Moderators AY Mod Posted March 25 Moderators Share Posted March 25 Found this whilst grazing... Borails? With untethered skips? The linked pic suggests Stevenage but I'm not convinced. It's not something I've ever noticed before (or seen modelled) so what sort of traffic is it? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, AY Mod said: Found this whilst grazing... Borails? With untethered skips? The linked pic suggests Stevenage but I'm not convinced. It's not something I've ever noticed before (or seen modelled) so what sort of traffic is it? For engineers' spoil trains, I believe; saw them around Tyne Yard, in the early 1990s 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brskate And https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/dr88201db924860 Edited March 25 by meld 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted March 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25 They look pristine so perhaps new ones being delivered from the manufacturer? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwmtwrch Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Mike_Walker said: They look pristine so perhaps new ones being delivered from the manufacturer? Their pristine condition and lack of indication of ownership supports this suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Spent a lot of time dumped at Healey Mills in the 1990s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted March 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25 5 hours ago, AY Mod said: The linked pic suggests Stevenage but I'm not convinced. Looks as though it might be at Hitchin (Up train at south end of station)? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT-1300 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Sorry, couldn't resist it! 1 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) They look to be the same design as the wagons (non - chute) in the Long Welded Rail Trains, indeed the photos on Paul Bartlett's site show wagons with the bridge rail folded in the stowed position. So, are they from disbanded LWRT sets, or were they built with that future use mind for flexibility? Edit to add that on another look, the machine that worked with them used the rails to shuffle along. Looks to be the same design of rails as the manipulator on the LWRTs run on. Interesting none the less! Jo Edited March 25 by Steadfast 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, black and decker boy said: Spent a lot of time dumped at Healey Mills in the 1990s I'm sorry to hear that old chum. But you were too good for her anyway. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 They were to work with a high output ballast cleaner and a shuttle car took the loaded slips back and forward in the same fashion as the TRT does with pods of new and used sleepers. The only place I know it worked was on the single line at Choppington between Morpeth and Bedlington after the Pit Strike restoring the embankment after coal had been discovered there and dug out! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, YT-1300 said: Sorry, couldn't resist it! 'Special Delivery' indeed - by Yodel by the looks of things 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mike_Walker said: They look pristine so perhaps new ones being delivered from the manufacturer? They were built in 1981 at Ashford, so if they were new this wasn't the ECML with that electrification. I'm not convinced it is in the sidings south of Hitchin, they gave me the impression of being narrower. So, it is a pity the photo is undated. 7 hours ago, Cwmtwrch said: Their pristine condition and lack of indication of ownership supports this suggestion. Why / how would they have indication of ownership. The photo is how they appeared years later. Mark has described how they were intended to be used, but when I saw them they tended to be individual, or perhaps a pair. Paul PS corrected because I had overlooked electrification to Hitchin was much earlier than the northern part of the ECML, so could easily by new in Hitchin. I never saw any in Hitchin and did go around the engineers yard there irregularly from 1975 to the early 1980s. Paul https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brskate Edited March 25 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted March 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: They were to work with a high output ballast cleaner and a shuttle car took the loaded slips back and forward in the same fashion as the TRT does with pods of new and used sleepers. The only place I know it worked was on the single line at Choppington between Morpeth and Bedlington after the Pit Strike restoring the embankment after coal had been discovered there and dug out! They were used around Anglia in conjunction with works for electrification in the 80s. As soon as I saw Andy's topic title I knew it was going to be them, fascinating to watch in action. Andi 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 An image of the full Skate formation https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/9562425026/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, 31A said: Looks as though it might be at Hitchin (Up train at south end of station)? Yes, used to be engineer's sidings there. Now a housing estate. HST unusually running slow road. The point in the foreground led to the siding where the Huntingdon DMU shittle lived - sidind not electrified and now also no longer there. Edited March 26 by Michael Hodgson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 In a moment of general boredom, I've just reached for my copy of Air Braked Wagons in Colour by D Ratcliffe and what page should i open it at? Page 94. Upon that page there are two photos of the wagoms One in action near Kennett and the second of the partly loaded train with a useful view from above In use on the Eastern from 1981 till withdrawal in 1995. Used with a ballast cleaner, 22 wagons in total, if the caption is to be believed, numbers DB997801 - 977822 Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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