RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, sulzer71 said: Hi Looking through this list I don't believe Railfreight Red Stripe started in 82 , was more like 85/86 as far as I recall Dave I think the reference I got it from was to the red stripe appearing on wagons not locos, officially it came in in 1980 but took a while to spread. This site says 1980 for stock http://igg.org.uk/rail/6-livy/br/9-br-tops.htm 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted January 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, 03060 said: Possibly of interest Class 26s that I have seen photos of on the WHL either in books or on Flickr type photo sites are : BR Green D5313. BR Blue 26 012, 025, 026, 027, 029 (10/1/82 paired with a 37 on B/grey Pullman set), 034 (1978), 036 (1985 Skirl of the Pipes 6), 042 .... and possibly 26 014 (but for some forgotten reason I've put a question mark next to this one.) Dutch Eng Grey 26 025 & 026. BR Retro Green D5301 (26 001) & D5300 (26 007.) At least 2 have gotten as far as Mallaig ! 26 034 in '78 and 26 029 In '82. A slight cautionary note though, there is also a very nice photo on (I think) the main Flickr West Highland Line album of a Class 26 at the head of a freight train at Crianlarich Upper but I personally think that this is a very well done model that has been photoshopped in .... at first glance it looks very convincing, I'll try and find the link later for you to make up your own minds. Hope this is of interest to you, apologies if not. Best wishes, Ian. Well ..... I must eat my own words ! Having found the photo of the Class 26 at Crianlarich again I decided to look a little deeper into it's origins, ie the photographer's other works only to find pages and pages of genuine railway photographs, some do look slightly unnatural, particularly in the bright yellow colours so I wonder if they have been digitally enhanced .... I then found a second photo of the Class 26 taken from the other side which doesn't look to have been enhanced .... so my sincere apologies to Mr. Cutter. For your enjoyment :- Other photos found ... ....and from the other side All photos by Robert Cutter. No date, I'm afraid but judging by the starch wagon I would guess at between 1986 and 88. Possibly the photo that @meanach was thinking of ? Regards, Ian. Edited January 25, 2023 by 03060 Photos added. 5 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2023 Super reference for the 26 thanks 😁 Todays delivery was from Goodwood Scenics and its two printed fuel tanks for the civilian boats at Loch Nevis. There would be a larger depot inside the Naval base but that would probably be supplied by ship. https://www.goodwoodscenics.co.uk/product-page/oil-storage-tank-for-tmd-grey-weathered 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I am surprised class 26s weren't that common on the WHL. Anyway i found my pic of 27030 at Motherwell in 87 Withdrawn at this stage. Cheers Peter. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post PaulRhB Posted January 26, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) OTA’s are slow to load! I put in some polythene so I don’t glue it to the wagon then added some stiff wires into the second row to lock it all together so it lifts out as one. one layer at a time with a log dipped then laid to the outside so the glue doesn’t spill out too much. only two more to go . . . 🤪 Edited January 27, 2023 by PaulRhB 17 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post PaulRhB Posted January 27, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2023 That’s loads for three OTA’s and the two BDA’s done. I’ve got five OTA’s but to model inbound and outbound I decided three loads will be enough to start with. Supplies of steel for the Naval base and removable for returns as empties. 19 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 27, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2023 Oh and the Quattro got its wheels turned a bit along with another post office van I found 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywhizz Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 26/01/2023 at 16:58, PaulRhB said: OTA’s are slow to load! I put in some polythene so I don’t glue it to the wagon then added some stiff wires into the second row to lock it all together so it lifts out as one. one layer at a time with a log dipped then laid to the outside so the glue doesn’t spill out too much. only two more to go . . . 🤪 Hi. The loads look great. What “wood” are you using to create the load? Cheers. Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 28, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, billywhizz said: Hi. The loads look great. What “wood” are you using to create the load? Cheers. Bill. Hi Bill Goodwood scenics small logs, it’s a natural twig but no idea what variety. This just saves time finding enough and chopping it all up 😉 link below https://www.goodwoodscenics.co.uk/small-diameter-logs 2 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak experience Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) On 25/01/2023 at 13:10, PaulRhB said: I think the reference I got it from was to the red stripe appearing on wagons not locos, officially it came in in 1980 but took a while to spread. This site says 1980 for stock http://igg.org.uk/rail/6-livy/br/9-br-tops.htm I'm too led to believe that '80 was the first appearance of red stripe on freight stock. it followed on locos a few years later. Edited January 30, 2023 by peak experience 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I made logs cut from branches of various shrubs in my garden. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 30, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Alcanman said: I made logs cut from branches of various shrubs in my garden. My garden is 4ft long, one of the disadvantages of living in a second floor flat 😆 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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meanach Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 25/01/2023 at 14:53, 03060 said: Well ..... I must eat my own words ! Having found the photo of the Class 26 at Crianlarich again I decided to look a little deeper into it's origins, ie the photographer's other works only to find pages and pages of genuine railway photographs, some do look slightly unnatural, particularly in the bright yellow colours so I wonder if they have been digitally enhanced .... I then found a second photo of the Class 26 taken from the other side which doesn't look to have been enhanced .... so my sincere apologies to Mr. Cutter. For your enjoyment :- Other photos found ... ....and from the other side All photos by Robert Cutter. No date, I'm afraid but judging by the starch wagon I would guess at between 1986 and 88. Possibly the photo that @meanach was thinking of ? Regards, Ian. Hi . Yea indeed , that was the phot ! A driver I know at the Fort seemed to think it was 89. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 21, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Found some pics of one very similar in Fort William yard and a few out in the line so I deprived my local of it when I spotted it in the corner of the cabinet. I’m replacing the cast load / lump with a plastic one that’ll hug the decoder tightly. One from Ernie’s Rly Archive at Crianlarich in 85 https://flic.kr/p/XkR9XG Edited February 21, 2023 by PaulRhB 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 22, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2023 It came with a large cast lump load which I didn’t like. So after ripping out the DCC socket and hard wiring in the decoder I formed a replacement from lead sheet and covered it in tissue soaked in superglue. It ran appallingly which I discovered was the BEMF again so I turned that off as it started at about 20mph! 😆 Still rather noisy but it looks the part to me. 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted February 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: Still rather noisy but it looks the part to me. My guess is the real ones would be anyway! Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted February 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2023 My OWB runs poorly and noisily despite numerous 'servicing' efforts and extended running in. I suspect that with only 4 wheels the lack of weight is a contributory factor with poor connection to power. A stay alive would probably improve things but there is no obvious space to fit one.! Why it is so noisy I dont know but it is, a cheap motor is my best guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted February 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 30/01/2023 at 21:55, PaulRhB said: Fire up the Quattro! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 23, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, young37215 said: My OWB runs poorly and noisily despite numerous 'servicing' efforts and extended running in. I suspect that with only 4 wheels the lack of weight is a contributory factor with poor connection to power. A stay alive would probably improve things but there is no obvious space to fit one.! Why it is so noisy I dont know but it is, a cheap motor is my best guess. Yes I added the lead load to compensate for the cast weight being removed. I’m thinking of adding a stay alive but it seems to run ok. I ripped out the 8pin socket and hard wired the decoder in where it was so there’s room for a small stay alive if I need it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted February 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 21/02/2023 at 17:43, PaulRhB said: One from Ernie’s Rly Archive at Crianlarich in 85 https://flic.kr/p/XkR9XG Any idea what that second wagon is in this photo. I’m assuming that they are coupled and working together so it might be an idea to ‘bodge’ one and fit it with extra pickups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 23, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, BoD said: Any idea what that second wagon is in this photo. I’m assuming that they are coupled and working together so it might be an idea to ‘bodge’ one and fit it with extra pickups. No idea but you could make a close approximation. As I said mine runs ok and I’d rather add a stay alive than wired through pickups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 24, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Curiously since I taped the lead tarpaulin weight to the Plasser’s motor the drive is a lot quieter! Not sure why but it must damp the vibrations causing the noise. Now I’m looking at Gresley coaches to butcher 😉 Edited February 24, 2023 by PaulRhB 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted February 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 24/02/2023 at 01:05, PaulRhB said: Curiously since I taped the lead tarpaulin weight to the Plasser’s motor the drive is a lot quieter! Not sure why but it must damp the vibrations causing the noise. I weighed my OWB with and without and the factory fitted ballast load/weight which adds 80% to the models overall weight. I have tried adding 50g more weight but the effect was imperceptable both in terms of engine noise and running performance. At a guess your custom tarpaulin will weigh somewhere close to the factory fitted one. On the basis of my experience I am still tempted by the stay alive in the hope that it will make the model more useable, it is currently prone to stalling. All this waffle about the Bachmann OWB probably warrants a seperate thread with an appropriate title so that others in the future have half a chance of finding it as a reference point. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 25, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, young37215 said: All this waffle about the Bachmann OWB probably warrants a seperate thread with an appropriate title so that others in the future have half a chance of finding it as a reference point. Interesting as yours clearly has an older motor too. I agree a stay alive would be useful as a guarantee. If you start a separate thread pop a link I and I’ll add mine to it 👍 The lokpilot chip, I had to hand, filled that space 😉 I think I’d need to swap to a Zimo to fit the stay alive in too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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