Ron Heggs Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hello Ron, love the work that you've done, on the web strips did you cut them to the curve or did you cut them straight and then bend them? OzzyO. Hi, Ozzy Thanks - The strips were cut straight, and curved using the usual finger and thumb method - slightly over curvature, leaving for an hour or two to releive any stresses, then fixing in position If the curvature was extreme (for say arched or circular windows, etc.), then I would relieve the stresses by plunging in boiling water for a minute, then plunging in cold water for about five minutes Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thanks Stefan for both of those approvals !! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Still have 198 Transverse Tie Beams to build - although the template is OK, an increase in build tempo and accuracy is called for - a jig is the answer, at least for the initial stage Can now build accurately the basic structure in under 2 minutes - the rest of the beam construction falls into place easily and relatively quickly, as all the component parts are already pre-cut ... to be continued >>>>> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thanks Paul !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 6, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2011 What stuns me about this build is the sheer matter-of-factness about it all - draw a template, cut the plastic to size, stick them together into small units, then stick the small units together to make big units. It just seems so simple, and yet the whole magnitude of the project is breathtaking. A train shed at 2200mm - that's 2.2 metres ! Mind-blowing ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 What stuns me about this build is the sheer matter-of-factness about it all - draw a template, cut the plastic to size, stick them together into small units, then stick the small units together to make big units. It just seems so simple, and yet the whole magnitude of the project is breathtaking. A train shed at 2200mm - that's 2.2 metres ! Mind-blowing ! Hi, Stu If a job is worth doing and all that Was discussing with SWMBO about the method of moving the roof on its support base from my temporary modelling room down to the railway room (when it's ready) - the proposed support structure for the roof, etc. will be 2.4 metres long, 900mm wide and just under 500mm high with the roof in place Can't get through the door and down the corridor - angle too tight - so it's through the window - fully open it's 1200mm wide x 1100mm high and the apartment shower room next to the railway room (no windows) is 1200mm x 1350mm I think it's the reverse of building a boat in the basement Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Guessing this one will definitely come under the title of "layouts that never leave home" !!!!!!! (which will be a bit of a shame if honest) Top work once more! Nile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Guessing this one will definitely come under the title of "layouts that never leave home" !!!!!!! (which will be a bit of a shame if honest) Top work once more! Nile Hi Nile Thanks again It's such a structure top-heavy layout (no green scenic areas anywhere) that I couldn't even start to contemplate how it might be transportable (safely & securely to the UK and back) - the 'fiddle yards' will be completely separate layout boards at a different level to the main layout Looks like it's going to be maybe magazine articles and DVDs, when it's completed - until then it's going to be a continuous thread on RMWeb, so stay tuned There's always the chance of private viewings if you are ever over in Spain Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 After producing a couple of dozen basic frames for the transverse tie beams - have decided to modify the jig to incorporate the splayed lower ends and end vertical ties A stack of basic frames produced previously are on the left, and one of the frames produced on the modified jig is shown above the jig .. and a picture of a few of the spans, etc. under construction - ... to be continued >>>>> 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ha Ha Ha Ron!!! You mentioned transporting your precious cargo to the wrong person.... Ha Ha! There are indeed a couple of firms that I use for transporting kit to and from mainland europe who would'nt bat an eyelid over moving your layout. However they would only convey it if it was suitably cased. That said I have the numbers of some guys over here who create some fantastic flight cases for our gear and I daresay would quite enjoy the challenge of creating something capable of shipping your creation worldwide. There are however a number of down sides. the big one of course is cost. That said professionally made flight cases with custom jet cut, foam inserts, will last beyond the lifetime of your layout if looked after properly. The other drawback (and one that gets overlooked) is you have to have somewhere to store all those cases when they are not being used and judging by the size of your project you might possibly need to buy next door to do so. However. Show trucks run with air ride suspension and drivers who tend to understand that there are, on most occasions. Things in the back of the truck that don't like to get bounced around. As said, with Jet cut foam. Very accurate shapes can be cut to create inserts for cases, so as to gently caress your hard won or highly valuable stuff. Guess you would need to look at a major sponsor ship deal Ron. I can see it now..... The Pro Modelling exhibition circuit awaits. Milan, Madrid, Monaco........ Doncaster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 7, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) There's always the chance of private viewings...in Spain ...ears immediately prick up... That mock up is looking fantastic at present... Edited September 7, 2011 by bcnPete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hello Ron, bit of a daft question for you. It looks like that you use a plasticard jig for the beam supports etc. So how do you stop the supports from sticking to it when you apply the solvent. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ha Ha Ha Ron!!! You mentioned transporting your precious cargo to the wrong person.... Ha Ha! Hi, Nile Sounds like a travelling pop band or F! racing transport would be required I was only trying to say that it's not being built with the intention of being transportable for exhibitions, etc. - I am sure that if exhibiting it in the UK was the intent the whole layout baseboard, wiring/control, etc. would have to be designed completely differently, and even the operation with three different layout boards on different levels not even directly connected would be a problem Anyway, the offer of a private viewing is still there when the layout is complete Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 ...ears immediately prick up... That mock up is looking fantastic at present... Hi, Pete Thanks Just a slight break from plastic - It's woodworking from tomorrow and thro' the weekend I have the train shed support structure to build, and the temporary high level shelf for it to be stored on - four garden archways 2.5m wide and 2.2m high, and a 6m long x 2.2m high extension to the Wisteria support frame ... all structural stuff in wood - not some much COSTA BLANCA more COSTA FORTUNE So the fixing of the roof spans,etc. to the support structure will commence early next week Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hello Ron, bit of a daft question for you. It looks like that you use a plasticard jig for the beam supports etc. So how do you stop the supports from sticking to it when you apply the solvent. OzzyO. Hi, Ozzy A small brush with just a spot of solvent to tack the parts together - then remove from the jig, and brush a little more solvent on the opposite sides of the joints - on small area joints I always apply a little finger pressure on the joint to ensure a good quick weld - good blow of air evaporates any unwanted over flow of solvent beyond the joint The styrene/solvent will stick to almost anything, especially absorbent or media affected by solvents - on metal & glass a thin skin remains, so care is always required Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hello Ron! Yes.... Did appreciate that your intent was more of something a bit more for home pleasure..... Ha Ha! Although, as you say the model is represented across three unconnected boards. I think there would be enough of us who would agree that just means three lots of Ooooo's and Aaaaahhh's. This afternoon while doing a quick jaunt down to see Lucy at Modellers Mecca, it did cross my mind that if we could get every member of the Forum to stump up a quid each. That would be enough to organise Transport, cases and accommodation and some change for a round of beers, in time for the next RMWeb day! So pull your finger out Ron!!!!!!!!....... Ha Ha Ha! Cheers Nile. P.S. Yes the Formula 1 boys certainly know how to move their kit around, especially the Formula 1 TV guys. I used to think my kit was pretty well thought out. Have done a few jobs for various GP's and how their stuff is co-ordinated is just streets ahead of what I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 For those of you who cut a lot of styrene strip and at an angle, here is how I cut hundreds to length and at a consistent pre-set angle - The styrene angle offcut is glued by a light brush of solvent to the aluminium back strip The back stop is set to the length of the projected length ... and after 5 minutes over 75 pieces cut, ready to be fixed to the transverse tie beam frame as bracing pieces ... to be continued >>>>> 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2011 I bet you'd sell a few of those on here Ron ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Thanks Stu !! Are you in need of one or do you need the material/parts/cutting list and drawing to make one yourself ??? Just ask, and I will put them up on a separate thread Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2011 ...do you need the material/parts/cutting list and drawing to make one yourself ??? Just ask, and I will put them up on a separate thread That's a great idea - yes please ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Separate thread please Ron!!!! Not sure I would need right now but I can see a time coming and having it on a separate thread would make it easier to bookmark. if thats OK with you of course. Cheers Nile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Hi, Stu & Nile This is the link to the plans and parts list - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/33785-homemade-guillotine/page__view__findpost__p__482450 You may wish to view the previous post in this old thread Cheers Ron 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 All the wood for the temporary shelf / train shed roof support structure and all the garden features bought and stored in the workshop - The shelf is built and the support structure is all but complete -so the garden structures may be completed tomorrow, and then I will start fixing the train shed roof to its support structure span by span WIll post pictures of the construction (not the garden stuff) as it progresses >>>>> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Thanks Stu !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Interesting to watch your approach to a large overhead roof and the Lime Street approach. Both completely mad layouts but fascinating to watch - in awe and admiration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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