Ravenser Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 The Feb 2023 Railway Modeller carries a half page advertisement for Peco's forthcoming 7 plank wooden mineral wagon in TT:120, at the top of page 70a These have wooden solebars and are quoted as 9' wheelbase with spoked wheels and NEM355 pockets. They are initially available in GW grey, LNER grey, SR brown , and LMS grey, as well as BR grey with PO number All three greys appear much of a muchness in the advert pictures. I have a feeling GW grey was a rather darker shade. I think they are authentic for both the LNER , which owned some 7 plk minerals , and the LMS who inherited quite a few from the MR. I believe they aren't strictly authentic for the SR , which used 8 plank wagons that doubled as general merchandise opens , and I dunno about the GW , though I think the GWR invested heavily in the 20T steel "Felix Pole" minerals They are also shown in yellow PO liveries for Coleman's Mustard and Cadbury Bourneville . We are told "More Liveries Coming Soon!" They look quite nice setailed and authentic in the pictures. But wooden PO minerals is a huge subject and I don't pretend to be expert in any of the details. A few pages earlier another advert shows that Peco have added a platform shelter and a wooden gangers hut to the TT:120 building kit range. GW lower quadrant home and distant signals are also now shown in the advert 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ravenser said: The Feb 2023 Railway Modeller carries a half page advertisement for Peco's forthcoming 7 plank wooden mineral wagon in TT:120, at the top of page 70a These have wooden solebars and are quoted as 9' wheelbase with spoked wheels and NEM355 pockets. They are initially available in GW grey, LNER grey, SR brown , and LMS grey, as well as BR grey with PO number All three greys appear much of a muchness in the advert pictures. I have a feeling GW grey was a rather darker shade. I think they are authentic for both the LNER , which owned some 7 plk minerals , and the LMS who inherited quite a few from the MR. I believe they aren't strictly authentic for the SR , which used 8 plank wagons that doubled as general merchandise opens , and I dunno about the GW , though I think the GWR invested heavily in the 20T steel "Felix Pole" minerals They are also shown in yellow PO liveries for Coleman's Mustard and Cadbury Bourneville . We are told "More Liveries Coming Soon!" They look quite nice setailed and authentic in the pictures. But wooden PO minerals is a huge subject and I don't pretend to be expert in any of the details. A few pages earlier another advert shows that Peco have added a platform shelter and a wooden gangers hut to the TT:120 building kit range. GW lower quadrant home and distant signals are also now shown in the advert I'm certainly interested in getting some but it is frustrating that they don't seem to be on the Peco website 😕. My local model shop is interested too! Luke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porfuera Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, luke_stevens said: I'm certainly interested in getting some but it is frustrating that they don't seem to be on the Peco website 😕. My local model shop is interested too! Luke A bit like Antics, who for months have been advertising lots of Peco TT:120 stuff as "in development" (the medium radius points, platform shelter, platelayer's hut, signals, the 7-plank wagon although only one version at the moment), yet none of which is on Peco's website. At least it shows they're keen to stock it, I guess! It is at the bottom of this link: https://anticsonline.uk/Category/Peco-TT120-Range_N2454 Edited January 21, 2023 by Porfuera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, Porfuera said: At least it shows they're keen to stock it, I guess! Pretty much the same with Hatton. I'd be interested to know the price of the 7-plank 🤔 Luke 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I gather these 7 plank opens in BR days would be appropriate for sugar beets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted January 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2023 Interesting, as my digital copy only goes up to page 68 ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRTrainz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Do the wheels appear to be metal (as is pretty much standard in TT) or plastic (like Peco's N wagons)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, BRTrainz said: Do the wheels appear to be metal (as is pretty much standard in TT) or plastic (like Peco's N wagons)? Hi there. From what I’ve seen*, the advert in Railway Modeller says “metal tyred spoked wheels.” The photos seem to show metal wheels, but note there is a disclaimer noting that they are “pre-production samples shown with disc wheels.” No indication of price or availability yet but they look very good to me. Hope that helps, Keith. (* I don’t buy RM, but have seen a photo of the advert shared for information in a TT:120 Facebook group) Edited January 23, 2023 by Keith Addenbrooke 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRTrainz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Keith Addenbrooke said: Hi there. From what I’ve seen*, the advert in Railway Modeller says “metal tyred spoked wheels.” The photos seem to show metal wheels, but note there is a disclaimer noting that they are “pre-production samples shown with disc wheels.” No indication of price or availability yet but they look very good to me. Hope that helps, Keith. (* I don’t buy RM, but have seen a photo of the advert shared for information in a TT:120 Facebook group) Thanks. Now to wait for Hattons to put them up for pre-order.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 21/01/2023 at 17:12, britishcolumbian said: I gather these 7 plank opens in BR days would be appropriate for sugar beets? Wagons of this general type amongst others. A bit of info here: 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lewis Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Apparently the first liveries for these wagons will be released later this month. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 On 07/09/2023 at 09:49, J-Lewis said: Apparently the first liveries for these wagons will be released later this month. Given Peco's general glacial speeds that is this month this year?.... Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted September 15, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2023 There's a big advert for these in the October RM, it states they will be released over the next few months. So maybe by the end of this year? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lewis Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 On 14/09/2023 at 08:38, Les1952 said: Given Peco's general glacial speeds that is this month this year?.... Les Well Peco customer service said it would be this month so… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr248 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Not September 2023. Seems that Peco are using a different calendar to us Earthlings? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lewis Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Looks that way. I guess they will be with us soon. According to Peco customer service they were being released late September. Who knows? Maybe they decided to wait and cash in on the Hornby anniversary publicity on the 10th October? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lewis Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 According to Peco customer service these wagons have now been sent out to retailers. I guess we will have them soon? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osbornsmodels Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 not before the end of this week at the earliest is my info. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 My local model shop enquired on Monday and reported back to me- they are at Peco's warehouse but can't be shipped out until the price has been decided. As a result the shop can't put in my pre-order. Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted October 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Les1952 said: My local model shop enquired on Monday and reported back to me- they are at Peco's warehouse but can't be shipped out until the price has been decided. As a result the shop can't put in my pre-order. Les I imagine something like a papal conclave in deepest Devon. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osbornsmodels Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 update from Peco first 8 liveries ready to ship from Beer so in the shops from Friday I guess 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2023 Was it too much to hope that Peco might choose PO liveries actually worn by RCH 1923 specification wagons? And why does the end door lack its middle hinge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted October 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2023 Even though I was born 7 years after decimalisation, it's not lost on me that these are being priced at £17.06...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Geep7 said: Even though I was born 7 years after decimalisation, it's not lost on me that these are being priced at £17.06...... Not sure I understand your comment but just received an email from Hattons confirming eight versions at £17.06........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted October 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jeff Smith said: Not sure I understand your comment but just received an email from Hattons confirming eight versions at £17.06........ Possibly my imagination, but something in my mind thinks that the original TT Peco wagon kits were 17/6 in pre-decimalisation money.... but it's probably just my mind playing tricks.... just seems an oddly specific price point though to not be a coincidence if I am remembering rightly.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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