Peterborough North

[great northern]

Quick shot of a Hornby FO, not fully weathered yet. Certainly an improvement on the Replica ones I've used until now.

[great northern]

As the A4 waits, something very loud approaches.

Deltic has its usual afternoon Up Hull duty.

then one for the fans of coaching stock. I'm checking through all my rakes now that I have an influx of BSOs to replace BSKs which have had to substitute until now. That caused me to look closely at this one.

which isn't a BSK- it's a BSO. What is it though? It appears to be a Dia 191 car, of which only six were ever produced, if I've read Harris correctly. And what is its provenance?  Kirk by the look of it. Did he do such an esoteric kit? I don't remember it. Nor do I remember how it came into my possession, so I have another mystery to end the day.  It was the four compartments rather than the normal six which threw me by the way.

[Market65]

Oh goodness! Gilbert, I have an unbuilt Kirk Gresley BSO kit! You've just reminded me - I've had it about fifteen years! lol Anyway, I will get it built one day. I've just been busy with so many other things in life.  I can see, from your photo', that it builds into a nice model. But I cannot remember the code number of the kit. I will look it up tomorrow.

Please keep the photo's coming, they are as inspiring as ever. The ballast really does look so good and realistic now.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[manna]

G'Day Folks

 

You've made me go a check mine, and yes it's the same as yours.

 

manna

[great northern]

Shopping, which equals long traffic queues towards Nottingham as christmas madness escalates. Still. less than three weeks to go. Here is a picture. Atmospheric, no?

My vote is for no. Then we have the arrival of the Ely-Birmingham, with Champion Lodge dwarfed by Crescent Bridge. Still on duty, though withdrawal is very close.

[Mallard60022]

[CUTLER2579]

As the A4 waits, something very loud approaches.

A4 and Deltic.JPG

Deltic has its usual afternoon Up Hull duty.

Deltic closer.JPG

then one for the fans of coaching stock. I'm checking through all my rakes now that I have an influx of BSOs to replace BSKs which have had to substitute until now. That caused me to look closely at this one.

BSO other side.jpg

which isn't a BSK- it's a BSO. What is it though? It appears to be a Dia 191 car, of which only six were ever produced, if I've read Harris correctly. And what is its provenance?  Kirk by the look of it. Did he do such an esoteric kit? I don't remember it. Nor do I remember how it came into my possession, so I have another mystery to end the day.  It was the four compartments rather than the normal six which threw me by the way.

 Gilbert,

Whoever built the coach clearly believed it was a Dia 191 Brake Second / Third Open as the number is correct for such a vehicle and as you are probably aware it is still in service on the N.Y.M.R.

I am confused by your wording of 4 compartments.Did you mean 4 Bays per side?

Regards,Derek.

Edited December 5, 2017 by CUTLER2579

[jwealleans]

Kirk kit 8852. He also did a TTO to complement the open brake.

[Mallard60022]

Kirk kit 8852. He also did a TTO to complement the open brake.

It would appear that the range is available @ £15 each if Coopercraft is still extant, which they appear to be. 

    http://shop.cooper-craft.co.uk/index.php?cPath=61

 

Elsewhere, the Ex Kirk Kits range kits are £25.

I have bought an Ex Kirk Maunsell Dining car for £25 as it is a bit of a rarity but Coopercarft @ £15 don't have the Maunsells.....pity.

[jwealleans]

Don’t even think of going there, Phil - read the whole sorry thread on Coopercraft/Kirk first.

[Mallard60022]

Don’t even think of going there, Phil - read the whole sorry thread on Coopercraft/Kirk first.

Ah, I had seen that thread but was too scared to approach! However, thanks.

Philth

[stewartingram]

There were a load of Kirk/Coopercraft Gresley coach sides on the Precision Paints stand at Warley.

 

Stewart

Edited December 6, 2017 by stewartingram

[Mallard60022]

There were a load of Kirk/Coopercraft Gresly coach sides on the Precision Paints stand at Warley.

 

Stewart

Yup, they are the 25 quid ones.

[Taz]

£25 for one you can get or £15 for one you will never see

[great northern]

 Gilbert,

Whoever built the coach clearly believed it was a Dia 191 Brake Second / Third Open as the number is correct for such a vehicle and as you are probably aware it is still in service on the N.Y.M.R.

I am confused by your wording of 4 compartments.Did you mean 4 Bays per side?

Regards,Derek.

I am almost permanently confused Derek. Of course an open coach does not have compartments. I should have said bays. Yes, it is numbered as a Dia 191, but the diagram in Harris does not quite fit it. I've heard that some of the Kirk Gresleys aren't quite correct, so perhaps this is one of them. It seems a strange choice, when there were so few to Dia 191, Dia 196 being much more numerous. I'm told that one of the Kirk kits was entirely mythical. Can anyone confirm or otherwise, and if so, which one was it? It has always intrigued me.

[great northern]

Although I am reasonably good at sticking to a narrow band of the history of PN, occasionally I have to put my hands up and acknowledge an anachronism. There follows a case in point.

So, here is Champion Lodge arriving with the Ely- Birmingham, while Deltic waits for the right away. It can be stated with certainty that this never happened, as the B17 was withdrawn in July 58, while Deltic did not appear on the ECML until late February 59. It could be right if I'd chosen another B17 though. Right behind the Ely came a York and Hull express, the return leg of that very dirty 50A A2/3.

I can't remember if I forgot to photoshop this, or simply couldn't be bothered.

[Mallard60022]

Although I am reasonably good at sticking to a narrow band of the history of PN, occasionally I have to put my hands up and acknowledge an anachronism. There follows a case in point.

Deltic and 1643.JPG

..............while Deltic waits for the right away. Right behind the Ely came a York and Hull express, the return leg of that very dirty 50A A2/3.

 

 

As you can tell I'm ill and bored...apologies, but I need some cheeky fun on a grey day.

ATB Gilbert and keep sniffing the Liquid Poly.

Philthy Duck

[Oldddudders]

 

ATB Gilbert and keep sniffing the Liquid Poly.

Philthy Duck

 

Pot and kettle. Get well soon, Ducky. 

[bigwordsmith]

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As you can tell I'm ill and bored...apologies, but I need some cheeky fun on a grey day.

ATB Gilbert and keep sniffing the Liquid Poly.

Philthy Duck

 

 

It must have been an almighty shock tot he good folks of B&W 1959 Britain to have blood and custard coaches with a bright blue box roaring away at the front It certainly stands out from the background

[TrevorP1]

It must have been an almighty shock tot he good folks of B&W 1959 Britain to have blood and custard coaches with a bright blue box roaring away at the front It certainly stands out from the background

 

 

Yes. I've often wondered what the 'Average Joe' must have thought of the Silver Jubilee and Coronation in the thirties.

[great northern]

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As you can tell I'm ill and bored...apologies, but I need some cheeky fun on a grey day.

ATB Gilbert and keep sniffing the Liquid Poly.

Philthy Duck

Have you got any Bachmann MK1s Phil? If so, you could spend some time scraping roof ribs off. It's boring and repetitive, but needs very little brain activity. Just the thing when suffering with an 'orrible cold.

[great northern]

Yes. I've often wondered what the 'Average Joe' must have thought of the Silver Jubilee and Coronation in the thirties.

"The shock of the new", I've heard it described. There were some who hated the shape of the A4, as I recall.

[Mallard60022]

Have you got any Bachmann MK1s Phil? If so, you could spend some time scraping roof ribs off. It's boring and repetitive, but needs very little brain activity. Just the thing when suffering with an 'orrible cold.

Bachman Mk1s.....................ummm, probably. CIBA to go and look? Nope! However I do have some Liquid Poly to sniff and a few wagon kits to sort out so thanks for the support, I shall wear it tomorrow.

Ar$£

[great northern]

Another  angle on the big blue thing and the filthy A2 first.

It's even more in your face on this one, don't you think? We shall go down the other end, and return to the civilised and quieter norm.

 

There follows a rant. Why is it that people assume that everyone has a ****** mobile phone? I want to confirm a date for installation of a smart meter. Log on, and I get a requirement for a phobile moan number. "Required field" it says. I type in "no mobile", but it won't have that, so I have to go and phone them, which means waiting ages for someone to answer. :ireful:And why do I have to scroll so far down the list of emoticons to find this one? It should be right at the top.   So should this one.

[bigwordsmith]

Another  angle on the big blue thing and the filthy A2 first.

515 and Deltic 2.JPG

It's even more in your face on this one, don't you think? We shall go down the other end, and return to the civilised and quieter norm.

515 and 1626.JPG

 

There follows a rant. Why is it that people assume that everyone has a ****** mobile phone? I want to confirm a date for installation of a smart meter. Log on, and I get a requirement for a phobile moan number. "Required field" it says. I type in "no mobile", but it won't have that, so I have to go and phone them, which means waiting ages for someone to answer. :ireful:And why do I have to scroll so far down the list of emoticons to find this one? It should be right at the top.   So should this one.

 

 

Way of the world Gilbert - it's called progress ( apparently!)