BobD Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I am currently looking at producing a small range of N gauge vehicles. These would be solid resin castings, which would require some finishing and painting. Honda Accord Chevrolet S-10 Blazer Ford Escort Jeep Cherokee Just wondering what people think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted February 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2011 If you could cast them in clear resin it would be good - solid grey painted windows stand out against vehicles with clear ones. Nice masters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Hello Bob, I take it that these are aimed at the U.S. market, given the 'Escort' and Accord which are both different to the U.K. versions (I have seen a US Escort here, actually a Mazda 323 variant only part related to the 1980 European one, but that was about 15 years ago). Are they going to be moulded in clear resin to match the Tomytec range? They look good. Are you moulding them yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calnefoxile Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I thought the 'Escort' looked wrong, now Bernie has pointed it out as the American one I can see it. Otherwise, they look good Bob, but please cast some British 70's & 80's vehicles. I was getting really excited about a Ford Escort. Also agree with Ian, clear resin would be brilliant if it's possible. Cheers Neal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 It is possible that the Escort may be 'Anglicised', but no guarantees. I would be casting these myself, under licence, from an American craftsman. We are exploring the best way in which we can work together. The initial release may be the normal opaque resin, but I am experimenting with clear resin. However, clear resin production is more labour intensive. The other model I have seen, which might be possible, is of a Chevrolet PT Cruiser. Sorry, no picture of this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted February 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 20, 2011 Hi, I would be casting these myself, under licence, from an American craftsman. We are exploring the best way in which we can work together. The initial release may be the normal opaque resin, but I am experimenting with clear resin. However, clear resin production is more labour intensive. Another 'vote' for clear castings, although one point needs clarifying; if these are American in origin are we looking at 1:160 or 1:148 scale, the difference would be significant Silly me, just re-read the subheading Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 As shown in the topic description. "N Gauge 1:150 to match the size of Tomytec" Hence the ongoing discussions with the modelmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 If you can crack clear casting, Bob, I could be interested in doing some cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 21, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2011 It would be good to see these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
definate maybe Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Thumbs up from me!, The development of N gauge on the railway side of things over the last few years has been major unfortunately the scenic and accessory side is still lagging well behind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Whilst these aren't of use to me, I'm very impressed by the quality of the master and casting Bob. If sales of these lead to porridge UK motors then I'll happily support them... 1100s, Cortinas, Vivas, Escorts or something like an Imp would be a nice selection. If a Mk.1 Cavalier became available you'd have a friend for life. Sorry, am I wishlisting? If you can crack clear casting, Bob, I could be interested in doing some cars. I'd be interested to hear how people get on. From my limited experimentation I've found that the clear resins are more geared up for larger volumes and smaller items take a good while to cure. Perhaps heating them would help along the reaction? Remember to throw some UV stabiliser in the mix though to stop the yellowing. Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 One of my early experiments with clear resin took nearly six months to cure.......... I have learned a lot since then and I hope the next stage of experimenting will pay off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 My feeling is much the same - clear resin without bubbles - yes, otherwise probably not. And yes - a cavalier, some cardboard boxes strewn around and a bunch of figures running across the rooftops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Very interesting and enterprising. Well done for taking the initiative and the first steps. However, it's a another 'clear' resin and British outline models vote from me. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 As seems to be the trend here, clear resin looks to be the way to try. As can be seen, the model maker has a high standard, which should enable me to produce good quality resin reproductions. If this does manage to get off the ground, I will be looking at other vehicles to increse the range. I am also looking at how to be able to produce some masters myself. It is too fine for Shapeways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Impressed by the masters Bob. I would prefer them as solid resin unless you can perfect the clear resin casting. I have always found that the hassle of masking clear resin for the paint job results in a poorer result than painting the windows of a solid casting an acceptable colour with a frame to guide the brush. There have been some clear resin horrors in the past in 1/76 and I have a 1/76 bus which had a solid shell but resin glazing which now has orange glazing despite display in a shady room. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I have always found that the hassle of masking clear resin for the paint job results in a poorer result than painting the windows of a solid casting an acceptable colour with a frame to guide the brush. Did you try using maskol painted on the windows (using the frame as a guide as you suggest) then spraying the body colour and peeling away the maskol? I would have thought that would be fairly easy and the approach I would try. To me there is no real acceptable 'colour' for solid windows as by their very nature they should be clear and see through. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted February 23, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi I'll add my vote for clear resin too. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Did you try using maskol painted on the windows (using the frame as a guide as you suggest) then spraying the body colour and peeling away the maskol? I would have thought that would be fairly easy and the approach I would try. To me there is no real acceptable 'colour' for solid windows as by their very nature they should be clear and see through. G. Grahame That is exactly what I have done. I suspect my problem was with the quality of the clear resin rather than my skill at masking, hence the reason I prefaced my original remarks with the quality that Bob can achieve in clear. A good quality clear casting (100% non-tacky, and totally immune from uv discolouration) would get my vote. In particular the windows need to be ripple free and as good as shown on the solid masters. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 The clear resin I have been experimenting with is supposed to be UV stable. However, I have just found out that the one I have been trying has become obsolete. So I will have to try the replacement. I shall be e-mailing my guy in the States to let him know about the general feedback and support for the possible project. I have been looking at some possible CAD designs with a view to see I can produce a suitable master myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I'd certainly be interested, the American features of the car models are not a big problem, ideally resin versions should be clear, but I know the problems that can cause so non clear ones would still be of interest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 Thanks to the feedback an here and elsewhere, I have now started discussions on cost. Which is proving interesting as he has only ever produced stuff for himself before and is undecided how to put a price to his work. However, we are talking and the most likely aproach will be to do one at a time and spread the introduction over a period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
essofal Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I am interested in all n gauge road vehicles i would be very interested in your models what are the prices and shipping charges for France thanks in advance for your reply essofal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
essofal Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I am interested in all n gauge road vehicles i would be very interested in your models what are the prices and shipping charges for France thanks in advance for your reply essofal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 I am interested in all n gauge road vehicles i would be very interested in your models what are the prices and shipping charges for France thanks in advance for your reply essofal Have replied to you PM. The resin cars are still a work in progress, probable cost of opaque resin version will be about £3.50/£4.00 Clear resin, if I am satisfied with the quality, will have a small premium, due to the additional work required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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