RMweb Gold 96701 Posted February 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Holmesfeldian said: From memory I think the lighter green was referred to as 'Sherwood' Green. Photos of early diesels in plain all over green seem to be shades of olive green rather than Brunswick or maybe that is down to film emulsions of the day Brunswick Green is one of those long perpetuated myths. Tappy tappy, or clicky clicky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 The shade of Sherwood Green is quite subjective, I have seen photos of an ex-works Class 17 in sunshine where the "apparent" colour matches the Dapol Class 29 very well, but I suspect it weathered very quickly to a darker, more browny shade which seems typical in most photos. I have a much modified Hornby 29 (original paintwork, though weathered) which can be seen to the right in this photo, with a Dapol model on the left: Of the 2 I think the Dapol colour is closer; I am planning to repaint the Hornby one with Railmatch Sherwood Green as part of an overhaul so will see how it compares to the Dapol colour. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Rossington Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 29/02/2020 at 15:46, Signaller69 said: The shade of Sherwood Green is quite subjective, I have seen photos of an ex-works Class 17 in sunshine where the "apparent" colour matches the Dapol Class 29 very well, but I suspect it weathered very quickly to a darker, more browny shade which seems typical in most photos. I have a much modified Hornby 29 (original paintwork, though weathered) which can be seen to the right in this photo, with a Dapol model on the left: Of the 2 I think the Dapol colour is closer; I am planning to repaint the Hornby one with Railmatch Sherwood Green as part of an overhaul so will see how it compares to the Dapol colour. I’ve painted an LGB G scale 2095 into reverse two tone green and found the railmatch sherwood green to be much closer to the Dapol colour than the Hornby. Link if anybody would like to see... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, Rob Rossington said: I’ve painted an LGB G scale 2095 into reverse two tone green and found the railmatch sherwood green to be much closer to the Dapol colour than the Hornby. Link if anybody would like to see... Hi Rob, The colour scheme suits your loco! Thanks for that. Not got round to doing my 29 yet, but it looks as if, as you say, it won't be a million miles off the Dapol shade. The Hornby colour looks more Apple green imho. Martyn. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Further to the shade of Sherwood Green debate, not very scientific, but here's my Bachby 29 in progress to becoming late condition 6123 (from 6121), which has had Railmatch Sherwood Green applied, with Dapol's D6114 as purchased behind. The Railmatch colour is not as close to the Dapol as I thought it might be, being clearly a couple of shades darker and appears a good match for prototype "in service" photos, but there are also photos out there showing what appears to be a lighter, more lime green shade, closer to the Dapol model, on some ex-works locos (particularly class 17s) in sunny conditions. 50 year old colour photos can be very subjective of course. Edited March 9, 2020 by Signaller69 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 My model arrived yesterday. I am rather pleased with it. One thing I note is it has red circle coupling code. Could these loco s work in multiple with class 31/0's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) In theory yes, but I wonder if they actually did. There weren’t many red circle (electro-magnetic) control locos about, the toffee apples, class 16? and these. Andy g Edited March 11, 2020 by uax6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2020 Also about half of the class 17s too I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, stovepipe said: Also about half of the class 17s too I think? They were red diamond, not red circle. It was nearly two-thirds of them. Really odd concept to split the equipment across a class. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: They were red diamond, not red circle. It was nearly two-thirds of them. Really odd concept to split the equipment across a class. Roy Perhaps there was a pressing need to explore ways to make them more reliable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: They were red diamond, not red circle. It was nearly two-thirds of them. Really odd concept to split the equipment across a class. Roy Ah yes so they were. Perhaps I was thinking of that other spectacular success, the Metrovick Co-Bos. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 21 hours ago, uax6 said: In theory yes, but I wonder if they actually did. There weren’t many red circle (electro-magnetic) control locos about, the toffee apples, class 16? and these. Andy g It will be my photo find of the year to see a 31/0 - 29 combination. I do have evidence of an oddball pairing in a Whitemoor Junction train register. In this case it was a class 44 and class 15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Links from Facebook page for North British Diesel and Electric Locomotives. This picture might help a little regarding two tone green: last day at Laurencekirk station, September 1967. D6102 at same station on same day. From same Flickr account but not clear if it is the same train in both pictures, although this could be of the first one departing? 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted March 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, 26power said: Links from Facebook page for North British Diesel and Electric Locomotives. This picture might help a little regarding two tone green: last day at Laurencekirk station, September 1967. D6102 at same station on same day. From same Flickr account but not clear if it is the same train in both pictures, although this could be of the first one departing? O T, but this is my home station. It's changed quite a bit since then. I must say, it looks lovely in these images. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Link from Ebay showing ex works colours. Note the grilles on this loco are painted in body colours. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/392728053152?ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F710-127635-2958-0%2F16%3Fitm%3D392728053152%26user_name%3D%26spid%3D2047675%26mpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.co.uk%252Fitm%252F-%252F392728053152%26swd%3D2%26mplxParams%3Duser_name%252Citm%252Cswd%252Cmpre%252C%26sojTags%3Ddu%253Dmpre%252Citm%253Ditm%252Cuser_name%253Duser_name%252Csuri%253Dsuri%252Cspid%253Dspid%252Cswd%253Dswd%252C%26srcrot%3D710-127635-2958-0%26rvr_id%3D2338271525536%26rvr_ts%3Dee815fee1700aaaa67d2800bfffe499b 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Without trawling though the whole thread I don't know if we've had these already, anyway here goes - the second pic with D6112 at Fort William shows how grubby the lighter green upper panel could get, even allowing for the age and rendition of the image itself... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 A long shot, does anyone have any evidence of a 29 getting down into Ayrshire, either to Ayr or down the GSWR? ive many books but no photos and can see they spent most of their time north of Glasgow but really would like one to appear on Kirkmellington thanks graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 There were some limited trials on coal trains in the Dalmellington area around 1961 ish; the loco involved was D6112 I believe, and there were images in Trains Illustrated that year 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 12 hours ago, paulbb said: There were some limited trials on coal trains in the Dalmellington area around 1961 ish; the loco involved was D6112 I believe, and there were images in Trains Illustrated that year Magic, thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Derek Cross made a comment in one of his books, "Ayr Shed didn't like North British Injuns" Think that might have extended to diesels as well Jim 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Photo by Peter Martin : D6122 at Crewe South in 1967, en route from Inverurie Works to.....? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Rugd1022 said: Photo by Peter Martin : D6122 at Crewe South in 1967, en route from Inverurie Works to.....? Or is it D6121? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: Photo by Peter Martin : D6122 at Crewe South in 1967, en route from Inverurie Works to.....? Hither Green, then Barry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Member charliepetty Posted March 23, 2020 Trade Member Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: Hither Green, then Barry. Went to Hither Green for Re-Railing training. Charlie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted April 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2020 Quick question - has anyone attempted to fit tablet catcher recess to a class 21 yet for a North East version? I’m assuming Dapol have not said anything about a follow up tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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