woodenhead Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 https://www.keymodelworld.com/modelworldlive So I was skeptical how they were going to make Pete's layout even bigger, well here is his introduction and this will be at Model World Live in 2024 - and it's all scenic extension as they've got all the fiddleyard they need - 240 feet and then one more for Chester as the last great addition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted January 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21 Just a shame it's the same weekend as the garden railway show, just down the road.. https://www.nationalgardenrailwayshow.org.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 And SWAG. I know which I'd much prefer to attend. Hint: means I head down the M4/5 not M40/42... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) I am really surprised that, in the current climate, more people haven't posted about the new KEYMODELWORLD LIVE event at the NEC. Here is a link to some of the layouts attending ............. https://www.keymodelworld.com/model-world-live/layouts I hope that this is seen as a big positive after recent events :-) Edited January 29 by TEAMYAKIMA 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2 Exhibitors having to pay for accommodation? Why would anyone take a layout to this (which is a commercial event) unless they can't run their layout at home.. By now I would have expected a full list of attendees to have been posted. The move to Hall 12 is intriguing. Is the problems faced by trying to run events at the NEC kicking in? Baz 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2 Having never attended Warley because it was always busy do people expect this to be the same? I think my favorite exhibition is donny , normally go Saturday afternoon and is fairly quiet later so layouts can be viewed nicely 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 7 hours ago, Barry O said: Exhibitors having to pay for accommodation? Why would anyone take a layout to this (which is a commercial event) unless they can't run their layout at home.. Because they live close enough to not need it? I'm amused by comments about commercial shows, when some exhibitors at club events try to claw back every possible penny as expenses, when they should just try to enjoy the weekend and appreciate that they have the chance to show or explain their work and skills to others... 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan williams Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 298. So you believe someone should exhibit their layout at a commercial show, hopefully so they can make money and you will be out of pocket, give up 2 or 3 days of your life. Do you still believe the earth is flat ? 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, 298 said: Because they live close enough to not need it? I'm amused by comments about commercial shows, when some exhibitors at club events try to claw back every possible penny as expenses, when they should just try to enjoy the weekend and appreciate that they have the chance to show or explain their work and skills to others... I would suggest that inviting layouts that only 'live' close by the locations of exhibitions would limit the variety of layouts being shown. If this was the case exhibitions would soon become very stale events. I am not sure if you, 298, have ever exhibited a layout, or perhaps demonstrated your skills at a show. If you have you will know the amount of effort [and even exhaustion] required of the team. If you haven't exhibited or demonstrated I suggest you give it a go. And from my long experience of exhibiting, the days when even modest profits might bemade by exhibitors have long gone. Exhibition managers are a bit too savvy these days. Visitors come to see layouts, and layouts should be the star of the show. [Alisdair] 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2 42 minutes ago, ardbealach said: I am not sure if you, 298, have ever exhibited a layout, or perhaps demonstrated your skills at a show. If you have you will know the amount of effort [and even exhaustion] required of the team. If you haven't exhibited or demonstrated I suggest you give it a go. [Alisdair] He has. He’s very good, and his layouts have appeared in several magazines. I’m surprised with your long experience of exhibiting you weren’t aware of that. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan williams Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 In WW2 it took a very long time to break the Enigma Code, perhaps you can help the rest of us with the Code 298 and while you are at it PMP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2 10 hours ago, Barry O said: Exhibitors having to pay for accommodation? Why would anyone take a layout to this (which is a commercial event) unless they can't run their layout at home.. By now I would have expected a full list of attendees to have been posted. The move to Hall 12 is intriguing. Is the problems faced by trying to run events at the NEC kicking in? Baz Exhibitors don’t have to pay for their accommodation, why are you making things up? Key are providing an allowance, that was explained in the other thread which you’ve read, because you commented on it befor posting here 🙄 Why wouldn’t someone want to take their layout to this show? Why do Key have to announce every attending exhibit at once? Why is a move to a different hall a problem? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, stan williams said: In WW2 it took a very long time to break the Enigma Code, perhaps you can help the rest of us with the Code 298 and while you are at it PMP. Do your own research, I’m not getting paid for it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Thank you Stan for your reply (Alisdair) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted February 2 Moderators Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, ardbealach said: I am not sure if you, 298, have ever exhibited a layout You may well have seen the lovely Cuban scene back at Stafford https://www.staffordrailwaycircle.org.uk/exhibbition-2023/central-alonzo/ 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Thank you Andy. Indeed I chatted with the gentleman at Stafford last year. (Alisdair) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) On 02/02/2024 at 18:45, stan williams said: In WW2 it took a very long time to break the Enigma Code, perhaps you can help the rest of us with the Code 298 and while you are at it PMP. Sorry, there was a queue at the chippy. On 02/02/2024 at 17:31, stan williams said: 298. So you believe someone should exhibit their layout at a commercial show, hopefully so they can make money and you will be out of pocket, give up 2 or 3 days of your life. Do you still believe the earth is flat ? On the rare occasions that the planets align and I actually get the time to disappear off for a weekend to exhibit, I really don't care whether it is a commercial show or not. If I wanted to be really churlish I could turn down an invitation because I don't like the layouts that the host club builds, but that would be ridiculous. But what I also tend to do is raid the back of the cupboard for stuff to sell on eBay or at the show, and that can pay for a lot. On 02/02/2024 at 17:48, ardbealach said: I would suggest that inviting layouts that only 'live' close by the locations of exhibitions would limit the variety of layouts being shown. If this was the case exhibitions would soon become very stale events. [Alisdair] My point was there is quite a large catchment area around the NEC (hence Warley sending three layouts), if your hotel is half an hour away then driving for an hour back to your own bed isn't so bad. It might be more of a problem for a magazine if they only want layouts they've featured but when I helped to run a specialist show nearby we managed to get a dozen different and worthy layouts every year and only a couple required accomodation. One demonstrator even understood the assignment and camped in someone's garden! Anyway, back to the show... Edited February 4 by 298 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted February 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, PMP said: Exhibitors don’t have to pay for their accommodation, why are you making things up? Key are providing an allowance, that was explained in the other thread which you’ve read, because you commented on it befor posting here 🙄 Why wouldn’t someone want to take their layout to this show? Why do Key have to announce every attending exhibit at once? Why is a move to a different hall a problem? If you can find decent accommodation at the figures quoted then great.... otherwise the exh8bitors will have to pay for accommodation.. If its costing money to take a layout to a show (especially at the NEC) layout owners may not be particularly keen to exhibit.. especially club layouts.. money is tight.. Its February.. the show is in April.. announcements of layouts are few.. Hall 12 is b8gger than the original Hall. Bigger means more cost to hire it, although fitting Pete Watermans layout in will be easier to meet the NEC gangway/emergency routing requirements. This lack of space at GETS has been n9ted in the past.. @PMP Obviously you are well versed in how to set up a very large exhition and understand how difficult it can be to put on shows at the NEC. Baz 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOgaugeJaf Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Wondering if the show will be on par with Warley? Hall 12 looks half the size of 5 but I know Warley did not use the full footprint. Thoughts? It’s 270 miles each way for me. Happy if it’s similar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 26 minutes ago, OOgaugeJaf said: Wondering if the show will be on par with Warley? Hall 12 looks half the size of 5 but I know Warley did not use the full footprint. Thoughts? It’s 270 miles each way for me. Happy if it’s similar 35 layouts versus 90 for Warley and probably less retail as well. But you do get Pete Waterman's layout which will take up a lot of real estate, so who knows how many layouts next year maybe 50. I would imagine it could be like a Stafford or Model Rail Scotland going forward once you remove the Pete Waterman element. It will be big but not quite as big as Warley, I think the most challenging part will be getting exhibitors if the chosen method of paying an allowance rather than booking the hotels proves difficult for the exhibitors, it's rather shifting responsibility. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andrew Biro Posted February 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4 Must say I don't it being smaller than Warley (or more diverse) as I found Warley just too big to get around and see things properly. i am looking forward to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) Just to say that I have just booked my team's hotel (23 minutes by road from the NEC) and it's the same one we used when we went to the Warley show - so we know where the good pubs are! I am very positive about this show - there will be the traditional model railway audience, but there will also be other 'interested parties' there too. My motto is "educate and entertain" and so, I am very much looking forward to educating the serious railway modellers who want to know more about my very unusual choice of subject (China in 2001) and entertaining the 'others' who just want to be entertained. Edited February 9 by TEAMYAKIMA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 9 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9 On 04/02/2024 at 22:52, OOgaugeJaf said: Wondering if the show will be on par with Warley? Hall 12 looks half the size of 5 but I know Warley did not use the full footprint. Thoughts? It’s 270 miles each way for me. Happy if it’s similar Hall 5 = 24,870m2 Hall 12 = 10,195m2 Hall sizes available on the NEC website, Hall 5 is the biggest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 No comments for over two months? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_M Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I'm looking forward to bringing the TrainTrax UK stand. This will be one of the biggest shows we've ever done - not sure how much stock to bring! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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