprised by this comment as it seems to me that Revolution have been meticulous in quoting the source of photos and referencing the author's name and the permission. Been back through this topic and cannot find any in it at all.

[Dungrange]

11 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

Interesting that many of these in 2 and 4mm are using my photos downloaded from the site - they have the copyright on them so not even paid 85p. The TUAs appeared to use a lot of my photos for inspiration as well. I would expect an ex Journalist to understand copyright as other manufacturer's do. 

 

Paul

 

Looking at https://revolutiontrains.com/projects/wagons/borail-mullet-parr-super-tench-masterclass/ all the photographs seem to state 'photo courtesy of XXX'.  The only exception is the last one, which was obviously taken by a member of Revolution Trains staff of one of their employees.  Where are the images that don't respect copyright?

 

[Southernman46]

21 hours ago, Southernman46 said:

Any update on these ??

Christ - I only asked - didn't intend to stir up a sh*tstorm .....................................

[Steven B]

2 hours ago, Dungrange said:

Where are the images that don't respect copyright?

 

The ones on the Revolution shop pages match Paul's description:

https://revolutiontrains.com/product/borail-bra/

https://revolutiontrains.com/product/br-borail-bra-rail-carrier-oo-4mm-railfreight-red/

 

Steven B

[spackz]

OO Gauge samples:

 

https://revolutiontrains.com/mullets-can-look-good/?fbclid=IwAR0aMmOZH7b7I9lbZU4tf4Kvn0cZyWAxyZsibkHvMkxZlPG_og0i1_3EH_k

[Revolution Ben]

 

Hello all,

 

Just for clarity the wheels on the samples are accommodation wheels and for production models the wheel diameters will be correct.

 

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

Edited September 14, 2023 by Revolution Ben

[Southernman46]

The bauxite looks too "milk chocolatey"

These were a much flatter brown - the sheen on the paintwork makes them look "wrong".

This is what I mean .............. Check B946080 in PB's collection

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail

Edited September 14, 2023 by Southernman46

[Revolution Ben]

 

Hello all,

 

A gentle reminder that midnight tonight (September 30th) is the deadline for pre-orders on the N gauge Borails, Mullets, Parrs and Super Tenches.

 

The models will be available from retailers after they have been produced (expected to be Q1 next year but, as ever, that is not a surefire date) for those who have missed out but of course the prices will be higher as they will include a trade margin.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

[SouthernMafia]

On 12/09/2023 at 18:34, spackz said:

OO Gauge samples:

 

https://revolutiontrains.com/mullets-can-look-good/?fbclid=IwAR0aMmOZH7b7I9lbZU4tf4Kvn0cZyWAxyZsibkHvMkxZlPG_og0i1_3EH_k

 

Missed this... looking good and encouraging that the Railfreight red will be corrected, I hope the same for the yellow that's apparently Dutch?

[Revolution Ben]

3 hours ago, SouthernMafia said:

 

Missed this... looking good and encouraging that the Railfreight red will be corrected, I hope the same for the yellow that's apparently Dutch?

 

Hi there,

 

We are happy with the shade of yellow.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

[SouthernMafia]

11 hours ago, Revolution Ben said:

 

Hi there,

 

We are happy with the shade of yellow.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

 

Hi Ben,

 

Having had a quick look on Paul's site, I concede that the yellow is closer than I thought to some wagons he has photographs of, but it does seem quite bright.

 

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail/e323f103e

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail/e27ba7789

 

 

However, it is definitely not Dutch yellow as advertised:

 

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail/e34f6cead

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail/e209848fe

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail/e282286c0

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Revolution Ben]

 

Hello Rich,

 

I was wrong - I checked and the yellow on the sample isn't the specified colour and is too lemony.

 

When these wagons go into production in the New Year we will ensure the colour is corrected.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

[SouthernMafia]

36 minutes ago, Revolution Ben said:

 

Hello Rich,

 

I was wrong - I checked and the yellow on the sample isn't the specified colour and is too lemony.

 

When these wagons go into production in the New Year we will ensure the colour is corrected.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

 

Thanks for checking Ben, great to hear. I've got a few packs on order so looking forward to seeing them with the correct shades.

 

Cheers

[Southernman46]

On 13/09/2023 at 20:18, Southernman46 said:

The bauxite looks too "milk chocolatey"

These were a much flatter brown - the sheen on the paintwork makes them look "wrong".

This is what I mean .............. Check B946080 in PB's collection

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brborail

Seeing the latest photo (below) on the deadline thread - the bauxite is definitely still too "milk chocolately" - might be the flash brightness of the photo. The wheels look too large too - these were fitted with 2' 8" dia (= 11mm in 00) rather than standard 3' 1 1/2" ones (13mm in 00).

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Southernman46

[Revolution Ben]

Hi all,

 

Yes, some colours are going to be amended and as has been said previously these models were sent on 'accommodation' wheels, rather than those that will be used on the production models.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

[WCML100]

The 00 samples looked great on the stand at Warley at the weekend. Especially the super tench with the mesh sides!

 

 

[ModRXsouth]

In due course, looking forward to seeing the mesh in the N gauge Super Tench! Superb in your photo of the OO gauge sample.

Edited November 28, 2023 by ModRXsouth
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[Southernman46]

The bauxite is still too shiny ............... hoping this is the same pre-production BRV as before and hasn't been modified yet as per Ben's response above

[Pegleg90]

2 hours ago, WCML100 said:

The 00 samples looked great on the stand at Warley at the weekend. Especially the super tench with the mesh sides!

 

 

 

Loved looking at the super trench sample as have it on pre-order. Great detailed model, cant wait for the production models to arrive. 

 

The trench section was bowed up slightly in the middle but assumed this is just pre-production and will be much flatter/level once in production.