JeremyC Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I've tried looking for news about the Derby Lightweight DMU, the speed-whiskers version, but I must have missed seeing something. I would be grateful for an idea of when it's expected to reach the shops. Many thanks David The Bachmann website is showing Dec/Jan Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Many references omit DMBS E79076-82 and DTCL M79626-32 though these are listed in the 1959 Ian Allan Combined Volume. These may not have actually been built. M79076-82 were Metro-Cammell vehicles, as were E79047-75. M79626-32 were Metro-Cammell DTCs. E79263-91 were in the same lot from Metro-Cammell but built as DTS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted April 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2011 M79076-82 were Metro-Cammell vehicles, as were E79047-75. M79626-32 were Metro-Cammell DTCs. E79263-91 were in the same lot from Metro-Cammell but built as DTS. That'll be me misreading my repro 1959 Combined Volume - it was nearly midnight by then !! I'll edit the table. Sorry, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Here's a bit more Lightweight variety - one of the four-car sets (possibly two as it's an eight-car formation) with the motor composite nearest. Note the unusual window layout between the two doors. These vehicles had the first class in the middle. The train appears to be a tour, probably in the north east somewhere, but I have no idea where. This is one of the early, non-standard sets that went to the West Riding of Yorkshire. All were withdrawn in 1964. Note the different end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm thinking that top shot's in the Eden Valley somewhere or possibly West Cumberland. I think I see the merest hint of bars in the droplights! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm thinking that top shot's in the Eden Valley somewhere or possibly West Cumberland. I think I see the merest hint of bars in the droplights! Dave. There are no window bars. The set is clearly a NER 4-car one not a West Cumberland 2-car set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold LH&JC Posted June 12, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2011 It looks a bit like the approach to Goathland, but I'm certain someone will know better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I didn't realise the either that the NER operated these or that the Cumberland units were all two car jobs, Robert. Always something new to learn in this game! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Hi, Theres a picture of the first Derby Lightweight engineering prototype up on the Bachmann website: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/image_box.php?image=fp_images/large/DLW-EP.jpg&cat_no=DLW-EP&info=&width=650&height=172 Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Oh 'tis truly a thing of beauty. Slightly ungainly beauty perhaps, but beauty nonetheless. Thanks for the link, Simon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Oh 'tis truly a thing of beauty. It certainly is; I had my mitts all over one on Saturday and this first engineering prototype certainly captures the the feeling of openness, space and light within added to the splendid view into the cab. The chassis block only slightly protrudes from the guards area. Very, very seductive little thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well now we've had Bruce 62440 (who kens far more about diesels than he'd care admit) refer to Claytons aloft as 'Flying Greenhouses,' their amply glazed DMU counterpart is surely about to hit the shelves too. And if she's as seductive as I expect, she'll be gracing many, many more layouts than just the sizeable contingent who have already nailed our colours to the mast. I can see appeal in all livery combinations, capturing market share from deep in steam turf right through to my beloved Diesel Livery Transition Era. One of the most anticipated new releases of recent times - and while some might raise an eyebrow at that remark - I'd say reflect on this type's role in the Modernisation Plan, as literally the first bold step. I will need to borrow someone's froth bund as the anticipation takes hold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The engineering prototype appears to be a West Cumberland set - note large window next to van - this was seating on the real thing. The preserved LW is from this batch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 These vehicles had the first class in the middle. The train appears to be a tour, probably in the north east somewhere, but I have no idea where. Waskerley (Co. Durham) 10th April 1965. R.C.T.S. The North Eastern No.2 Rail Tour. Can't remember who the photographer was at the mo but I'll get there.... Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ427 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Hi, Theres a picture of the first Derby Lightweight engineering prototype up on the Bachmann website: http://www.Bachmann....=650&height=172 Simon Excellent. Been waiting for some tangible news of this for ages now. Wouldn't normally get excited about a DMU but that's on my xmas list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike tugsandsheds Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Does this mean we might get a Test Car Iris?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I can see appeal in all livery combinations, capturing market share from deep in steam turf right through to my beloved Diesel Livery Transition Era.I will need to borrow someone's froth bund as the anticipation takes hold. Oh indeed yes. Let us not forget that the Border Union Railway Co Ltd intended to use them on the reopened Waverley route. Now I wonder what livery they would have been repainted into? Re the froth bund. You can't borrow mine. It's saturated already. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Oh indeed yes. Let us not forget that the Border Union Railway Co Ltd intended to use them on the reopened Waverley route. Now I wonder what livery they would have been repainted into? Re the froth bund. You can't borrow mine. It's saturated already. Bernard To be honest Bernard, I was looking for a loan of Jamie's in the interim, but I think the poor lad's drowned Mention of their use by BURCo has in fact rendered me far, far worse. I had no idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Here, have some more froth! That looks exquisite and I don't know how I misseds the posting! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 To be honest Bernard, I was looking for a loan of Jamie's in the interim, but I think the poor lad's drowned Well the shot of 46467 almost did for me, but no. The pre-production shot does look good, but I'm not too fired up over these yet, until I revisit past threads. Short of a Swindon or Dr Foster set, they are what I've been waiting for MU-wise. Which reminds me of a job for this weekend... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Lo! He lives!!! Another one missing presumed reduced to a gibbering shell by the LW latest When I finally darkened my own threshold last night, an intrigued WAG asked 'what were those vast Hattons orders placed earlier?' (other box-shifters and local retailers are available) I had to explain that pre-orders differ from real orders (I fully expect joint pain in later life from spending so much time with fingers crossed at this dissembling sub-truth). Just hope she's not in when an order of the latter, tangible variety drops later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Does this mean we might get a Test Car Iris?? Iris is a single car unit of which there was only two made ever and iris was a conversion of one of these The Bachmann unit is a two car and I think it will be highly unlikely for them to do a single car If you want Iris there is DC Kits, Hurst converison and also the silver fox rtr offering HTH I do like the look of that, now do I wait for a four car version Cheers, Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 ...The Bachmann unit is a two car and I think it will be highly unlikely for them to do a single car ... I do like the look of that, now do I wait for a four car version That's some kind of optimism there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Not sure if these snippets of info are of usefulness or not. The first Derby Lightweights appeared in 1954 and each two-car set was powered for use on the severe gradients of the West Riding of Yorkshire. Being motorised, both cars carried the 1949-56 totem. All had one peice windscreens. A second batch was delivered towatrds the end on 1954. Instead of Leyland engines and torque convertor transmission, they had BUT (AEC) engines and a fluid flywheel and Wilson four-speed preselector gearbox (as on the GWR). There was only one power car per two-car set. More batches followed. Splitting of the windscreens appears to have been in two stages around the early 1960s, the initial stage being a bar inside of the windscreens. A stronger arrangement followed with an exterior bar, and special 'notched' windscreen wiper bars had to be fitted in order to clear this bar. Not all windscreens were split. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 That's some kind of optimism there Yes I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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