bluex5 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Shame, no plain green example other than the glossy effort. I went for SYP weathered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Shame, no plain green example other than the glossy effort. Yes that disappointed me too, having been bitten once by the 'glossy' 33 which looked like tinplate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 There are more plain green ones planned in future batches which will be normal satin finish. These are all smaller batches than normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Shame, no plain green example other than the glossy effort. I went for SYP weathered. Its a strange one as Kernow have batch numbers 1600 to 1603 available to pre-order, 1600 being D8400 in plain green(not gloss). Hattons have batch numbers 1601 to 1605 where 1604 is D8409 in gloss plain green. Its strange that Hattons dont have 1600 in their list and Kernow don't have 1604 and 1605. I've obviously been looking to hard when trying to decide on the ones I want, has anyone else noticed this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 1600 (D8400 plain green) now showing at Hattons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 This is the official listing for the first batch: 1600 D8400 green/grey roof 1601 D8401 green/small yellow panel 1602 D8404 green/SF style yellow panels 1603 D8407 green/full yellow ends 1604 D8409 green/grey roof GLOSS 1605 D8405 green/small yellow ends WEATHERED - 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) D8400 Cohens Scrapyard Kettering 4.69 by George of Dufton, on Flickr D8403-D8402-D8400 Cohens Scrapyard Kettering 4.69 by George of Dufton, on Flickr D8403 Cohens Scrapyard Kettering 4.69 by George of Dufton, on Flickr Edited April 14, 2012 by Baby Deltic 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Cracking pictures, even if the subject is a bit sad. Pity somebody didn't pull one of those out and hide it somewhere....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Cracking pictures, even if the subject is a bit sad. Pity somebody didn't pull one of those out and hide it somewhere....... And the blue/grey 'porthole' coach. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) And the blue/grey 'porthole' coach. Yeah I was wondering about that. Its not a P3 LMS coach is it? Or were some Thompson ones like that? ( I really don't know me passenger stock!!!) Edited April 14, 2012 by D605Eagle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The apparent ducket and corridor door two windows down the coach side makes it either a P3 D.2123 BTK or Porthole D.2161 BTK, the round toilet window makes it the latter with little doubt and the deeper bodyside than end just comfirms it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper20059 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Any news on whats happening with this model ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On display at Warley was what looked like a test assembly. I make no claims to expertise on 16s but the general proportions, overall louvredness, spoked wheels etc. lent a general air of conviction to it. My gaze was mostly directed at the Baby Deltic in original oh-so-flaky-engine condition, but once I have that, there may be a space somewhere for an NBL shortly-to-be-scrap-metal type 1 to join the various other shortlived pilot scheme failures of which there were a plenitude hovering in the KX area... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 From another thread: Class 16, a wee bit dark, but proportionately here she is: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 From another thread: These are a few shots I took of the first engineering prototype whilst being tested on my layout. There were a few errors which have now been sorted and the one we see shown at Warley is the third EP which has now been passed for production subject to rectification of two minor body issues. I have put these on here to give you a better idea of what detail is in the grilles etc. Please excuse the dust and the dead ladybird on the track!! 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscarne Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 And here she is... What are the outstanding issues please Brush?? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEngineShed Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 An oddity that I have just noticed while studying prototype photos and comparing them to the Heljan model. I've looked at about 40 Class 16 photos and the following seems to hold true. On the prototype the bottom edges of the sliding cab side windows on the left and right sides appear to be different! Assuming your left and right as you look towards the cooling group end: One the left side of the cab, the bottom edges of the cab end windows, sliding cab side windows, and door window all appear to have bottom edges that line up. This looks like the Heljan Class 16. c. 1959 - Temple Mills Yard by 53A Models, on Flickr On the right side, it appears that the sliding cab side windows are deeper and extend further down than the cab end windows or cab door windows. See the linked photo: http://www.flickr.co...N02/6295427264/ Is it possible that North British made the sliding cab side windows different heights on the respective sides? I can't imagine what the purpose of making the sliding windows different heights on each side would be... <scratching of head> It looks like a fine model, I can't wait for my pre-order to arrive... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hi Engine Shed I have not noticed this before, but not all locos had this feature. A quick 5 minutes check found D8400 http://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6294897073/in/set-72157628044457026 and D8402 in post 183 have cab windows that line up with the door and end window. Clive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That Hi Engine Shed I have not noticed this before, but not all locos had this feature. A quick 5 minutes check found D8400 http://www.flickr.co...157628044457026 and D8402 in post 183 have cab windows that line up with the door and end window. Clive That is illustrated if you look closely at te line up in Baby Deltic's post #183. The first loco has the deeper window whereas the second in line appears to have the shallower window that lines up with the others. The third loco is facing the wrong way for comparison! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 28, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2012 Differing cabside window depths indicate tablet catcher equipment as per the EE type 1's, maybe somewhere in the initial specification this was required? Just a thought. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2012 D8407 appears to have this deeper window on the other side. http://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6294898815/in/set-72157628044457026/ Differing cabside window depths indicate tablet catcher equipment as per the EE type 1's, maybe somewhere in the initial specification this was required? Just a thought. Mike. Hi Mike I am not sure that there was a need for tablet exchange apparatus on the GE lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I have not gone too far in my search but I have found that D8406, D8407 and D8408 had the larger window on the left hand side, when looking from the cab to the radiator. D8406 and D8408 had a small window on the right hand side. http://www.rmweb.co....dnt-transition/ There seems to be no hard and fast rule about which side had the larger window or if the loco had one. Well spotted Engine Shed. Edited November 28, 2012 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 28, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2012 D8407 appears to have this deeper window on the other side. http://www.flickr.co...57628044457026/ Hi Mike I am not sure that there was a need for tablet exchange apparatus on the GE lines. There was on the M&GN, who knows where they were originally intended for? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) An extract from the Class 16 information sheet which I compiled for the models. . During 1962/3 all received the obligatory yellow warning panels on the nose ends with D8404,6 and 8 having the access panel on No.2 end painted yellow rather than above the buffer beam. During the end of their lives’ the livery was changed slightly to incorporate a full yellow nose end with D8400-3,6-8 being so treated. All retained their ‘D’ numbers and non received the double arrow emblem. Non were painted blue. Little in the way of visual modifications were applied and these were carried out in 1965 concentrating around the removal of the side grilles on the external resistor cabinets in front of the cabs to prevent water ingress and the replacement of the cab sliding windows with slightly deeper units on all but D8400,2 & 4, the original Perspex sliders having the tendancy to fall out on the track! Hope this is of interest' We chose to adopt the original style cab side windows as this is applicable to all loco's in the class. As they say "It is easier to take material away than to put it back". Edited November 28, 2012 by BrushVeteran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 And here she is... What are the outstanding issues please Brush?? Nothing major, just a bit of QC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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