doilum Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Currently building an LNER Q6. These all had non self trimming tenders. What I cannot find is a simple explanation or illustration of a self trimming type. Can anyone educate me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted October 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) I wondered this a while back, the conclusion I came to is it means the coal bunker has sloped sides so as you take the coal from the front, the remainder works its way down there. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can either confirm this or explain it better! Edited October 29, 2023 by Bucoops 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Yes. Non trimming tenders had flat tanks. Trimming ones had a slope like this GWR one. https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/27843317975/in/album-72157669537628532/ Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted October 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Yes. Non trimming tenders had flat tanks. Trimming ones had a slope like this GWR one. https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/27843317975/in/album-72157669537628532/ Jason Thank you :) - I will write that down "Got something right". The missus will be most upset. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Does 'self trimming' not imply that the hopper is FULLY slope-sided like a Stanier, Bulleid or B.R. standard tender and has no flat areas where the fireman has to venture to get the last dregs ??!? I wouldn't call this "self trimming" ; - DS70183 ; Barry Scrapyard, 28/9/80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 The Q6 tender had a coal space about four feet wide between the vertical sides of the water tanks. The floor sloped at the rear upto the tender top. Looking at the illustrations in Yeadons Register at least 50% of the coal was carried on the top deck between the coal rails. This must have required the fireman to perform considerable amounts of raking coal back into the coal space. I guess this task was referred to as "trimming". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 'Trimming' was usually done after taking on coal to level the top and ensure it wasn't foul of the loading gauge or likely to fall over the sides. 'Pulling forward' would be carried out during the journey, usually on the move, and was also sometimes necessary on so-called self-trimming tenders. It was necessary to know where the overbridges were when doing this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted October 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2023 Self trimming tender - you want the coal you get it yourself. Its amazing how coal can make verhical surfaces even when being bounced around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke West Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Blandford1969 said: Self trimming tender - you want the coal you get it yourself. Its amazing how coal can make verhical surfaces even when being bounced around Austerity 2-8-0 apparentley were good at pulling the coal forward 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 hours ago, Stoke West said: Austerity 2-8-0 apparentley were good at pulling the coal forward Indeed, as far forward as the firebox backplate! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted October 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Stoke West said: Austerity 2-8-0 apparentley were good at pulling the coal forward …. and anything else, including loose dentures! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted October 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 21:00, Stoke West said: Austerity 2-8-0 apparentley were good at pulling the coal forward There is a story of Gordon on its way to Shildon in 75. It was running tender first, to demonstrate how to get the coal forwards the driver accelerated the loco up to about 50 and then shut off. As anyone who has been on a Dub dee will know the intermideiate buffers are pointless. The tender crashed into the loco, bounced off and was repeated countless times with the coal shooting forwards onto the footplate, Those tenders rank as about the worst for getting coal down unless you get in and dig it forwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Worst ? ............. sounds pretty effective to me ! 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Worst ? ............. sounds pretty effective to me ! 😊 Hmm? Don't try it with a 600 ton train behind you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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