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On 03/06/2021 at 08:49, great northern said:

And so to the last train of the day. Our photographer is geting a bit tired, after all he has been here since 7.15am, and even his magic camera is struggling with the light. He has also entered a time warp, as this photo must have been taken several months later. Someone has been brave in sending this so far from home on the 7.21 KX stopper. It has managed to get here without failing though.

 

 

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I bet the poor driver was sitting in the cab listening very closely to the engine note, with fingers and toes crossed!
Peterborough's shed foreman will get rid of this south as fast as possible. Light engine move?:lol:

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6 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Baby Deltics have nothing on these big boys.

 

Last time I saw smoke like that, was a KC135 air refuelling tanker fitted with water injected engines , taking off from Fairford in the 1980's!:lol:

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Hello everyone

 

In advance of our move towards Freight vehicles in forthcoming Mini-Polls Nos.4 & 5 (Mondays 7 & 14 June), I thought it might be useful ‘to take stock’ of where we are in respect of current RTR. Below is a list of what we have seen since 2000 – if you can spot any missing, please let me know and I will patch them back in. Note that dates are approximate and are either ‘announced date’ or ‘on the market date’.

 

GWR

2001 Bachmann Goods Fruit Van

2001 Bachmann Mogo

2001 Bachmann Double Vent Van

2009 Bachmann Cattle Wagon

2013 Bachmann Shunter’s Truck

2016 Oxford 6-wheel Brake Van

2017 Hornby Brake Van

2021 Rapido Loriot (but only part of a Titfield Thunderbolt set as yet)

2021 Rapido Brake Van (but only part of a Titfield Thunderbolt set as yet)

 

SR

2005 Bachmann Planked Vent Van

2005 Bachmann Plywood Vent Van

2012 Bachmann Pill Box Brake Van

2016 Hornby Cattle Wagon

2019 Rails SECR Van

2019 Hornby Warner Brake Van

2021 Rapido SECR 5- & 7-Plank Wagons

 

LMS

2001 Bachmann Single Vent Van Sliding Doors

2014 Bachmann MR Brake Van

2016 Hornby Coke Hopper

2019 Hornby Brake Van

 

LNER

2002 Bachmann 20-ton Brake Van

2010 Bachmann Highfit Steel Open

2010 Bachmann Fruit Van

2010 Bachman Vent Van (Plank and Corrugated Ends)

2014 Bachmann Fish Van 10ft

2015 Hornby 20-ton Coal Hopper

2016 Oxford Cattle Wagon 9ft wb

2016 Oxford 6-plank General Merchandise

2016 TMC Double Bolster/Plate Wagon

2018 Hornby Brake Van

2020 Oxford GER 10-ton Van

 

BR (but note that some may ‘derive from’ company vehicles)

2001 Bachmann Conflat A

2001 Bachmann 1-plank Lowfit

2001 Bachmann 3-plank Open

2001 Bachmann 16-ton Slope Side Mineral Wagon

2001 Bachmann 16-ton Slope Side Tippler Wagon

2002 Bachmann 24-ton Ore Hopper

2005 Bachmann Shock Absorbing Van

2006 Bachmann Shocbar Open

2008 Bachmann Plywood Vent Van

2008 Bachmann Fruit Van

2008 Bachmann Insulated Van

2010 Bachmann Presflo Cement

2013 Bachmann CovHop

2013 Bachmann Grain Wagon

2014 Bachmann Pipe Wagon

2014 Bachmann Vent Van

2015 Bachmann Fitted Tube

2017 Bachmann Vanwide

2017 Rapido Gunpowder Van

2017 Kernow Bogie Bolster E

2017 TMC 25.5-ton Double Door Coal Wagon

2018 Accurascale 25.5-ton Coal Hopper

2020 Accurascale 21-ton Mineral Wagon Double Doors

 

Other

2000 Bachmann Coal Traders Pack

2000 Bachmann 14-ton Tank Wagon

2004 Dapol 12-ton Tank Wagon

2005 Bachmann 45t Monobloc Tank

2005 Dapol 9-plank Mineral Wagon Double Doors

2005 Dapol Lime Van

2006 Dapol 4-plank Open

2006 Dapol 20-ton Steel Mineral Wagon

2008 Dapol Rectangular Tank

2009 Dapol 5-plank Open 9ft wb

2009 Dapol 7-plank Open 9ft wb

2011 Hornby 27t Iron Ore Tippler

2011 Hornby Standard Brake Van

2015 Oxford 7-plank Wagon

2015 Heljan Class A & B Tank Wagons

2016 Bachmann Anchor Mounted Tank Wagon

2016 Bachmann Warflat

2016 Hattons Warwell etc

2016 Oxford ICI Limestone Hopper Wagons

2018 Oxford Tank Wagons

 

They split up as:

38 – Bachmann (but none announced since 2017. Presflo Twin Silo announced then cancelled)

9 – Hornby (but they didn’t really start to ‘kick in’ with Freight until 2016)

8 – Dapol

7 – Oxford

4 – Rapido

2 – Accurascale

2 – TMC

1 – Rails       

1 – Hattons

1 – Kernow

1 – Heljan

 

 

This might give the impression that we are ‘well served’ with freight types, but I believe there are many types just waiting in the wings:

* Banana Vans – plenty of diagrams, travelled far and wide, a train of 20 vans is perfectly reasonable.

* Bogie Chemical Tanks – remember the Hornby Dublo ones?

* Container Types – the containers themselves that is.

* Continental Ferry Wagons & Vans – a wide variety to choose from.

* Early RCH Coal Wagons – you will be able to vote for those on Monday.

* Ex-Company Opens and Vans – there was a myriad of these types!

* ‘Heavy Duty’ types – such as Flatrols, Trestrols, Weltrols, Loriots, Bogie Plate Wagons etc.

* Mineral Wagons – such as the SNCF type.

 

Food for thought!

 

Brian

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Thanks Brian,

 

That's a really interesting list, set out like that. Fancy the LMS being the poor relation- how the mighty are fallen!

 

To clarify - are some of those releases re-runs of existing mouldings? In some cases, quite ancient?(!) Be interesting to know how many of those are completely new vehicles?

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8 minutes ago, BMacdermott said:

Hello everyone

 

In advance of our move towards Freight vehicles in forthcoming Mini-Polls Nos.4 & 5 (Mondays 7 & 14 June), I thought it might be useful ‘to take stock’ of where we are in respect of current RTR. Below is a list of what we have seen since 2000 – if you can spot any missing, please let me know and I will patch them back in. Note that dates are approximate and are either ‘announced date’ or ‘on the market date’.

 

GWR

2001 Bachmann Goods Fruit Van

2001 Bachmann Mogo

2001 Bachmann Double Vent Van

2009 Bachmann Cattle Wagon

2013 Bachmann Shunter’s Truck

2016 Oxford 6-wheel Brake Van

2021 Rapido Loriot (but only part of a Titfield Thunderbolt set as yet)

2021 Rapido Brake Van (but only part of a Titfield Thunderbolt set as yet)

 

SR

2005 Bachmann Planked Vent Van

2005 Bachmann Plywood Vent Van

2012 Bachmann Pill Box Brake Van

2016 Hornby Cattle Wagon

2019 Rails SECR Van

2021 Rapido SECR 5- & 7-Plank Wagons

 

LMS

2001 Bachmann Single Vent Van Sliding Doors

2014 Bachmann MR Brake Van

2016 Hornby Coke Hopper

2019 Hornby Brake Van

 

LNER

2002 Bachmann 20-ton Brake Van

2010 Bachmann Highfit Steel Open

2010 Bachmann Fruit Van

2010 Bachman Vent Van (Plank and Corrugated Ends)

2014 Bachmann Fish Van 10ft

2015 Hornby 20-ton Coal Hopper

2016 Oxford Cattle Wagon 9ft wb

2016 Oxford 6-plank General Merchandise

2018 Hornby Brake Van

2020 Oxford GER 10-ton Van

 

BR (but note that some may ‘derive from’ company vehicles)

2001 Bachmann Conflat A

2001 Bachmann 1-plank Lowfit

2001 Bachmann 3-plank Open

2001 Bachmann 16-ton Slope Side Mineral Wagon

2001 Bachmann 16-ton Slope Side Tippler Wagon

2002 Bachmann 24-ton Ore Hopper

2005 Bachmann Shock Absorbing Van

2006 Bachmann Shocbar Open

2008 Bachmann Plywood Vent Van

2008 Bachmann Fruit Van

2008 Bachmann Insulated Van

2010 Bachmann Presflo Cement

2013 Bachmann CovHop

2013 Bachmann Grain Wagon

2014 Bachmann Pipe Wagon

2014 Bachmann Vent Van

2015 Bachmann Fitted Tube

2017 Bachmann Vanwide

2017 Rapido Gunpowder Van

2017 Kernow Bogie Bolster E

2017 TMC 25.5-ton Double Door Coal Wagon

2018 Accurascale 25.5-ton Coal Hopper

2020 Accurascale 21-ton Mineral Wagon Double Doors

 

Other

2000 Bachmann Coal Traders Pack

2000 Bachmann 14-ton Tank Wagon

2004 Dapol 12-ton Tank Wagon

2005 Bachmann 45t Monobloc Tank

2005 Dapol 9-plank Mineral Wagon Double Doors

2005 Dapol Lime Van

2006 Dapol 4-plank Open

2006 Dapol 20-ton Steel Mineral Wagon

2008 Dapol Rectangular Tank

2009 Dapol 5-plank Open 9ft wb

2009 Dapol 7-plank Open 9ft wb

2011 Hornby 27t Iron Ore Tippler

2011 Hornby Standard Brake Van

2015 Oxford 7-plank Wagon

2015 Heljan Class A & B Tank Wagons

2016 Bachmann Anchor Mounted Tank Wagon

2016 Bachmann Warflat

2016 Hattons Warwell etc

2016 Oxford ICI Limestone Hopper Wagons

2018 Oxford Tank Wagons

 

They split up as:

38 – Bachmann (but none announced since 2017. Presflo Twin Silo announced then cancelled)

8 – Dapol

7 – Hornby (but they didn’t really start to ‘kick in’ with Freight until 2016)

7 – Oxford

4 – Rapido

2 – Accurascale

1 – Rails       

1 – Hattons

1 – Kernow

1 – Heljan

1 – TMC

 

This might give the impression that we are ‘well served’ with freight types, but I believe there are many types just waiting in the wings:

* Banana Vans – plenty of diagrams, travelled far and wide, a train of 20 vans is perfectly reasonable.

* Bogie Chemical Tanks – remember the Hornby Dublo ones?

* Container Types – the containers themselves that is.

* Continental Ferry Wagons & Vans – a wide variety to choose from.

* Early RCH Coal Wagons – you will be able to vote for those on Monday.

* Ex-Company Opens and Vans – there was a myriad of these types!

* ‘Heavy Duty’ types – such as Flatrols, Trestrols, Weltrols, Loriots, Bogie Plate Wagons etc.

* Mineral Wagons – such as the SNCF type.

 

Food for thought!

 

Brian

Brian, would 'in the wings' include SR/BR Walrus Bogie Ballast wagons?

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24 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

 

That's a really interesting list, set out like that. Fancy the LMS being the poor relation- 

 

Absolutely. What's missing is the LMS/LNER double bolster wagon from TMC/Bachmann. One of the best rtr wagons of recent years.

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What a long list!

 

But under "Other", would it be appropriate to include the LNER / BR "Trout" 4 wheel ballast hopper from Hornby, unless I have missed it?

 

Also, Hornby have in recent years produced completely new GW and SR (LSWR) Brake Vans.

 

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Thanks LNER4479

 

The greater majority are 'complete new tooling'. The policy of the old 'main' 00 Wishlist Poll was that we would list any item that hadn't had completely new tooling. Hence, we listed such as the LNER V2 even though it had had a new chassis.

 

As I have often said, it is impossible to be 'deadly accurate' with descriptions. There are times when Wagon X gets announced, then gets cancelled, then gets re-announced and then eventually appears as something related but slightly different!:)

 

Brian

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Thanks gwrrob & 31A

 

The LNER Double Bolster (and Plate) were in my notes but they slipped my net! Patching in shortly!

 

Correct that I have missed the Hornby LSWR & GWR Brake Vans. Also going in shortly.

 

Brian

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3 hours ago, BMacdermott said:

Hello again

 

I forgot to say that Ballast Wagons will be taken up in the Departmental Stock Mini-Poll No.7.

 

Brian

Thanks Brian. I think there is a good place for Engineers' Stock.

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22 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

That's horrendous.....no wonder most of the Trees are dead at that place.

I reckon it was a coal-fired diesel, and the fireman had just been shovelling as the smoke turned white as it got to the camera!

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