Peter Eaton Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I reading above was about to ask if as the wagons became insulated, where they pre-heated at the depots thus remaining hot in transit . If the trend of ripening at home was not started at that time ? Otherwise why actually insulate them unless to stop the ripening in extreme hot weather. Thank. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwmtwrch Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Phil Bullock said: Wasn’t it because the banana boats were all refrigerated by this time and the bananas arrived green and were ripened in warehouses here? Hence transport temperature less critical Fyffes used refrigerated ships from 1901, effectively the start of the West Indies trade to the UK, for which cooling was essential because of the duration of the voyage - imports from the Canaries had started earlier without it. The temperature was about 12-13 degrees C, intended to suspend ripening without damaging the fruit, so once off the ship ripening would be started by heating the railway vans in transit [or possibly only before loading, for short journeys], except in summer when the ambient temperature would be enough. Ripening continued in the warehouse ripening rooms after arrival. Heavier insulation in the railway vans, with no heating, meant that more of the ripening process was concentrated in the ripening room environment; later still the importers switched to ethylene gas ripening in the ripening rooms as it was quicker and more controllable than heating. I don't think that the latter change was related to the change in insulation, but I'm open to correction. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) Robert de Niro sent me this to remind me to order some. He was talking Italian. Appealing to people of a certain age? P Edited December 4, 2023 by Mallard60022 4 2 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwmtwrch Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Peter Eaton said: reading above was about to ask if as the wagons became insulated, where they pre-heated at the depots thus remaining hot in transit . If the trend of ripening at home was not started at that time ? Otherwise why actually insulate them unless to stop the ripening in extreme hot weather. Apart from the very early days railway banana vans were all insulated; the mid-1950s change removed heating and substituted thicker insulation. Most had also been equipped with ventilators, but ventilation seems to have stopped before WW2 as no vans built after the war were so equipped. It was possible to heat the vans before loading as well as in transit [or for part of the transit only], it depended on what the importer wanted, which in turn depended on the time expected to be taken travelling from the docks and the ambient temperature; there was limited need for it in summer. Ripening green bananas at home was a concept introduced after railway involvement ceased, so far as I know; shops normally sold bananas for more or less immediate consumption in that era. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted December 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2023 On the way :) A reminder to anyone on partial, or pay later that the vans are in transit and due in a few weeks. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Via Cape of Good Hope ? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted December 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Via Cape of Good Hope ? Indeed, but still due in about 10-15 days time. 7 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 3 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3 On 20/12/2023 at 10:05, McC said: Indeed, but still due in about 10-15 days time. Not long now then if we keep them peeled.😉 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3 59 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Not long now then if we keep them peeled.😉 Stuff usually arrives in a bunch and sometimes that handy. P 1 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUCKOO LINE Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Seems a long 10-15 days , assume its the slow boat from China? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted January 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15 33 minutes ago, CUCKOO LINE said: Seems a long 10-15 days , assume its the slow boat from China? Unfortunately a few lads with missiles had other plans - though they are now nearly here 2 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, McC said: Unfortunately a few lads with missiles had other plans - though they are now nearly here There are reports today that a US registered cargo ship has been struck by a missile. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15 34 minutes ago, gwrrob said: There are reports today that a US registered cargo ship has been struck by a missile. With no significant damage and no injuries sustained.Ship continuing on course. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted January 15 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15 And thankfully not our one! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15 Though maybe the Cape is going to be the way to go now…..we seem to be approaching a reprise of the Vietnam predicament. It being,amongst other tricky situations,election year USA….with The Donald still a major player. Who’s blinking first ? Testosterone ready to fire. Good luck all. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23 On 15/01/2024 at 13:54, McC said: - though they are now nearly here What’s the state of play on these now @McC please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted January 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, gwrrob said: What’s the state of play on these now @McC please. Almost with us. Latest update was next week the boat will land. 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Did the Captain get lost and go round Cape Horn by mistake ? 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted January 24 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24 26 minutes ago, Suzy Sulzer said: i did notice there all sold out on ACCURASCALE web site .Thankfully i pre ordered some with Kernow. We've opened preorders again while they are sorted. https://www.accurascale.com/collections/sr-banana-van Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I get paid Feb 1st, this is perfect. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 23/01/2024 at 21:46, McC said: Almost with us. Latest update was next week the boat will land. 'next week' seems to have been and gone - are the Banana Vans on the same boat as the Mk2b coaches ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 7 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: 'next week' seems to have been and gone - are the Banana Vans on the same boat as the Mk2b coaches ? Hi @Wickham Green too, Apologies, any time I give out logistics info it comes back round and punches me in the back of the head. Correct, in the same container as the Mark 2b coaches, so docks this week, lands in the warehouse next week. Cheers! Fran 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 7 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7 Ignore any Adverts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Es8YJJZ6Q Philth 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUCKOO LINE Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Did the ship dock ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted February 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, CUCKOO LINE said: Did the ship dock ? And they are at the warehouse yes, final qc and we should start DPD'ing tomorrow! 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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