RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted June 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2010 Hi guys, I've had a further email from Hornby today about release dates: Tintagel Castle - now due July - I forgot to as if that was R2848X - The DCC fitted one. 28xx 2-8-0 R2916x is due out the end of August. (DCC fitted) - This is ther Collet goods loco with GWR shirtbutton logo on the tender. The new 61xx is due at the end of July. I thought I read somewhere (maybe Model Rail January) that this was new tooling. Hornby advise today it is not new tooling, just DCC ready. (Presumably for the first time.) Really looking forward to late Summer, although it's going to be expensive!!! Not sure I can justify two 28xx, maybe two Castles though! Let's hope the dates don't slip again and that there is enough stock to go round! Regards, Neal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Neal, did you hear anything about R2915 (No. 2818 - the NRM 28XX with "Great Western" on the tender)? I am looking forward to Tintagel Castle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted June 21, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 21, 2010 Neal, did you hear anything about R2915 (No. 2818 - the NRM 28XX with "Great Western" on the tender)? I am looking forward to Tintagel Castle. No sorry did not ask. Just checking on the shirtbutton tender, in an effort to keep the roundel alive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 28xx 2-8-0 R2916x is due out the end of August. (DCC fitted) - This is ther Collet goods loco with GWR shirtbutton logo on the tender. Regards, Neal I assume that is the 2884 class if its the Collett type? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 I assume that is the 2884 class if its the Collett type? R2916 is illustrated on the Hornby website as No. 2812. I imagine Neal intended Churchward where he wrote Collett. The only GWR liveried 2884 class (with the Collett era cab window) that Hornby announced is R2918 which they illustrate as carrying No. 3803. This is in Hawksworth livery. I have no idea when these are expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted June 22, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2010 . I imagine Neal intended Churchward where he wrote Collett. Yes sorry! - too excited with an impending date! - got carried away! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 22, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yes sorry! - too excited with an impending date! - got carried away! I understand the container is due at Margate on July 19th (assuming 'Tintagel' is coming in the same tinbox as 'Swindon', which seems likely) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 22, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2010 Typical.Theyr'e like buses you wait for one for ages then two or three come along at once.This will give my wallet a hammering. I bet theyr'e released when I'm on holiday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hi guys, I've had a further email from Hornby today about release dates: Tintagel Castle - now due July - I forgot to as if that was R2848X - The DCC fitted one. 28xx 2-8-0 R2916x is due out the end of August. (DCC fitted) - This is ther Collet goods loco with GWR shirtbutton logo on the tender. The new 61xx is due at the end of July. I thought I read somewhere (maybe Model Rail January) that this was new tooling. Hornby advise today it is not new tooling, just DCC ready. (Presumably for the first time.) Really looking forward to late Summer, although it's going to be expensive!!! Not sure I can justify two 28xx, maybe two Castles though! Let's hope the dates don't slip again and that there is enough stock to go round! Regards, Neal The 61xx has been released DCC ready before. Apart from that, it looks damn good for us Western lovers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted July 27, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2010 Tintagel Castle - Now October. No update on 28xx or 61xx. At least we now know why the Castle was not included in the July newsletter and more significantly, in the GWR 175 adverts. Will it really be here in October??? What about the comments on 2nd July in MRE Mag from Simon Kohler that it would be in the Uk from 5th July........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 11, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2010 Three of the '28s' were on show in a display case at Swindon today - 3803 in 'shirtbutton' livery, 2818 with full 'Great Western' on the tender and the oddity - 2810 in late BR black. 2810 caused me a problem as I couldn't recall it being in the catalogue in the condition in which it was shown but Simon Kohler assured me it is as it will be released. Well that's going to be minus a few points for Hornby as (the lightened to show the detail) pic below shows it to have no outside steam pipes whereas the RCTS lists it as having outside steampipes from NOvember 1947, i.e. before it acquired any sort of BR livery. Not a problem assuming the right etched plates are available but even then the choice for locos in the later BR emblem with no outside steampipes is pretty limited. While it's hardly a major bonus there's a small silver lining on my particular cloud as I won't now have to bother with repainting a green one to get one in any sort of BR livery without the outside steampipes. But what a boob on Hornby's part But that faux pas apart the locos look to be well up to the standard of 'Castle' - perhaps even beyond it - and well worth the wait; I understand they will be in the shops before the end of this month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted September 11, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2010 Yes would have liked to have seen a black BR with outside steam pipes. The cab detail is nothing short of stunning, easily the best 2-8-0 I have seen to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 11, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2010 Yes would have liked to have seen a black BR with outside steam pipes. The cab detail is nothing short of stunning, easily the best 2-8-0 I have seen to date. 2810 is shown in the catalogue with outside steampipes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Thanks for posting those photos Mike... what a great looking model! With this impending release in mind I took some shots of 3803 at Toddington this week, as it was being loaded onto a trailor (forgot to ask where it was going ), thought I may as well post them here.... hope they are of some use... Nidge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted September 11, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2010 Weird that the 2810 model on show is wrong for late crest BR, lets hope Hornby realise this and either re-number or re-crest it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 15, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2010 Weird that the 2810 model on show is wrong for late crest BR, lets hope Hornby realise this and either re-number or re-crest it. Sadly far too late if expected to be available in the shops by the end of this month. They should already be on a boat... At least this has solved my Churchward or Collett cab dilemna, because I too wanted a BR livery with inside steam pipes. I just thought I would have longer to save up. Seems not, now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 15, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2010 Thanks for posting those photos Mike... what a great looking model! With this impending release in mind I took some shots of 3803 at Toddington this week, as it was being loaded onto a trailor (forgot to ask where it was going ), thought I may as well post them here.... hope they are of some use... Nidge Very nice Nidge - you'll find a somewhat more latterday BR appearance here, and yes - still in traffic! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/gallery/image/5087-2852-didcot-shed-c1963/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Very nice Nidge - you'll find a somewhat more latterday BR appearance here, and yes - still in traffic! http://www.rmweb.co....cot-shed-c1963/ Thanks Mike, I'm sure that Didcot shot will turn will turn out to be very useful . I wish I'd taken a few more of 3807 actually, the haulier chaps didn't seem to mind folk getting up close taking snaps while they were busy working (I wasn't the only one). I still think that GW locos look half naked without a BR smokebox number plate though! I picked up some handy b&w prints of various 28xx / 38xx's in Howes the other day too... looking forward to bagging a Hornby one soon. Nidge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I missed off adding this detail shot of 3807 earlier... Fireman's side, below decks... Nidge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
22xx Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Three of the '28s' were on show in a display case at Swindon today - 3803 in 'shirtbutton' livery ... And very nice they were, too. Incidentally, 3803 is shown in the catalogue as having Hawksworth 'GWR' lettering on the tender (R2918 and R2918X). So which are we going to get, I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2010 Three of the '28s' were on show in a display case at Swindon today - 3803 in 'shirtbutton' livery, And very nice they were, too. Incidentally, 3803 is shown in the catalogue as having Hawksworth 'GWR' lettering on the tender (R2918 and R2918X). So which are we going to get, I wonder? I think Mike's earlier Post 11 (including photo) answers your question - 3803 will be 'shirtbutton', not G W R, livery. It does seem as though Hornby has changed the specs for a number of the 2800/2884 locos they are producing compared with what's in the catalogue. What a mess that's going to make with everyone's pre-orders... . I think I'm going to have to wait for all versions to be available before deciding which to buy, or if I need to wait. I would expect there will be more variants in the 2011 Hornby Catalogue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I think Mike's earlier Post 11 (including photo) answers your question - 3803 will be 'shirtbutton', not G W R, livery. It does seem as though Hornby has changed the specs for a number of the 2800/2884 locos they are producing compared with what's in the catalogue. What a mess that's going to make with everyone's pre-orders... . I think I'm going to have to wait for all versions to be available before deciding which to buy, or if I need to wait. I would expect there will be more variants in the 2011 Hornby Catalogue. I hope that they are not repeating the confusion they made with the Schools. When the Schools were announced, none of their proprietary data sources: the Christmas announcement, printed catalogue or on-line catalogue matched. It was chaos trying to order anything, though because it took so long for them to actually ship the Schools everything for me got sorted in the end. If it helps anyone here's my interpretation from Hornby's on-line calendar Hornby | Running -| Steam --| Tender Number | Number --| Pipes --| Side ================================================================== R2915 -| No. 2818 | Inside -| Great __ Western (NRM) R2916 -| No. 2812 | Inside -| shirtbutton R2917 -| No. 2810 | Outside | BR late crest (shown without steam pipes at STEAM) R2918 -| No. 3803 | Outside | G W R (shown with Shirtbutton at STEAM) R2919 -| No. 2891 | Outside | BR late crest I am completely ignorant regarding the 2800/2884 steam pipes other than this tantalizing clue from Wikipedia: "The only serious problem met with in traffic was with the sealing of the internal steam pipes. Beginning in 1934 most of the class had them replaced with the outside kind." Were all the 2800s built with inside steam pipes? What about the 2884s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport_rod Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 If i've read my RCTS Locos of the GWR Part 9 correctly Were all the 2800s built with inside steam pipes? Yes, but all except 2863/68/80 were subsequently converted, between 1934 and 54 What about the 2884s? Outside steam pipes from new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport_rod Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Fitting dates for the Hornby Locos No. 2818 Outside steam pipes fitted, date not recorded No. 2812 Outside steam pipes fitted 2/47 No. 2810 Outside steam pipes fitted 11/47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 If i've read my RCTS Locos of the GWR Part 9 correctly Were all the 2800s built with inside steam pipes? Yes, but all except 2863/68/80 were subsequently converted, between 1934 and 54 What about the 2884s? Outside steam pipes from new Fitting dates for the Hornby Locos No. 2818 Outside steam pipes fitted, date not recorded No. 2812 Outside steam pipes fitted 2/47 No. 2810 Outside steam pipes fitted 11/47 Thanks Rod. That really helps me make sense of it. If you look at No 2810 on the Hornby Website, you can see that the image is photoshopped. The "black" on the locomotive is clearly green, compared with the black on the tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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