Michanglais Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 11 hours ago, MOB 2002 said: Fleischmann 2023 range has been revealed: https://www.fleischmann.de/documents/uploads/service/downloads/20230110_FLM_Neuheiten.pdf The Re6/6 in red is there, and the EWIV in the latest livery variation. Not a lot else though. Mark. Cheers for letting us know, Mark. Now I don't know whether to go for the Re 6/6 in green or red! Kind of figured the new livery EWIVs would be in there but I wonder if that means we'll never see the plain black/white cab car (call me greedy, I want both!). Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Arnold 2023 up now too. if you’ve got (or are planning to build) a layout that can feature lots of cross border expresses you might be in for a treat. Otherwise, don’t hold your breath. https://uk.arnoldmodel.com/new-2023 Mark Edited January 11, 2023 by MOB 2002 Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 The RABe 503 in 'München' branding has been up for some time on Modellbahnshop-Lippe, so that's not unexpected. I've been holding out for one in plain old standard SBB livery, but may go for this one. Other than that... nothing much! At least my wallet will be breathing a sigh of relief. Hornby UK have dubbed 2023 a "catch-up year" due to various issues. I wonder if we're seeing the same from other manufacturers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 15 hours ago, SBB1 said: The RABe 503 in 'München' branding has been up for some time on Modellbahnshop-Lippe, so that's not unexpected. I've been holding out for one in plain old standard SBB livery, but may go for this one. Other than that... nothing much! At least my wallet will be breathing a sigh of relief. Hornby UK have dubbed 2023 a "catch-up year" due to various issues. I wonder if we're seeing the same from other manufacturers? Hornby is spending all its money on French N (viz Arnold 2023 announcement...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michanglais Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Gordonwis said: Hornby is spending all its money on French N (viz Arnold 2023 announcement...) And with my interest in French N, alongside SBB N, this year promises to be somewhat expensive... ! (Not to mention their UK TT:120 - which has piqued my interest... but that's really a whole different topic!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Gordonwis said: Hornby is spending all its money on French N (viz Arnold 2023 announcement...) Boooooooooooooo 😜 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey74 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Would love to see N scale versions of the Leman Express trains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) There's been no official announcement as of yet, but guess what's appeared on Hobbytrain's product list for 2023... only an Re 4/4 IV! In three different liveries no less, each with a DCC sound version. No price listed. Maybe they do monitor these forums @MOB 2002 @cornish trains jez 😉 https://lemkecollection.de/product-category/modellbahn/page/3/?swoof=1&filter_marke-hersteller=hobbytrain&orderby=date&really_curr_tax=176-product_cat Other products of a Swiss persuasion include: - BPM 2nd class coaches in sets of 2 (4x different liveries, including green/white @Gordonwis!) - BLS BT and BDT control cars - And... whatever the hell this is... Edited January 20, 2023 by SBB1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Bluey74 said: Would love to see N scale versions of the Leman Express trains. Another thing I'd like to see, but will probably never happen: Liliput to revive and update their FLIRT tooling. I picked up one second-hand a little while ago and it's pretty good for a 10+ year old model. The opportunities for different variants/liveries are practically endless, given how common this platform is now across the world. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey74 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Would make a great box set and with Swiss and French N fans a great opportunity. Lilliput could update their existing tooling with new livery, just need the addition of SNCF Regiolis. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, SBB1 said: There's been no official announcement as of yet, but guess what's appeared on Hobbytrain's product list for 2023... only an Re 4/4 IV! In three different liveries no less, each with a DCC sound version. No price listed. Maybe they do monitor these forums @MOB 2002 @cornish trains jez 😉 https://lemkecollection.de/product-category/modellbahn/page/3/?swoof=1&filter_marke-hersteller=hobbytrain&orderby=date&really_curr_tax=176-product_cat If they do watch, that’s incredibly quick work! 🤣 Naturally I’m really rather pleased that I’ll be able to add a new Re4/4 IV to the fleet - tempted to see what I can do with the poor old Roco Re4/4 IV though. Suspect it’ll keep going for ever. Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michanglais Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, SBB1 said: There's been no official announcement as of yet, but guess what's appeared on Hobbytrain's product list for 2023... only an Re 4/4 IV! In three different liveries no less, each with a DCC sound version. No price listed. Maybe they do monitor these forums @MOB 2002 @cornish trains jez 😉 https://lemkecollection.de/product-category/modellbahn/page/3/?swoof=1&filter_marke-hersteller=hobbytrain&orderby=date&really_curr_tax=176-product_cat Other products of a Swiss persuasion include: - BPM 2nd class coaches in sets of 2 (4x different liveries, including green/white @Gordonwis!) - BLS BT and BDT control cars - And... whatever the hell this is... Nooooooo! I'll want them all! (the re 4/4 IVs), probably the Bpms, too! With that, all the Arnold N SNCF stuff and Hornby's UK TT, I'm going to be in financial ruin! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, MOB 2002 said: If they do watch, that’s incredibly quick work! 🤣 Naturally I’m really rather pleased that I’ll be able to add a new Re4/4 IV to the fleet - tempted to see what I can do with the poor old Roco Re4/4 IV though. Suspect it’ll keep going for ever. Mark You never know - if they could harness the energy of people like me moaning on forums, anything would be possible! It would be cool to see a side-by-side of the two Re 4/4 IV models, old and new. Always interesting to see how far the tech has come. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Michanglais said: Nooooooo! I'll want them all! (the re 4/4 IVs), probably the Bpms, too! With that, all the Arnold N SNCF stuff and Hornby's UK TT, I'm going to be in financial ruin! Ha! Luckily, as much as I like the Re 4/4 IV, it's not really my era so my wallet shouldn't be feeling the pain too much this year... in theory! I'm looking for a pair of green and white RICs, but a set of those BPMs will do the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Hobbytrain have certainly announced some great items. Better get saving now! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) On 20/01/2023 at 01:12, Bluey74 said: Would love to see N scale versions of the Leman Express trains. Annemasse before Christmas 2022: Edited January 22, 2023 by Gordonwis 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 20/01/2023 at 10:42, SBB1 said: - BPM 2nd class coaches in sets of 2 (4x different liveries, including green/white @Gordonwis!) I think H 25502 will be grey/grey not green /grey (as per their blurb). I think the graphic may be erroneous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Morning all, Latest photo on the Lemke Facebook page of the new Re4/4 iv in N. Looks really good so far with an abundance of separately fitted parts. Might have to order all 3 variants! Best regards, Jeremy Edited June 21, 2023 by cornish trains jez 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Would be nice to see the brake blocks in a slightly more realistic position - but I guess that looks a lot worse in unpainted state. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michanglais Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 21/06/2023 at 09:43, cornish trains jez said: Morning all, Latest photo on the Lemke Facebook page of the new Re4/4 iv in N. Looks really good so far with an abundance of separately fitted parts. Might have to order all 3 variants! Best regards, Jeremy Hope those couplers are in NEM pockets. A 'fill-in' for the front plough would be nice, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreux_1991 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 21/06/2023 at 08:43, cornish trains jez said: Morning all, Latest photo on the Lemke Facebook page of the new Re4/4 iv in N. Looks really good so far with an abundance of separately fitted parts. Might have to order all 3 variants! Best regards, Jeremy Clearly more modern tooling than the 1984 Roco model, but with 'interesting' design choices carried over from the Re4/4 II: - the window frames will be printed onto the body, not the glazing. This avoids light leakage around the frames when cab lighting is fitted but (ever since comparing the Kato RAe/RABe to the Hobbytrain original) I find the other way round more convincing. Fortunately (unlike the Re4/4 II) the wipers are separate etched parts, not moulded / printed onto window and body with a 'break' in the middle. - the cab front handrails are separately applied, but the cab door handrails are moulded on. Again I find the other way round more convincing. - the bogies are moulded in one piece, including the (speedometer?) cables which look a bit clumsy. Hopefully bogies, skirts and underframe details will be a nice shade of blue-grey. I currently have five Roco models - one in Bahn 2000 livery owned from new, and four in original liveries picked up more recently on Ebay. If I can find the time and skill (and possibly Hobbytrain spare parts) to replace the shiny black bogies, skirts and underframe details, I might yet keep some or all of these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted June 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Montreux_1991 said: Clearly more modern tooling than the 1984 Roco model, but with 'interesting' design choices carried over from the Re4/4 II: - the window frames will be printed onto the body, not the glazing. This avoids light leakage around the frames when cab lighting is fitted but (ever since comparing the Kato RAe/RABe to the Hobbytrain original) I find the other way round more convincing. Fortunately (unlike the Re4/4 II) the wipers are separate etched parts, not moulded / printed onto window and body with a 'break' in the middle. - the cab front handrails are separately applied, but the cab door handrails are moulded on. Again I find the other way round more convincing. - the bogies are moulded in one piece, including the (speedometer?) cables which look a bit clumsy. Hopefully bogies, skirts and underframe details will be a nice shade of blue-grey. I currently have five Roco models - one in Bahn 2000 livery owned from new, and four in original liveries picked up more recently on Ebay. If I can find the time and skill (and possibly Hobbytrain spare parts) to replace the shiny black bogies, skirts and underframe details, I might yet keep some or all of these. I thought there were only four of them in total? Have I missed something (as you have five?), or is the Bahn 2000 livery a repaint of one of the original four? I may be getting confused - is it just a model of the Bahn 2000 you’ve had from new. Just wondered, Keith. Edited June 23, 2023 by Keith Addenbrooke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreux_1991 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Keith Addenbrooke said: I thought there were only four of them in total? Have I missed something (as you have five?), or is the Bahn 2000 livery a repaint of one of the original four? I may be getting confused - is it just a model of the Bahn 2000 you’ve had from new. Just wondered, Keith. There were four locomotives. All were repainted in Bahn 2000 livery in the late 1980s. I've had one model from new (1991) when the originals were hauling EC trains through Montreux every day. In theory you could tell them apart by the coat of arms next to the driver's door but in practice they looked identical. More recently I've been tempted by the availability of matching hauled stock (SNCF Inox and FS TEE) to buy the four 'experimental' original liveries. Which are all very distinctive - in fact on the Roco models, which I assume are correct, two of the liveries are different each side! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted June 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2023 Thanks @Montreux_1991. i was aware the four locos originally had different liveries, but I hadn’t realised how early the Bahn 2000 livery was introduced. I didn’t know the locos were differently painted on each side. I believe some later carried advertising liveries too (when run by the SOB as class Re 446?). I don’t have one, but they are certainly interesting, Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 446 018 (SBB 10104) Luzern, July 2013 Edited June 23, 2023 by Gordonwis 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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