Peterborough North

[great northern]

After the WD had gone through, another of our Ivatt 4s arrived with a local from Wisbech. The chap on the bridge decided, yet again, to use the zoom feature on his camera. Why he did that, considering all previous experiences, is hard to understand. He then had second thoughts, and took another conventional image. For some reason, you get to see both.

 

 

 

 

[Oldddudders]

Zoom lenses on still cameras were as rare as hens’ teeth in 1958. They weren’t common a decade later. No wonder he takes such good pics. 

[31A]

I quite like the zoomed one, it gives a different perspective on the south end of the station.

[great northern]

It goes like this. Select driver, and address ball. "Right you basta#d, go straight."  Ball goes straight, every time, and  a long way. But then, select putter, try to hit ball five feet and straight, no chance. Repeat many times, and become a bit cross.

 

It is time for the 5.25 slow to KX, which in summer of 58 was often used for crew training on a new fangled diesel thingy. 'Tis so today.

 

 

 

It is also time for the 4.05 Leeds and York, the preserve of the W1, and here it comes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

One photo for now, as I need to check some info before posting more. The W1 has moved a bit further, so we now get both locos in the same shot.

 

 

[great northern]

The 4.05pm off KX was a combined Leeds, Bradford and York train. It is another that I can now put together from cassettes and loose stock, the formation being:-  BSO CK (Leeds), SK SK CK BSO (Bradford), and BCK TSO SK RB FK BSK (York). All except the RB are specified as MK1s. Here it is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[thegreenhowards]

7 hours ago, great northern said:

The 4.05pm off KX was a combined Leeds, Bradford and York train. It is another that I can now put together from cassettes and loose stock, the formation being:-  BSO CK (Leeds), SK SK CK BSO (Bradford), and BCK TSO SK RB FK BSK (York). All except the RB are specified as MK1s. Here it is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gilbert,

 

The cassettes are obviously working - it’s good to see the correct formation. Was it a standard Gresley RB or one of the special ones?

 

Also, unless my eyes are deceiving me, you have a CK in your formation where there should be a BCK (ar the head of the York portion).

 

regards

 

Andy

[great northern]

Still concentrating on 60700 tonight, with a couple of views at the north end.

 

 

 

 

The next one just kept being cropped more amd more as I found things I didn't fancy shopping, so we finish up with this.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

5 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

The cassettes are obviously working - it’s good to see the correct formation. Was it a standard Gresley RB or one of the special ones?

 

Also, unless my eyes are deceiving me, you have a CK in your formation where there should be a BCK (ar the head of the York portion).

 

regards

 

Andy

 It was my eyes which were deceiving me Andy. As to the buffet car, I confess that I really like this one, and it is far better than the alternative 'orrible Hornby.

[great northern]

Plenty I could be doing today, but will I, that is the question?  Time will tell. 

 

At PN, another WD, 90730 this time, is starting the journey to Ferme Park.

 

 

 

While a rather clean local V2 heads north with a Clarence yard to Niddrie Class C.

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

Yes, I did plenty, including running of trains, and walking in temperatures more like May than February.

 

60867 is one of my oldest V2s, though still running quite well, and we get another look at it only slightly further on its way.

 

 

 

Then we have a diesel multiple unit approaching the end of its journey from Skegness. The driver is getting better at setting his desination, but still hasn't quite go the hang of it.

 

 

[great northern]

Looks like another lovely day, so a break from railway matters will occur. Plenty of photos in the store though, so we'll start with another view of the District Engineer's area. This happened by chance, as I was preparing for something else but saw this through the viewfinder when I just put the camera down temporarily. The shot I really wanted didn't work at all!

 

 

 

A local 4F then slipped in with the 5.32 East to Leicester, and we get a panoramic view as it slows for the stop.

 

 

 

I really don't get the signalling here. We only have a distant, which should surely be at danger as the train is stopping, so presumably its arrival has been controlled from further back. I can't see where though. Any ideas?

[Clive Mortimore]

The signals show the driver the state of the line. If he is to stop in the block section the signals can (and very often do) show line ahead clear. It is the working time table that tells him to stop at the station.

 

The distant signal as in the photo tells the driver to slow down and be prepared to stop as one of the stop signals in that block section has not been cleared and the line ahead is not safe to proceed on to. It does not tell him to stop at the station.

[jazzer]

8 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

The signals show the driver the state of the line. If he is to stop in the block section the signals can (and very often do) show line ahead clear. It is the working time table that tells him to stop at the station.

 

The distant signal as in the photo tells the driver to slow down and be prepared to stop as one of the stop signals in that block section has not been cleared and the line ahead is not safe to proceed on to. It does not tell him to stop at the station.

That’s correct. If we pick up on Gilbert’s comment and use correct railway terminology a distant signal is never at danger but either at “ caution “ or “off” . Home signals are at either “danger” or “off”.

 

Lets not get into the intricacies of multiple aspect colour light signals though. You know where you are with the good old semaphores ! 

 

Fantastic pictures though, as always.

[great northern]

Well, I've learned a bit more today. Thanks chaps. I really should do some more research on signalling.

 

Soon after the 4F arrived, a Welwyn - Colwick Class D came into view. 34A doesn't seem to have taken to its three Standard 5s, and got rid of them to Neasden as soon as it could, but 73158 seems to be a fixture on this train at the moment.

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile, the chap on the bridge is messing about with the zoom function which he shouldn't have again.

 

 

[CUTLER2579]

I think all of the Standard Class 5's were at Neasden for a year prior to going to the Cross. Certainly most did.

In fact they shuttled back and forth forth from Neasden to lots of places  for the first 5 years of their short lives.

Kings Cross fitters were even less happy when Class 5   44911 arrived  @ 34A from 6A Chester on 18/02/19056. to begin a 15 month sabbatical .  This was in connection with AWS.

Kings Cross fitters were not familiar with the Stanier Black Five or Standard Class 5's and so  a couple of Neasden fitters spent 2.or 3 days a week at Neasden and the other half of the week at Kings Cross. It was very popular with the Neasden guys as they got travelling time going from Neasden to Kings cross and for going back home. Plus Saturday working  (Overtime at 1.5  times the normal rate) to catch up  on their own work at Neasden.      All in all a "Nice little Earner"

There kids liked it as well as they got more treats (sweets) .

[great northern]

All this wall to wall sunshine can have its disadvantages, and is showing them at present when it comes to photography. Add in a couple of slight gaps in the blinds, and shafts of light appear where none should be, as in the image below.

 

 

 

Pointing the camera away from the light does help somewhat, and gives us this rather crowded scene.

 

 

[JamieR4489]

Has 73158's front end been involved in a collision? 

 

Lovely photos by the way

Edited February 27, 2019 by JamieR4489

[Market65]

I too  was wondering about that but thought discretion was the better part of valour. Something has clearly happened though with that buffer having gone AWOL.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Oldddudders]

Poor Gilbert. You learn who your friends are.

[great northern]

7 minutes ago, Market65 said:

I too  was wondering about that but thought discretion was the better part of valour. Something has clearly happened though with that buffer having gone AWOL.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

How do I fail to notice these things?  I think I know where it is though.

[Martin S-C]

Up the rear end of someone's brake van?

[Clive Mortimore]

28 minutes ago, great northern said:

How do I fail to notice these things?  I think I know where it is though.

Gilbert, it does have lamps displaying the right headcode and no tension lock coupling what more do people want?

[great northern]

2 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Gilbert, it does have lamps displaying the right headcode and no tension lock coupling what more do people want?

Very kind of you Clive, but I should have seen it. I remember that I did have to change the lamps, so with my attention on the front of the loco, how could I fail to see a missing buffer?

[great northern]

With some trepidation, I now intend to show some more images. We start with the shortest train of the day, the 4.45 from Grantham, an easy task for a J6.

 

 

 

This had to be cropped right to the back of the last coach, as the sun had insinuated its way through the blinds again. My self congratulation at having saved the picture faded somewhat when I elnarged the image, and saw the stripe on the water tower. The J6 did not linger long at the platform, as the White Rose was due.

 

 

 

Headboard and lamps on straight, and a full complement of buffers. Stiil a stripe on a cariage though.