60012 Commonwealth of Australia Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Peter, there are many modellers of British-outline railways in the Melbourne area. DougN is one who models the LNER and is an RMWeb member. Many of the others are members of the British Railway Modellers of Australia - see www.brma.asn.au for more info. I know that they would be very happy to give you whatever help and support they can. Sorry Gilbert for hijacking your topic with this plug for BRMA. Yeah, I've met a couple who model in O and P4 respectively, but STILL need to get around to joining BRMA!!! Been meaning to for a while now Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2016 Peter, there are many modellers of British-outline railways in the Melbourne area. DougN is one who models the LNER and is an RMWeb member. Many of the others are members of the British Railway Modellers of Australia - see www.brma.asn.au for more info. I know that they would be very happy to give you whatever help and support they can. Sorry Gilbert for hijacking your topic with this plug for BRMA. That's great as Peter can probably get 'live' rather than 'remote' advice and actual hands on help. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Here is a follow up to the discussion we had quite recently about how parcels and other things got transferred from one platform to another at PN. This image recently appeared on the peterboroughimages.co.uk website, and is credited as copyright of the NRM. PbNorthParcels.jpg It all seems fairly manual, doesn't it? this morning's photo is another of 60800, now waiting for the off. 800 2 small.jpg Now you've posted that parcels image, I do remember seeing it happen! What a wonderful picture. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) The Kirk kits, if they are even available ... were OK in their day, 30 years ago, but are really not anywhere near today's standards. I'm going to disagree with Gilbert and the Duck here. If you're prepared to put the time and effort in you can get a result from the Kirk kits which is every bit as good as any other LNER carriage available today. You have to recognise their limitations, but if you keep what's worth keeping (everything above the solebar, essentially) and make use of the extra components which are available you can get a decent result. In this box there are kits for the same carriage diagram from Comet, MJT, Kirk and a repainted Hornby. Other than the Hornby, it's not easy to tell which is which. You also end up with lighter carriages which if you're using RTR locos and want a realistically long train is a consideration. To give you an idea, this is the kind of thing you need to be doing: I've used the Kirk floor there, now I'd chuck that away as well and make one out of Paxolin. You can also cut and shut Kirk kits to make other diagrams. This started life in Ian Kirk's moulding machine: I can't find pictures of two completed carriages of the same diagram, one from a Kirk kit and one of brass, but hopefully you have the idea. Don't dismiss them that easily, they still have their place. Edited July 12, 2018 by jwealleans 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2016 I'm going to disagree with Gilbert and the Duck here. If you're prepared to put the time and effort in you can get a result from the Kirk kits which is every bit as good as any other LNER carriage available today. You have to recognise their limitations, but if you keep what's worth keeping (everything above the solebar, essentially) and make use of the extra components which are available you can get a decent result. In this box there are kits for the same carriage diagram from Comet, MJT, Kirk and a repainted Hornby. Other than the Hornby, it's not easy to tell which is which. You also end up with lighter carriages which if you're using RTR locos and want a realistically long train is a consideration. To give you an idea, this is the kind of thing you need to be doing: I've used the Kirk floor there, now I'd chuck that away as well and make one out of Paxolin. You can also cut and shut Kirk kits to make other diagrams. This started life in Ian Kirk's moulding machine: I can't find pictures of two completed carriages of the same diagram, one from a Kirk kit and one of brass, but hopefully you have the idea. Don't dismiss them that easily, they still have their place. Point taken, however you are a well known genius Blimey they look damn fine old chap. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 17, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2016 Lots of photos taken today, so I shall use up the last one from the previous shoot. It is a nice little thing, isn't it? The bottom of that fence needs some weeds. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 17, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2016 Just one more this evening. The Sentinel is still having a rest, while Flying Fox rolls by with an express containing portions from Ripon, Leeds, Bradford, and I think,Halifax. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60012 Commonwealth of Australia Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Just one more this evening. The Sentinel is still having a rest, while Flying Fox rolls by with an express containing portions from Ripon, Leeds, Bradford, and I think,Halifax. 106 and sentinel small.jpg There needs to be a "Beautiful" button on this! Absolutely love this one, definitely one of my favourite shots on the thread so far! It's certainly improved by the recent additions to the departmental area, the fence and the person standing there as the train goes past. Also the new Spital Bridge is brilliant, it and the other buildings are certainly incredibly detailed models and are a credit to their maker, Peter Leyland (Gravy Train). Peter (edited for spelling...) Edited July 17, 2016 by 60012 Commonwealth of Australia 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2016 That's a lovely photo. Just one question, and that is who's kit is that, I have gone all blank! I can only think of Wills off the top of my head. With best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 18, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 That's a lovely photo. Just one question, and that is who's kit is that, I have gone all blank! I can only think of Wills off the top of my head. With best regards, Rob. You are probably correct Rob. It was built by Tony Geary, and featured on both Stoke and Charwelton. I bought it when Tony decided to go O gauge. If it was built in the early 80s would Wills be the only source, or would DJH have been available by then? It has the look of Willls to me though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 18, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 I took another photo of Flying Fox as it slowed for the station stop, and tried to include the B17 in the background, but it didn't work as well as I would have liked. After the A3 had passed, a 9F was allowed across onto the Up slow with some more coal in tow. I've not quite got the angle I want on this either. The camera needs to be suspended in mid air, and I can't then hold it still for long enough. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 I took another photo of Flying Fox as it slowed for the station stop, and tried to include the B17 in the background, but it didn't work as well as I would have liked. 106 and 1630 small.jpg After the A3 had passed, a 9F was allowed across onto the Up slow with some more coal in tow. 9F 2 small.jpg I've not quite got the angle I want on this either. The camera needs to be suspended in mid air, and I can't then hold it still for long enough. Clever sort of telescopic selfie stick, or maybe a firm sponge (I heard sniggering............who was it?). Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 Point taken, however you are a well known genius Blimey they look damn fine old chap. Phil Just noticed that 12 wheeler. Is that a Kirky effort? Old for my sort of eras but very handsome. Philth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 I meant to tell people that if you require some ready made, RTR working signals of high quality then Wizard Models have some for sale. £30 I think they all are. Limited versions but lovely. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Just noticed that 12 wheeler. Is that a Kirky effort? It is. I can't claim all the credit - it came to me part built via Andy Rush, started by Nigel Hunt (both sadly no longer with us) and I finished it with help from Graeme King's resin components. It's at least two Kirk kits grafted together. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 18, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2016 A while back someone asked if I take pictures of moving locomotives. And the answer is, yes but not deliberately. I didn't quite turn the power off, and so the 9F sort of sneaked up on me. and a V2 with a KX- York parcels, included only because I didn't have to do any work on it. You may gather that I am rather disenchanted with things at the moment. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 and a V2 with a KX- York parcels, included only because I didn't have to do any work on it. Gilbert, that is a cracking picture, even more so if it's unedited, the Bridge frames the engine really nicely I think. I am so sorry that you're feeling a bit down, I hope that everything is Ok and if you have things going on that have you feeling disenchanted, You might need to re evaluate if spending so much time every day, taking and editing pictures for the hordes of PN tragics (ie. us lot) is the best thing for YOU. If it's becoming more like a daily chore, rather than fun (which is really what having a great trainset should be about). Maybe a little break from entertaining us might be in order until you get your mojo back. I am positive the last thing any of your followers (sounds like a cult) would want, is for you to feel that you have another thing to do for our benefit, if you are not feeling up to speed at the moment. All the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold trw1089 Posted July 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2016 Please don't be too disenchated Gilbert, any layout where you could produce a picture like this has got to be enchanting! A cracking shot which I now have has my wallpaper. Hope you don't mind the bit of additional cropping! Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 19, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2016 Thanks for your concern chaps. I had come home hot, tired and with a bad back after yet another awful round of golf, and it is that which is spoiling things for me at present, as I can't see a way out of it. I don't have problems with what I do on here, as it really doesn't take all that long, and it is a spur to go up and actually use the layout regularly. I now have to go and act as Starter for Lady President's day for two hours - such joy. Two more shots before I go. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2016 Now then G. The weather is too hot just now, but by the end of the week we are back to normal. Can I recommend a rail trip to somewhere interesting. Grantham to Lincoln for example. Go for a wander, spend some dosh in Digitrains, have a cool drink and then return to Grantham for an hour's spotting and relaxation. Drop me a PM this evening if the ladies let you free after the competition. Alternatively just go to Attenborough NWLT and look at some ducks. Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2016 It is part of the human condition to be periodically dissatisfied with things. Golf is one of Man's most frustrating inventions - says one who has stood and watched Tiger Woods struggling to hold his par at Sandwich! Ted and Phil have offered sound advice. Your back most needs rest and a little focussed therapy, perhaps. Once the back is comfy your swing will resume obedience, no doubt. Take the proverbial chill-pill, and bask in the knowledge that PN remains one of the foremost models of our time. You have achieved. Smile! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60012 Commonwealth of Australia Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It is part of the human condition to be periodically dissatisfied with things. Golf is one of Man's most frustrating inventions - says one who has stood and watched Tiger Woods struggling to hold his par at Sandwich! Ted and Phil have offered sound advice. Your back most needs rest and a little focussed therapy, perhaps. Once the back is comfy your swing will resume obedience, no doubt. Take the proverbial chill-pill, and bask in the knowledge that PN remains one of the foremost models of our time. You have achieved. Smile! It certainly is! I'm currently taking the time to redesign my layout so the station is on a slight curve to allow for much more prototypical curves, partly on Gilbert's advice and also partly as there are layouts such as Peterborough North which are the standards which I would really really like to achieve, but can't do that with 1.2m curves in the scenic section! I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I can get Dunoon anywhere near the standard Peterborough North is at then I will be very happy indeed! Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2016 Tiger Woods struggling to hold his par at Sandwich! I think I'd rather have a sandwich at Par. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2016 There you go............... Philth 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Perhaps Gilbert could tell us if it's a par 3 or a par4. Coat,Hat leaving.No it's too hot for all that.Just leaving. Derek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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