RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2011 An enjoyable day from me too although I hardly saw any layouts! I blame Wetherspoons.... The environment has certainly been improved through widening the aisles and lengthening the space so there's a big + from me for that. Big plus from me too. Not been for a few years as I got tired of the previous scrums. This year was a big improvement, and the extra space meant all the moans about BO and rucksacks were much less of a issue. Big thumbs up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I did snap the Dark Prince of Photography though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2011 "He's not the dark prince...he's a very naughty boy" (sort of Life of Brian) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrush Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 First time I've been there both days (except when I've been stuck behind a layout). Although Saturday was crowded, it wasn't unbearable and today was very pleasant. Some excellent layouts, particularly scenically - and nice to see a good number of 0 gauge layouts. Amongst the 4mm layouts with 'scale' pretensions, there were several with the usual blind spots (corridor connections that don't touch, no loco fall plates, signals not present or not working or in the wrong places), but in the end that didn't matter because they were quickly passed by in favour of more time at Wibdenshaw! This is a superb example of what, in my personal opinion, a large exhibition layout should be and is immune to all but the most pedantic criticism. All in all, a very good show. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crantock Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Andy, Thats a superb photo and one he would be proud of. Great depth of focus, no background (photoshop?) and great pose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Is Chris related to Ron Atkinson? ( check the jewellery. Is there a medallion lurking underneath that top? ) .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 Andy, Thats a superb photo and one he would be proud of. Great depth of focus, no background (photoshop?) and great pose. All true. And we also learn that the subject has a copper bracelet - typically worn to ward off arthritic tendancies, for which he should have everyone's sympathy - but the important clue for us photographic numpties is the lens on his Nikon. Note the chrome ring near the body - it means it isn't autofocus. That and the posh lights give us a clue to CN's success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 Photography is all about light... a good source to pump it out and a decent lens to let it in - simple.... but you still got to take the shot B) ... but looking still further the lens looks like an old 50mm... but won't that reduce the focal length on a Nikon DLSR? Is that another part of the secret? (normally you want slightly more for portraiture) ... I'm a Olympus 4/3 user so I ask out of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 Enjoyed myself. I've never not liked Warley, sometimes it's a bit of a squeeze but I've always found something to make the trip worthwhile. Today I overshot the NEC turnoff and added an hour onto my journey by the time I'd got back down the M42 and braved the long tailback for the NEC entance but other than that it was plain sailing. I know I missed some good layouts, and there were one or two that I clocked and meant to return to later, but particular highlights for me were Wibdenshaw (although it was a struggle to get near it) and New Hey, as well as that lovely 2mm micro-layout with the Sentinel and J94 where I had an enjoyable chat with Andy Y). It's unfair to mention just a few when there were so many others, but those are the ones that come immediately to mind. I could have easily spent another hour easily but wanted to avoid the mad rush so left before 4.00, well pleased with my day out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Went up today. I wasn't disappointed with the show - the layouts and trade were fairly good. Spent a fortune on books. Nice to meet up with the usual crowd for a drink, plus meet a few new faces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2011 Photography is all about light... a good source to pump it out and a decent lens to let it in - simple.... but you still got to take the shot B) ... but looking still further the lens looks like an old 50mm... but won't that reduce the focal length on a Nikon DLSR? Is that another part of the secret? (normally you want slightly more for portraiture) ... I'm a Olympus 4/3 user so I ask out of interest. Photography is 'painting with light' as somebody said. If that's a crop frame SLR then the 50mm will be equivalent to around 75mm in full frame terms, which puts it in portrait lens territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 Photography is 'painting with light' as somebody said. If that's a crop frame SLR then the 50mm will be equivalent to around 75mm in full frame terms, which puts it in portrait lens territory. You're quite right of course... I'm a numpty who got his maths wrong ... it's similar to 4/3 - but you double it rather than add a half... but I should have got the gist. cheers Reason for edit... back peddling madly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 I suspect a 55mm f2.8. It stops down to f32, and becomes an 82.5 mm, which is in prime portrait territory. Just right for a Gresley Pacific! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 I suspect a 55mm f2.8. It stops down to f32, and becomes an 82.5 mm, which is in prime portrait territory. Just right for a Gresley Pacific! Standard lenses are noted for being quick. So should be great for am A4 at full chat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2011 I seem to recall from my film photography days that proper portrait lenses were designed to be a bit 'soft', which is probably not what you want when photographing 'our' kind of models ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2011 I did snap the Dark Prince of Photography though. I watched with interest as the Dapol bits and pieces were collected for photography in a Bachmann cardboard box............... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2011 I seem to recall from my film photography days that proper portrait lenses were designed to be a bit 'soft', which is probably not what you want when photographing 'our' kind of models ;-) Come to think of it that's very true... makes me remember an old trick I read about ...but I never had the guts or inclination to smear vaseline anywhere near one of my lenses... or anywhere else for that matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Nevard Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 It's a 55mm f2.8 Micro Nikkor - no softie but designed for optimum sharpness for technical close up work like this. The slight telephoto effect suits this kind of pack shot which is strictly representational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm startled nobody's posted pictures. My camera is misbehaving and may be on its last legs, but it still seems to be taking decent images when the lighting allows: Diesels in the Dutchy - outstanding Mannin Middle Inkerman St Crumley Epsom Portskerra A bit of a random selection , conditioned by the size of the show and the fact I don't normally photograph layouts I've photographed before (hence Broadford escaped the camera) As a final comment on the "price debate" some direct comparisons: Royal Shakespeare Company, Measure for Measure , Swan Theatre Stratford - £20 for a seat in Gallery 2 , restricted view ; programme £4 running time 3 hrs. Soup, sandwich and cake £11-50 English Heritage , admission to Audley End House and gardens £12-50 (admittedly I didn't pay as I have a membership, but the house takes about 45 mins to see , and I was away in not much more than 2 hours, though I didn't see much of the grounds and satellite attractions). Guidebook £3-99 Cream tea and slice of cake £7-65 Warley show - £11-50 + £8 car parking, for 8 hrs in the show ,1 course plus tea - £11-00. Guide £6-50 I didn't necessarily buy guides etc on all occasions but the comparatives are interesting. Warley is'nt out of line with other attractions - and you get about twice as long for your money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldlugger Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Photography is all about light... a good source to pump it out and a decent lens to let it in - simple.... but you still got to take the shot B) ... but looking still further the lens looks like an old 50mm... but won't that reduce the focal length on a Nikon DLSR? Is that another part of the secret? (normally you want slightly more for portraiture) ... I'm a Olympus 4/3 user so I ask out of interest. The camera Chris has will most likely have a DX lens format, by the looks of the model (unless it is a D700) that as you say, will change the focal length, due to the size of the sensor. The Nikon D3 range uses the newer full frame FX sensors and associated lenses which give virtually the same focal length as lenses used on 35mm film cameras. The professional Canon cameras use full frame sensors too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest oldlugger Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm startled nobody's posted pictures. My camera is misbehaving and may be on its last legs, but it still seems to be taking decent images when the lighting allows: Diesels in the Dutchy - outstanding Mannin Middle Inkerman St Crumley Epsom Portskerra A bit of a random selection , conditioned by the size of the show and the fact I don't normally photograph layouts I've photographed before (hence Broadford escaped the camera) As a final comment on the "price debate" some direct comparisons: Royal Shakespeare Company, Measure for Measure , Swan Theatre Stratford - £20 for a seat in Gallery 2 , restricted view ; programme £4 running time 3 hrs. Soup, sandwich and cake £11-50 English Heritage , admission to Audley End House and gardens £12-50 (admittedly I didn't pay as I have a membership, but the house takes about 45 mins to see , and I was away in not much more than 2 hours, though I didn't see much of the grounds and satellite attractions). Guidebook £3-99 Cream tea and slice of cake £7-65 Warley show - £11-50 + £8 car parking, for 8 hrs in the show ,1 course plus tea - £11-00. Guide £6-50 I didn't necessarily buy guides etc on all occasions but the comparatives are interesting. Warley is'nt out of line with other attractions - and you get about twice as long for your money Very nice photos Ravenser! I had no idea that the MRJ team layout, Inkerman Street was still around. I remember following its construction many years ago with great interest. I know that Paul Karau himself built some of this, with Gerry Beale, etc. Does anyone have any more photos of it? Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Lambton58 Posted November 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hi all Flying Pig and I went on Saturday. We went by train from Bletchley - a slow, but smooth run up. Ist trip on a Desiro - very impressive. Definitely easier and cheaper than driving. Didn't see everything; there is too much to see in one day and not everything is of interest. Despite the light, I was able to get reasonable photos and what follows is a selection of the things that appealed to us. First up - Teeside Steel (00) I was quite taken with this alternative use of an old sea trunk for a 2mm finescale model of the Liverpool Overhead Railway. My brother in law has his great grandfather's - it's his (very good!) drinks cabinet! Broadwater Junction (N gauge by the Warley club). YCAE - possibly one of the best 'small' layouts there. Ran and was operated well, looked great and green too as it was recycled from an old stager. Sadly this was its last outing. Inkerman Street. As neither FP nor I managed to get into the MRJ Show, we'd only read about this one before, so it was nice to see it for real. Impressed with the quality of the modelling and the way it's survived over the years. Disappointing though that it's lost the big warehouse/mill backdrop. Don't know if they were having problems with the old lady, but the running & operation wasn't as good as it deserved. New Hey. Another disappointment - this time due to the poor turnout of the operators. Why no tweed jackets? ;-) Lancashire pole dancing? Some of the new stuff - 'orribly good! Crumley & Little Wickhill - the Stealth-bomber. 'nuff said 1. And finally - Wibdenshaw - 'nuff said 2! Hope you like and this didn't use up too much bandwidth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstart Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hi I went on Saturday. Plenty of good layouts, and some interesting trade stands around. The lack of Squires probably saved my wallet a bit. The lighting was typical for most halls at the NEC (the hall the Focus photography show is held in seems to manage better lighting). More seating around this year. The professional Canon cameras use full frame sensors too. Minor point, but the Canon 1D (pro camera for sports use) uses a 1.3 crop factor. The 1DS (and a few prosumer cameras) use full frame sensors. The smaller sensor cameras will give a greater depth of field. All the best Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellwar Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 They are planning to produce some "mag-books" a bit like the ones you can get in Smiths about BR Blue etc. The first one will be a collection of the train formation diagrams from their modelling supplements - an excellent idea IMO. cheers Ben A. Thanks, ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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