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Hi,

 

I'm new to the site and getting back to model railways after nearly 30 years.

 

Currently building an LMS 12 wheeler to be finished in Blood and Custard. Hoping to use Halfords spray cans but looking for a good match. I've visited RAF Kinloss MRC website and seen their colour match page. Problem is, it's a bit dated now as a lot of the colours are discontinued. I've picked up a Vauxhall Carmine Red as recommended but am stuck on the "custard" part. Beige does not feature very often in cars today! So no luck finding Vauxhall Gazelle Beige, or Talbot Jonquil. I was nervous at choosing Peugeot Antelope Beige as it looked a bit dark.

 

I must say the cap of the red I bought looks much too bright, but maybe the caps are a bad match for the paint.

 

Any ideas or recommendations would be very welcome.

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Thanks, Baby Deltic,

 

Unfortunately the thread ultimately finishes up with the list from RAF Kinloss MRC quoting the discontinued colours for BR coach stock cream, Talbot Jonquil and Vauxhall Gazelle Beige. So no further forward.

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Thanks fellas,

 

I've never heard of Hycote colours before now, so I'll chase after some.

 

 

Not sure if I wasn't looking properly but I didn't see a piccie of the finished paint job on the coach being built. I must admit to being a little cautious at the sprayed aircraft wing regarding the Gazelle Beige. It looks a bit too brown in the picture, but if gazelle Beige is what everyone reckons is the colour then so be it.

 

 

Thanks for your help.

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Alternatively if you want to stick with Halfords it seems to be available from other outlets, if not Halfords themselves. :unsure:

 

http://www.rockbottombikes.com/product/2/3726/Halfords-Vauxhall-Gazelle-Beige-Spray.html

 

Best advice I can give is to prime a scrap bit of plasticard and then spray with your chosen shade. Once dry you can hold it up against some stock for a genuine comparison without worrying about comparitive lighting etc.

 

The RAF Kinloss MRC list seems to be the default starting point when looking to use auto paints but it could well be worth experimenting. The best way to improve accepted wisdom is to question it. ;)

 

Halfords do about a dozen different shades of beige as well as some creams.

 

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&categoryId=165505&langId=-1&action=listrefine&constraints=teq%7C%7CColour%7C%7CBeige%7C%7Csor%7C%7CPrice%7C%7C1

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Crimson & Cream, Carmine & Cream, blood & Custard yeh.......But red and beige is a new one on me. B)

 

Might I suggest you look for a spraycan that closely matches Howes Railmatch 312 BR cream and 311 BR crimson.

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Karhedron,

 

Words of wisdom, indeed, but I'm desperately to avoid accumulating dozens of cans of "nearly there" but with one puff out of each!!

 

Coachmann,

 

Unbelievably beautiful picture! This shot had me going for some time (is it real?) before realising there would always be a slight amount of dirt on the bogies unless they were just outside the paintshop. I am guessing the backgound is a photo of the real thing - or am I seriously underestimating your structures modelling?

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Can I be cheeky and bump up this thread and ask which Halfords red[?] is suitable for BR post 1957 maroon please.

 

I've tried Ford Burgundy Red on my ex LNER Horsebox and it looks OK. Tried it on my Bullion Van over Halfords Red Primer and had to strip the thing as I messed up the 'passes' and it ran; should have used an air brush and proper paint!!:angry:

Having said this I'd take the advice of Coachman on whatever he uses as he gets such a fantastic finish. Geoff at Comet Models also gets a very good finish too and his 'retired' colleague Allan makes a fantastic job on his coaches (Geoff may be able to tell you Allan's secret recipe?)

Cheers, Phil @ 36E

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Just done a google on Vauxhall Gazelle Beige. Wilco reckon they have 61 units in stock.My link Carmine redMy link

The aerosols are Hycote, not Halfords, but the paint is probably an exact colour match.

 

 

Might be worth noting that my information (source lost in the mists of wayback) is that Hycote are Halfords paint suppliers, so you are almost certainly right on the colours matching.

 

Phil T.

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In the past, for 'Blood and Custard', I've used 'VW Tornado Red' and 'Lada Cream' (not sure if the latter is still available though). A mate, who is old enough to remember this livery told me he thought it was pretty well spot on. Several years ago, Tony Wright suggested 'Ford Burgandy Red' as a good match for BR Maroon. I've used this ever since and think it looks about right.

 

Hope this helps.

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is there a chart to show what best suits whatr railway colour

 

There's a list, if you'd refer back to post 2.

 

Larry,

 

Railmatch would be the ideal answer but I'm afraid I find their aerosols very prone to clog and stop working very quickly. Halfords (and Games workshop) don't suffer in the same way.

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Can I be cheeky and bump up this thread and ask which Halfords red[?] is suitable for BR post 1957 maroon please.

I used Vauxhall Burgundy Red for BR Maroon. You can see the results here.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/620/entry-6200-n-gauge-k40-full-brake-in-lined-maroon-livery-tpm-kit/

 

Railmatch would be the ideal answer but I'm afraid I find their aerosols very prone to clog and stop working very quickly. Halfords (and Games workshop) don't suffer in the same way.

I have had similar experiences. Halfords and GW both offer better value for money than more specialised aerosols and seem less prone to clogging. Halfords seem a good compromise for those who are not sure they wish to splash out on an airbrush.

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Try as I might, I can't get an acceptable finish out of any aerosol - only Halfords primers, and then probably because they are naturally matt.

However, a spray coat, rubbed back to a smooth finish and topped by a very thin brushed topcoat of the appropriate Railmatch/Precision/Humbrol enamel seems to give a good result.

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I used Vauxhall Burgundy Red for BR Maroon. You can see the results here.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/620/entry-6200-n-gauge-k40-full-brake-in-lined-maroon-livery-tpm-kit/

 

Well I've gone and bought some Hycote Double Acrylic in Ford burgendy red,I had an Orion in that colour, from Amazon.Will give it a go and maybe show the results. ;)

 

The Hycote sprays are available in 150mls so are perfect for those who don't always model their first choice period. :laugh:

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Railmatch would be the ideal answer but I'm afraid I find their aerosols very prone to clog and stop working very quickly. Halfords (and Games workshop) don't suffer in the same way.

Apologies, maybe I should have made myself clearer. I was suggesting using Howes Railmatch as a dry sample when looking for a suitable car airosil as a match.

 

My reasons for recommending Howes No.610 LMS crimson lake is on several counts. I obtained my lake from Derby Works 40 years ago. I supplied Howes with a sample when the Railmatch colours were being formulated. The No.610 is as close a match as makes no odds to the shade applied recently to the NRM 'Crab'.

 

The only rider I would add is the final shade depends very much on the colour of the undercoat/primer. Use red oxide, not grey.

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To add to what I said earlier, I am looking at a model coach that was sprayed with Halfords car paint some six years ago. It is within the accepted spectrum for LMS lake and has also been recommended by others on RMweb....

 

Halford Rover Damask Red spray paint.

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