Roy L S Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 A cracking looking model. Well done Dapol! Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2011 Is there a reason why there isn't a blue grey version, would have thought it would have sold more than either blue or NSE. Does anybody know if the NSE is early or late version? Because there's only so many liveries they can do at a time? There are plenty more to do: blue-grey Chiltern SWT Arriva Regional Railways RailTrack Carrilion Load Haul Kernow have already anounced a GW style chocolate & cream version. Enough to keep Dapol going for a year or two, I wonder how long for 3 and 4 car units based on these to be announced...(please!!!) From what Dapol Dave was saying at TINGS last weekend it's a distinct possibility. Fingers crossed. Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 To add to the list, at least one was white with a blue stripe (the early refurbished livery) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2011 Just a minor "anorakish" point guys 55017 was actually a class 122 rather than a class 121. This means the class 122 didn't have the 4 character headcode box on the roof dome, just the destination box at the gutter line and the 2 character headcode box under the windscreens. Now there's interesting - I was about to murmur something about 'invisible ink' only to look back through the thread and find that it was indeed invisible as an entire post of mine has vanished! So I wil repeat my points excluding the bit about the Gloucester built cars and note what a great job this is and being pernickety there are some interesting things around the area of the van doors - no silver paint on the handle of the second door and the Guard's door has incorrectly got hinges on the outside of the vehicle plus I don't even remember these cars with that much aluminium on show round the front of cab windows. But if some of that wasn't in a nicely enlarged pic I doubt I'd even notice it on the actual model - even if i didn't apply 'the Denny principle' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 ATW class 121 runs in Cardiff : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:121032_at_Cardiff_Queen_Street.jpg David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2011 That's just so impressive for the size it is - all wheel drive with all the passenger windows clear, something certain OO models can't manage . Well done Dapol It's getting harder & harder to resist moving to N with the quality of stock now available.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 That looks great, thanks for posting the images Andy. Here's to NSE livery, can't wait to get mine - just the thing to haul an old 2-car dummy Poole NSE 101! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2011 the picturesque Liskeard to Looe service pity one isnt ready in blue n grey yet.... Agreed...so I am glad I had pre-ordered a blue one as a stop gap... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Andy, What a great scoop for RM Web, and a good review too! I agree about about the sentiments relating to a lack of a Blue and Grey version, but Dapol have produced a real "little wonder" here, can I justify one in all over blue?? Does anybody know how long the all over BR blue livery lasted on the 121's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Does anybody know how long the all over BR blue livery lasted on the 121's? I believe that suburban DMUs like this remained blue until at least the late 70s (maybe later). This 105 was still in all-over blue in 1982. http://www.willitonstation.org.uk/gallery-2/gallery-5-1980-1989/# Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 There's evidence that W55024 was still in blue in October '79. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Then I need to look up one that worked in the Bristol area. This might be of interest to anyone planning on buying a green unit. Here are the units allocated to different depots in the 60s. Reading: W55020/21/22/23/24/30/31 Bristol Marsh Junction: W55028/32/33/35 Laira: W55016/27/29/34 Cardiff: W55025/26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 My reaction was couched in somewhat more pithy Anglo-Saxon than that...... Perhaps a bit bigger than a boxfile but St Jude in "N" is scarily tempting. Any indication of possible cost ? Stu Kernow MRC want £109 for their GW150 liveried single unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Any indication of possible cost ? Hattons have all liveries on pre-order for £82. I am sure other retailers will have similar prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 There's evidence that W55024 was still in blue in October '79. In that case I might have to go for an NSE version - or wait until a Blue and Grey version is released! The trouble is those pictures of the BR Blue look so tempting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Route learner ADB 975659, of the same class, was still all blue in 1984 (I've a picture of it at Hoo Junction of all places). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2011 This might be of interest to anyone planning on buying a green unit. Here are the units allocated to different depots in the 60s. Laira: W55016 Laira's W55016 was a 122. As has been pointed out though, there are only minor differences between this and a 121. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted September 16, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2011 Does anybody know how long the all over BR blue livery lasted on the 121's? Not quite, but a class 122 in all blue in Jan 1983 (final inspection train to Torrington) If you believe the caption, this 121 was still all blue in 1985 - can't zoom in much, but looks to be a long number though - could it be a departmental unit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Were 121s allocated to Scotland and if so what services did they operate and when, please? I am sure I have seen a photo of one or two in the Aberdeen area in the late 1970s or 1980s, but can't find them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 That's just so impressive for the size it is - all wheel drive with all the passenger windows clear, something certain OO models can't manage . Well done Dapol Dapol look to have moved on from their class 156, making a much better job of disguising the boxy nature of their underframe design. The box is a consequence of their decision to place the motor low down so as to enable them to have unobscured windows, but they seem to have managed to get impressive depth around the motor on the new 121 model when compared to the 156. In fairness, this is a tough compromise in N. When Dapol and Farish released their 156 and 150 at about the same time, Dapol went for a low motor, clear windows and a boxy underframe with very "flat" detailing, while Farish had a better underframe at the expense of the motor blocking out all the windows in one car. Judging from these photos, Dapol have managed to retain what was good about their previous design while improving what was less good by quite a lot. Looks like an impressive effort. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I remember riding on these units on the Stourbridge branch line. Looks like a great model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 When Dapol and Farish released their 156 and 150 at about the same time, Dapol went for a low motor, clear windows and a boxy underframe with very "flat" detailing, while Farish had a better underframe at the expense of the motor blocking out all the windows in one car. Judging from these photos, Dapol have managed to retain what was good about their previous design while improving what was less good by quite a lot. Looks like an impressive effort. Just to set the record straight, the Farish 150 (and the 108) had a new single-bogie mechanism which only blocks the windows in about half of one coach and seems to have adequate traction for the job. I believe the Bachmann 150 in 00 is the one with a full-length mechanism. I agree Dapol have done a first-rate job in concealing the motor while providing this level of underframe detail. Is this the best N gauge DMU yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Gauge David Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 It's getting harder & harder to resist moving to N with the quality of stock now available.... Well don't resist then - come on in, the water's fabulous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted September 18, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2011 It's getting harder & harder to resist moving to N with the quality of stock now available.... The future's bright, the future's N Gauge! Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I believe that suburban DMUs like this remained blue until at least the late 70s (maybe later). Just a follow up, I have exhumed Railcar.co.uk and some 121s were still in all-over blue as late as 1980. Have a rummage. http://web.archive.org/web/20100708163722/http://www.railcar.co.uk/Gallery/121vehicle.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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