RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted July 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2013 Mags was intrested to see a bit of shunting 66418 arrived with a Train and pulled straight into the receiving siding [attachment=303206:f2.jpg 08585 Vicky shunted the train back up clickett hill and then back under the cranes...just like Warren Lane f3.jpg f4.jpg cool pictures of the shunter. now i know it has a name i'll have to get some plates for my model of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I'd been the previous week. Made a very long walk around to the end of the new terminal too. It's not for the faint hearted and could raise eyebrows at security if I'd gone traipsing through the bushes for fots. It was empty so I left it. You can glimpse the traverser from the fence here though, it's about another 150yds to the left in the last picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted July 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2013 cool pictures of the shunter. now i know it has a name i'll have to get some plates for my model of it Have looked at shawplan website and they don't do them. Does anyone know where else I could try ? Thanks Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOMBATTY Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 More Pictures from Felixstowe Tanks were a bit thin on the ground...these 3 were at the back of Pentalver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Have looked at shawplan website and they don't do them. Does anyone know where else I could try ? Thanks Phil You might find it hard to find that nameplate for 08 as shawplan or fox don't do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Heres some Pandas for you Matt f10.jpg f8.jpg you know, looking at these, it wouldn't be too tough to adapt the transfers i've already made for the older style COSCO Reefer. You want some Alan? Moving on, my computer is being stupidly slow today, i first tried posting this at lunch time! Todays progress, very picture heavy for not very much done, both my drill batteries have drained themselves so i've had to stop so this is mostly to remind myself what i've done for each stage for when i continue. Firstly, thanks to ebay the lengths of wood have gained feet! they can now call themselves legs :-) Guess which 2 this idiot suddenly realised he'd cut too short.... These feet are great, quick pencil 'x' on the bottom of the leg, a deep 10mm hole and they're done. From top to bottom there's just shy of 2inches of adjustment. The legs have been cut to length witht eh feet in a middle (ish) position to work up to the average rail height of the rest of the layout......maybe a while before we find how far off they really are and have to adapt them some more! Spikey nut gets the small rubber mallet treatment into the hole for the adjustment thread to grip too. Only possible down side to these is it would be useful if the big nut was fixed to the thread to aid with spanner adjustment (Do you have any really strong epoxy to hand A-dog?) Next up, the legs need mounting sockets that are fixed to the boards. Very very carefully measured holes are drilled on the side parts of these mounting sockets for the standard WL 'long bolt and wingnut' to pass through. Once the first one was done it was used as a template guide for all the others to be the same. The big U-bolt in the hole is to keep it in line while the second hole is drilled. All holes drilled, short off-cuts of the lengths used to make the legs are used as spaces for the mounting sockets and the whole thing is clamped together and slipped onto the top of a leg. Again, very very careful measuring is carried out to make sure the holes are equally spaced each side of the leg. The first hole is drilled right through the leg. The U-bolt is used to make sure i went straight all the way through. and by some miracle i did! Second hole is drilled through the leg, again the u-bolt is used to check alignment. Then the G-clamp at one end is replaced with a pair of long screws going all the way through..... Then the other side also gets screwed. I'm a firm believer in using materials i already have lying around, hence the screws aren't all the way into the wood as they're about 1mm too long over all....They do the job nicely though! here's the mounting socket slid slightly down the leg showing the holes in the leg for the first time. And now the big test.....the mounting socket is flipped over on the leg, and all the holes still line up! When the Drill batteries have mor lif in them the other 3 legs will be drill using this mounting socket as a template. The first drilled leg shown here will then be used as a template to creat the other sockets around, and then in theory any leg should be able to fit into any socket. And finally to show how the sockets will work, half of each one will be fitted to a curved board end (somehow) and once two are connected and all the alignment stuff is done i'll cut the socket in half on the board join line. The leg is then 'articulated' between 2 boards and responsible for holding them together. 3 more sockets left to build then everything to fit. The aim is to have all this done by end-of-play Friday, but i'm working Thursday and Friday so technically i need to be done by the end of Wednesday.......Batteries best hurry up and charge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I should think your batteries could do with recharging the amount you have on the go Matt! Keep on keeping on! C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Nice pictures of the 08 freightliner shunter!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I should think your batteries could do with recharging the amount you have on the go Matt! Keep on keeping on! C6T. I remember thinking that drill was brilliant coming with 2 batteries....back in 199x! They've seen better days now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Mrs Satan had her first day at new work today, it's an outside job with lots of heavy lifting. Quote mrs Satan: 'I'm so hot sweaty and stinking. I smell worse than a train show.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Model Master Decals can print Name plates, I've used them for http://www.flickr.com/photos/tractorclag/8184977952/in/photostream/ my loco 'Old Fettercairn' http://www.modelmasterdecals.com/ Regards Roy You might find it hard to find that nameplate for 08 as shawplan or fox don't do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Hi Precision Decals will do custom names or if you prefer etched then Guilplates will etch to order although you will have to cut them out yourself Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 The batteries have charged! Now waiting for some glue to dry so here's a quick update. All the legs have been drilled and all the mounting sockets have been made. Next 2 curved boards are placed end to end, a mounting socket is sketched around, and the 6 'x's in the outline mark where to add small pilot holes. This also shows better the under-board bracing, the sockets are the same depth as the bracing. Just enough heigth in the garage for a leg to be tested in a socket before it's fixed down, i even managed to find 2 almost correct bolts! This prooves the concept that even though that leg and that socket weren't built together, they still line up nicely when fitted. 2 of the sockets are currently being glued on, one pair of boards on top of another with extra weight added. In a couple of hours hopefully i'll be able to carefully flip them over without them coming apart and get some nails through from the other side to help hold them together, plus the as yet to be revealed fixing and alignment method on the top side..... I probably should add some nails to fix in the bracing too, that's just glued on at the moment. I'd normally give something like that a good screw, but i feel like hammering it instead today...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7APT7 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Hi mate Great photo's dude, look forward to seeing the finished product of the curve... Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Well turning them over in one piece didn't quite go to plan, but with one side stuck on it was easy enough to re-glue the other side once flipped and do all the nailing. The 'alignment devices' (they're not slide-bolts, honest!) do their job perfectly. The idea i had for holding the boards tightly together during running i suddenly realised would block the space needed to get the leg bolts through so i'm re-thinking that one and probably off to a DIY later. The awkward/tense moment was making sure the cut went perfectly straight down through the socket to split the boards apart... Now either my work bench is lower than i thought, or the legs are far too long. Just had a hunt for the measurement i was sent to confirm i had remembered it right but can't find it written down anywhere. Hopefully it's correct! Anyway, a test set-up of the first 2 made, here sporting the single-leg look! And the 2 boards joined together with a carefully balanced pair of legs holding up the far end for the test. The boards re-align just fine when placed together, but without something to hold them tight togather yet it's not quite done.....but i do have a revised plan for that! A bit of a cruel shot showing the leg in place, i blame bad shadows! By end of play yesterday, the second pair of bolted- er i mean 'alignment device' fitted boards were ready to have their mounting socket cut in 2. Once that's done then there's 2 more to fit to complete the curves and it's done until they can be united with the rest of the layout for final fitting :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted July 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2013 Looking good there Matt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Looking good there Matt. Cheers bud. I took a walk to the small DIY in town earlier and got some hooks for holding the boards together tightly so they're now all fitted and doing a much better job than just the legs holding it. I've had a couple of hours doing the work on the final boards to make each end, these are joined to the boards that the slide bolts themselves are screwed too but a different technique has been used to align and connect them (you don't need 'alignment-devices' if they're permanently fixed;-) I'm just taking a drink break from finishing it off. Only thing left to do now is cut the last 2 leg sockets in half then test the full semi-circles. I'll take the camera out this time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted July 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2013 Sounds like your having fun and making some good progress. Then the ultimate test. Do they line up with WL other parts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Sounds like your having fun and making some good progress. Then the ultimate test. Do they line up with WL other parts? Well that's the awkward bit and why the need to be as wide as they are, Warren Lane track plan is not symetrical where it comes off the ends... Well here we are, a stack of 3 end boards together. 2 are permanently connected by a hinge and the 3rd stacks on top. For setting up, the hinged pair are connected to the Fiddle Yard at each end and that joint holds them 'flat'. A leg is added and bolted on. The slide bolt end is then fitted to the scenic boards to hold it 'flat, a leg is added and bolted on: The hinged section then un-folds and hooks and slide bolts on to complete the half-circle. And if i had any, the legs would receive their second bolt each to secure everything together. This middle section is not hinged access to the centre of the layout however much it may look like it! Alan specified everything to be joined together so that's the way it is to be used. However, here it is lined up and connected with no middle leg bolt. And the hinges lining up: That was the shunter end tested, now for the far end. For ease i've sat it on top of the existing boards. Unfolded and connected: Hinges lining up: Slide bolts and hooks lining up: All of it viewed from the other way: And a rubbish shot of the legs in their sockets with just 1 loose bolt through each. Having a proper pair of bolts that can actually tighten will secure and hold in place the legs much better than they are at the moment. Alan, height has been checked, it is near as damn it 115cm from floor to rail height. That was the right measurement wasn't it?! THAT IS ALL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Couple of additional points to mention: You'll notice the hinges are raised on small 6mm think bits of mdf. This is so when the layout is folded the tracks that will be fitted on clear each other. The slide bolts stand just shy of 12mm high. So when the layout is folded for storage/transport, the slide bolts hold the tracks clear of each other at the other end too. You'll notice pencil lines over the board joints for checking alignment. These are also for showing where the centre of each track will need to cross the joint. 3 tracks for the shunter end (2 running lines and the head shunt) and just 2 at the far end of the layout (running lines only). From measurements provided by Alan, lines need adding to roughly where the scenic and fiddle yard tracks will enter at the ends of the curved boards. As stated before, they're not symetrical, it's going to be a bit of a challenge and it's just too hot for me to wrap my head around it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 So what happened along the way here matt when I spoke to Alan a while ago he said he had ideas on how he was going to do the curves Then all of a sudden you have done them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted July 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2013 thats some great work there matt i particularly like the three section solution including the hinges and how it stacks down so nicely. it looks an elegant solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy84 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Not tried posting a photo before so I hope this has worked. One for all you container junkies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted July 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2013 66571 arrives at Maritime with 4O14 from Crewe (2).JPG Not tried posting a photo before so I hope this has worked. One for all you container junkies. thats a nice shot!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 cracking shot with the ship in the distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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