Peterborough North

[Clive Mortimore]

But they are like panniers Clive. There are supposed to be lots of different types, bu they all look the same.

Now swearing at me won't help.

 

You are right they do look the same, until you study them. Some are longer than others, some have three windies at the front and some only two and then there are all sorts of combinations of windows down the side. That is before you start to sus out the body profile, I wrote an article for DEMUs Update magazine about DMU profiles that's how interesting/boring they are. 

 

Now for Peterborough North in your time frame a Derby yellow diamond lightweight, a Cravens set and a Derby long underframe heavy weight should do you. The lightweight and Cravens are already on the roster. I know you had a problem with the Silver Fox class 114, I have bodged one from Hornby 110s but it is a bodge. I also have a MTK one, not the easiest build, in fact I haven't finished it. I am not sure if the 114 is on the list of potential re-introductions by DC kits, it might be worth PMing Charlie Petty to find out. You could enquire if it is something Worsley Works could etch? Etched sides on a Lima class 117 would make a reasonable unit.

[Mallard60022]

 This is the bit that's got me beaten for the time being Andy. I can live with the thought of unloading three or even four cassettes to form one train, but on top of that to then individually apply several detachable boards sems to be taking a good thing past its sensible limits. I've not given up on it, but living without them it will be, at least short term.

 

If you could tolerate the boards, with a sort of pale, generic sort of lettering but not actually saying anything, when viewed from operation distances, the coaches would have boards (but not actually saying anything in reality) and maybe look more authentic? When setting up a few coaches for special photo's then maybe add the correct boards. Using strips of plasticard would mean they were flexible and shouldn't crease like card ones. There will be train formations that never get changed so they could have genuine destination boards if it works for that train unless, of course, it (the train) goes both up and down!

Apiss  Artist

Edited January 2, 2019 by Mallard60022

[Oldddudders]

But they are like panniers Clive. There are supposed to be lots of different types, bu they all look the same.

You mean like LNER pacifics, other than A4s?

[Martin S-C]

But they are like panniers Clive. There are supposed to be lots of different types, bu they all look the same.

What? There's different types of pannier? You learn something new every day

[great northern]

You mean like LNER pacifics, other than A4s?

Do I detect stirrings of tribal loyalties?

[great northern]

Now swearing at me won't help.

 

You are right they do look the same, until you study them. Some are longer than others, some have three windies at the front and some only two and then there are all sorts of combinations of windows down the side. That is before you start to sus out the body profile, I wrote an article for DEMUs Update magazine about DMU profiles that's how interesting/boring they are. 

 

Now for Peterborough North in your time frame a Derby yellow diamond lightweight, a Cravens set and a Derby long underframe heavy weight should do you. The lightweight and Cravens are already on the roster. I know you had a problem with the Silver Fox class 114, I have bodged one from Hornby 110s but it is a bodge. I also have a MTK one, not the easiest build, in fact I haven't finished it. I am not sure if the 114 is on the list of potential re-introductions by DC kits, it might be worth PMing Charlie Petty to find out. You could enquire if it is something Worsley Works could etch? Etched sides on a Lima class 117 would make a reasonable unit.

Tim is on the case so far as the Derby heavyweight is concerned, Clive. It's one he rather fancies doing, and he explained how to me, but as usual I didn't fully understand. It will be up to his usual standards, which is all that matters.

[bigwordsmith]

You mean like LNER pacifics, other than A4s?

 

 

...nothing wrong with a bit of standardisation!

 

When did you decide to emigrate to La Belle France?

[Oldddudders]

...nothing wrong with a bit of standardisation!

 

When did you decide to emigrate to La Belle France?

Been here since 2004.

[great northern]

OK, so off I went to run trains, and the first one on the list was the 1000 Up Leeds. Oh good, I thought, an opportunity to try out the new cassettes. I decided to time the process. First cassette was rear three coaches, second one two more, and then a bit of hand shunting got the catering cars in place. All of that took about a minute. Then I needed to put in a Gresley FO. Could I find it? Could I ********. I looked everywhere, in each drawer and even in some cassettes. This took about fifteen minutes and caused some uttering of profanities. Then I looked straight in front of me, and there it was in road 2. On it went, followed by the contents of one more cassette. Knock off the fifteen wasted minutes, and the whole thing was assembled in under three, including positioning the engine. Now I have, for the first time, the correct eleven car formation. I find that to be worth the spending of three minutes of my life on achieving it. Photos will follow later of its progress round round the layout, but for now I'll concentrate on the storage side of things. Here is the present state of play.

Road 1 empty as always, West Riding catering in 2, and Tyneside in 3. Road 4 is empty, and may remain so, as it gives flexibility in moving things round to avoid blocking manoeuvres. Road 5 now houses the loaded coal, which may feel a little disorientated as it has always lived in road 3. It will get over it. It has also grown in length, as it now has more room.

Class C goods in 6, and the Yorkshire Pullman in 7. 8 is empty, and again may remain so, as it is the straightest road should I wish to let things go round and round, and even to work up some speed while doing so. Talisman and West Riding stay in 9.

To the Down side now. 10 empty as always, 11 houses the fish, and 12 another Class C. Nothing yet in 13, but that one does need to be filled, so I can have a nice time deciding what goes in there. Any suggestions? 14 still has coal empties.

15 has parcels, which are the weakest of all my trains, so adding more and better stock to that will be a priority.  16 still has the Flying Scotsman, and 17 and 18 also remain as they were. Even though they house trains that will only move twice in the sequence, there seems little point in putting them into cassettes just for the sake of it, and I haven't got enough left anyway.

 

[Mallard60022]

15 has parcels, which are the weakest of all my trains, so adding more and better stock to that will be a priority.  

 

More SR vans G. Especially Bogie ones. Also a few more LMS types?

Phil

[Sankey Scenics]

Hi

 

i have used Sankey Scenes for MPD signage for Haymarket.

 

They have a great selection and the signs are very detailed and extremely good quality.

 

Regards

 

David 

Many thanks for your kind comments - greatly appreciated!

 

Allan

Sankey Scenics

[great northern]

15 has parcels, which are the weakest of all my trains, so adding more and better stock to that will be a priority.  

 

More SR vans G. Especially Bogie ones. Also a few more LMS types?

Phil

Maybe so, Phil, but there are opportunities to have something different aren't there? Steve did say in an unguarded moment that he enjoys building kits of NPCS, and that nice Mr Wealleans knows a lot about it, so between the two of them something could be found.

[great northern]

Many thanks for your kind comments - greatly appreciated!

 

Allan

Sankey Scenics

I already have your excellent station signs, Allan, so some destination boards seem like a good idea as well.

[31A]

Maybe so, Phil, but there are opportunities to have something different aren't there? Steve did say in an unguarded moment that he enjoys building kits of NPCS, and that nice Mr Wealleans knows a lot about it, so between the two of them something could be found.

 

 

D&S Models ex GNR bogie milk brake appears in a parcels train in one of your books!

[great northern]

More catering stock tonight, this time the Tyneside cars. Nearly all of these formations have a triplet set, just as nearly all the West Riding ones don't. As usual though, things aren't that simple. There is one Tyneside set which has RF/RSP, and one West Riding one with a triplet. I can now do both of those correctly, of course. We start with a triplet. All of them were accompanied by a FK, so there is one included.

 

A Kirk triplet, no less. I've had this for many years, and apart from the height issue I haven't got round to rectifying it isn't at all bad - nicely built and painted.

Thanks to my kind and generous friend Phil, I also have a Comet set, and now it has been moved from its rather inaccessible storage road I have no excuse at all to put off painting the roofs any longer. This has got me thinking. Do I really need two triplets? I have another in the Northumbrian as well, but that is a one off, and must remain there. TW told me recently that a Kirk kit, unmade, went for £140 on E Bay not long ago, which makes me wonder what a fully completed one built and painted by someone who knew what he was doing might make.

Then there is the lovely buffet car converted from a GN third that Steve did for me a while back. That also will now be available to run in more than just one fixed set. Finally, as it will also be run with catering cars, another look at the Willets/Studley built and painted FK, to remind us what Gresleys should really look like.

 

[great northern]

Life returns to normal, thank goodness, and so it is time for golf. There is just time though to get our first look at Quicksilver, running through with the 1000 Leeds.

[Mallard60022]

Good moaning G. By more SR vans I was just passing on some info I read over on TW's thread about the large number of said vehcles that ran on the ER, and IIRC you do not have some of the really weird looking ones such as the Ratio Bogie Van B I think it is, for example. (Not in blue obviously).

Edited January 3, 2019 by Mallard60022

[St Enodoc]

Good moaning G. By more SR vans I was just passing on some info I read over on TW's thread about the large number of said vehcles that ran on the ER, and IIRC you do not have some of the really weird looking ones such as the Ratio Bogie Van B I think it is, for example. (Not in blue obviously).

 

A great kit for its time but a bit of a faff to put together. I'd go for the Hornby one now (in fact I have - I've got one Ratio and two Hornby).

 

The old Tri-ang GUV scrubs up nicely with the Roxey Mouldings detailing kit too.

[Mallard60022]

A great kit for its time but a bit of a faff to put together. I'd go for the Hornby one now (in fact I have - I've got one Ratio and two Hornby).

 

 

The old Tri-ang GUV scrubs up nicely wit the Roxey Mouldings detailing kit too.

 

Yes, a faff, but a good excuse to sniff the Solvent! I'd forgotten the Hornby version and that is excellent of course; forget the ratio one G.

P

[cctransuk]

 

The old Tri-ang GUV scrubs up nicely with the Roxey Mouldings detailing kit too.

 

 I have one, but I seem to recall that it has raised lines where there should be plank grooves; (an early incarnation of 'Design Clever')?

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[great northern]

Good moaning G. By more SR vans I was just passing on some info I read over on TW's thread about the large number of said vehcles that ran on the ER, and IIRC you do not have some of the really weird looking ones such as the Ratio Bogie Van B I think it is, for example. (Not in blue obviously).

I think I do have one Phil. I'll look for it tomorrow.

[great northern]

A close up of Quicksilver passing by North box.

and as for the first time ever on PN the 1000 Up has the correct stock, here it is.

[great northern]

A mid day East to Leicester local appoaches.

and stands at Platform 6 waiting for the off.

[great northern]

Good moaning G. By more SR vans I was just passing on some info I read over on TW's thread about the large number of said vehcles that ran on the ER, and IIRC you do not have some of the really weird looking ones such as the Ratio Bogie Van B I think it is, for example. (Not in blue obviously).

this one, Phil?

[FarrMan]

A mid day East to Leicester local appoaches.

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and stands at Platform 6 waiting for the off.

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What livery is that first coach in? I am not recognizing it.

 

Lloyd