Peterborough North

[jwealleans]

I'd never noticed that before - those steel carriages have a toplight over the door, just like Gresley's GN stock, rather than a vent. I wonder why they made that change? I can't think of any other LNER built Gresley stock which had that feature (cue a long list of those which did....)

[great northern]

Another shot of 60504, showing the full length of the loco.

I'm increasingly appreciating these rebuilds now. Impressive in an unorthodox and rather ungainly sort of way.

[Market65]

I'd never noticed that before - those steel carriages have a toplight over the door, just like Gresley's GN stock, rather than a vent. I wonder why they made that change? I can't think of any other LNER built Gresley stock which had that feature (cue a long list of those which did....)

The only others were the non corridors with steel sides from the same era. I also don't know why the top lights over the door droplights were used on those carriages. All very mysterious! The books I have, and other reference material gives no information whatsoever.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[31A]

The only others were the non corridors with steel sides from the same era. I also don't know why the top lights over the door droplights were used on those carriages. All very mysterious! The books I have, and other reference material gives no information whatsoever.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

I'd never noticed that before - those steel carriages have a toplight over the door, just like Gresley's GN stock, rather than a vent. I wonder why they made that change? I can't think of any other LNER built Gresley stock which had that feature (cue a long list of those which did....)

 

 

The Tourist Stock coaches also had toplights in the doors.  Can't imagine why though, except that they also didn't have teak sides (plywood in this case) and maybe the usual ventilators and hoods couldn't be fitted for some reason?

[Flood]

Another shot of 60504, showing the full length of the loco.

504 2 - Copy.jpg

I'm increasingly appreciating these rebuilds now. Impressive in an unorthodox and rather ungainly sort of way.

Just one thing, the emblem on the tender is the wrong way round. On the driver's side the newer style always faced the front, the fireman's side originally faced the front then changed to be the same as per the driver's side (i.e. faced to the rear). Still looks a lovely job.

 

Interesting that prototypically it is one of the locos still with the original boiler (the firebox correctly doesn't extend past the curve in the running plate) and without the cut back cab. DJH or PDK kit?

[Market65]

Thank you, 31A. I forgot about the Tourist stock! The later sets had metal bodywork, so I don't know what was going on with the top lights!

 

With regards,

 

Rob.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Market65

[New Haven Neil]

It's an odd thing, but I hated Thompson pacifics for years. Now I'm beginning to find they have a modern (for the era) 'leaning into it' sort of look.  Middle age I suppose!

[great northern]

Just one thing, the emblem on the tender is the wrong way round. On the driver's side the newer style always faced the front, the fireman's side originally faced the front then changed to be the same as per the driver's side (i.e. faced to the rear). Still looks a lovely job.

 

Interesting that prototypically it is one of the locos still with the original boiler (the firebox correctly doesn't extend past the curve in the running plate) and without the cut back cab. DJH or PDK kit?

 DJH Graham, and the builder did indeed make a mistake with that emblem, which I didn't notice until Tony Wright, who else?, pointed it out. The question then was whether it bothered me so much that I was prepared to start removing and replacing. I decided it didn't bother me enough.

[great northern]

It's an odd thing, but I hated Thompson pacifics for years. Now I'm beginning to find they have a modern (for the era) 'leaning into it' sort of look.  Middle age I suppose!

Yes, they are growing on me too, but it isn't middle age in my case.

[great northern]

I do have one more shot of Mons Meg, but we are back to head on view.

Actually, this one has come out a bit better than most attempts at shots from this point. I caught that column with my sleeve, and forgot to straighten it before taking the photo.

Meanwhile the pilot has brought the stock for the 3.22pm to East into the bay. That D16 in the yard will make its way down to back on in due course.

Nearly a spectacular result with that telegraph pole again. Neil will like it though.

[31A]

Thank you, 31A. I forgot about the Tourist stock! The later sets had metal bodywork, so I don't know what was going on with the top lights!

 

With regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

Lest I appear smug, I had forgotten as well until I started looking in books for pictures of the steel bodied twins (having also not realised they had top lights) and came across pictures of the Tourist Stock as well!

[great northern]

Off shortly to find out if that return to form was anything more than a temporary aberration, so just a couple of frankly not very exciting pictures this morning.

V2 leaving with that ECS train. That Hornby conversion stands up to close scrutiny quite well, I think.

And another shot of the N5, taken from the safety of Platform 2. This one came out as nearly what I was looking for.

[Northroader]

On the "Thompson Pacific look", back in 1947 Odhams published a book "The Worlds Railways and how they work" including this picture, I'm sorry about the poor quality, it's printed on grey paper. The number, if you can't make it out, is 3698. If you were an eleven year old boy living on the western side of the country, the effect was "WOW!"

As there was a "Drake" on the same page, I thought "should I indulge him?" well....

[Mallard60022]

Oh, I've come over all shivers................especially with the Nelson which inspired the Royal Scot design I believe?

 

Philth.

Edited July 25, 2016 by Mallard60022

[great northern]

Aberration. Say no more, and pass on hurriedly to this evening's photos.

We haven't had much black and white for a while.

And this is a new angle.62613 is reversing out of the old engine shed yard, and will move down to back onto the coaches in the Up bay. Clauds really are very handsome locos. I wonder if I need another?

[The Blue Streak]

Aberration. Say no more, and pass on hurriedly to this evening's photos.

 

Gilbert, I thought you said the Thompson Pacifics were starting to grow on You. .

(Ted sneaks off to naughty corner)!!

Edited July 26, 2016 by The Blue Streak

[Fenman]

... Clauds really are very handsome locos. I wonder if I need another?

Yes. You can never have enough Clauds.

 

Paul

[stewartingram]

Aberration. Say no more, and pass on hurriedly to this evening's photos.

V2 leaving 2.JPG

We haven't had much black and white for a while.

2613 reversing.JPG

And this is a new angle.62613 is reversing out of the old engine shed yard, and will move down to back onto the coaches in the Up bay. Clauds really are very handsome locos. I wonder if I need another?

 

You don't NEED any Clauds. It is a MUST HAVE situation. GE section loco after all.

 

Stewart

[jwealleans]

At the price Hattons are still doing them, it would be rude not to.

[Mallard60022]

Gilbert, I thought you said the Thompson Pacifics were starting to grow on You. .

(Ted sneaks off to naughty corner)!!

Shhhhhhhh.....G means the game with little balls................................Shhhhhhhhhh!

In no way was he commenting on Nelsons.

P

Edited July 26, 2016 by Mallard60022

[great northern]

Of course, gentlemen, you are correct that one cannot have too many Clauds. The problem is that short sighted philistines had withdrawn most of them by my period, so I don't have many to choose from. Most inconveniently, the remaining ones at March which I don't already have retained the decorative valances, so the Hornby model is not appropriate.

 

Looking through the books to establish this though did remind me that I have already slightly warped history by moving 62613 to Spital Bridge in 1958, when this didn't actually occur till April 1959, outside my time frame. My ability to cheat therefore already exists, and that acknowledgment, together with Jonathan's comment, may well tip the balance. I really do not like to be rude, or not knowingly anyway.

[great northern]

And so to the last two pictures from last week's shoot, which reminds me that I had better go and take some more.

62613 is now ready for its one mile journey.

While the C12 sits in the other Up bay,waiting for something to do.

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi Gilbert

 

What you need to cure your obsession with Claud is a nice Brush type 2, a wonderful replacement as British Railways found out. 

[great northern]

Hi Gilbert

 

What you need to cure your obsession with Claud is a nice Brush type 2, a wonderful replacement as British Railways found out. 

Wot!   Skinheads   Not having any of them on my layout, threatening and upsetting the passengers.

[chaz]

Wot!   Skinheads   Not having any of them on my layout, threatening and upsetting the passengers.

 

Lucky, then, that they are out of period for your layout!   Didn't the early batch of 20 pilot scheme machines go the GE section in late '57? So you are safe - the production series locos were delivered from '59 to the GN (I believe). Of course it does rather depend on how strict you are about time....

 

I never liked 'em much when I was a spotter but I do like my 7mm model....

 

 

...so I invoked Rule One.....

 

Chaz

Edited July 26, 2016 by chaz