RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2013 Nice to see yet more heavy engineering by the Lord Lunester again! I wish I could get on with wood as well as you Jeff, but it just doesn't like me! Andy I love building these structures, Andy. Jason was trying to get me to build a road overbridge for months - I really wanted to do it for the fun of the construction. It never came off, so the chance to build the bridges/aqueduct was too good to miss. If only I could fit another viaduct in. Hang on, couldn't we have the Lune Dam, right in the middle of the Fell!! And I mustn't forget Simon's air vent in the vicinity of the tunnel! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2013 A bit more engineering! Strips of 3mm ply - 2 deep - fixed to the front fascia board to represent the vertical pier supports at either side of the portal. When the PVA is dry I'dd add the next layer. And so on... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) The list may be endless, but isn't it fun buying the damn things? We must appear insane to the outider who doesn't see the attraction!! Jeff Hi all in relation to what has happened to poor Jenny, and NOW FOR A SECOND TIME in as many days having her Layout TRASHED is trully dispicable and we MUST ensure our stock is properly secure and insured for NEW for OLD. Andy EDIT = SORRY Jeff for being serious and off Topic for a moment, but she is such a nice person and we had a chat at the GCR Nottingham show last year and she is so enthusiastic about her layouts, she is a gem. Edited April 15, 2013 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 A bit more engineering! Strips of 3mm ply - 2 deep - fixed to the front fascia board to represent the vertical pier supports at either side of the portal. 100_2960.JPG When the PVA is dry I'dd add the next layer. And so on... Jeff Evening Jeff the bridge bits look good mate, you are so clever at first drawing them (although I came top of the class in Technicle Drawing at School) and then cutting them out of wood and hey look just like the drawing, BRILLIANT STUFF. Bodge the Bodger not the Lodger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi all in relation to what has happened to poor Jenny, and NOW FOR A SECOND TIME in as many days having her Layout TRASHED is trully dispicable and we MUST ensure our stock is properly secure and insured for NEW for OLD. Andy EDIT = SORRY Jeff for being serious and off Topic for a moment, but she is such a nice person and we had a chat at the GCR Nottingham show last year and she is so enthusiastic about her layouts, she is a gem. No need to apologise Andy. I was really shocked when you mentioned it in the Lounge last night. In fact, I've been thinking a few times today of what the British "justice" system should do to the perpetrators. It involves saying goodbye to private parts FOR STARTERS. Really makes you think. What Max Stafford (Dave) said on Jenny's thread would sum up the feelings of most of us. Until they change the law you aren't responsible for what your dogs do to people - as in the death of the 14 year old girl recently. Maybe we should all have a bull mastiff or two for any trespassers? No, Andy. You are NOT off topic. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2013 Evening Jeff the bridge bits look good mate, you are so clever at first drawing them (although I came top of the class in Technicle Drawing at School) and then cutting them out of wood and hey look just like the drawing, BRILLIANT STUFF. Bodge the Bodger not the Lodger. Back ON topic, I'm sat with the dried bridge bits planning out how to fit the arch rings, stringer courses and stonework. Should be ok, but I need 80thou plain plastikard for best effect - just ordered some. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2013 Two not particularly fantastic photos showing the first bits of plastikard stuck onto the fascia... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted April 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2013 Thats coming along nicely Jeff Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2013 Morning Jeff, I can see what you're up to now, just was a bit confused by talk of cattle creeps and tunnels. Regarding Jenny, I am just glad I opted for the loft rather than a shed in the garden, but then some folks do not get the choice and while in a perfect world we shouldn't have to think about security, we don't live in a perfect world. Humans are the most greedy creatures on the planet and as my old grand-dad used to say, hungry when their bellies are full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Morning Jeff, I can see what you're up to now, just was a bit confused by talk of cattle creeps and tunnels. Regarding Jenny, I am just glad I opted for the loft rather than a shed in the garden, but then some folks do not get the choice and while in a perfect world we shouldn't have to think about security, we don't live in a perfect world. Humans are the most greedy creatures on the planet and as my old grand-dad used to say, hungry when their bellies are full. Glad you've now received clarification and enlightenment, Jonathan!! What annoys me about some people is their inability to cope with someone having something that they haven't - even when it's clear that the person has worked very hard to get that something. And the urge to destroy just for the sake of it seems to be an inbuilt human trait. Anyway, hope to create a bit more on the bridges today. No specific schedule - we'll see what (if anything!) happens. Jeff Edited April 16, 2013 by Physicsman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 Quick update to show the front of the bridge I've been working on. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted April 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 I like it Jeff. Told you that scratchbuilding was addictive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 I like it Jeff. Told you that scratchbuilding was addictive Yes Jason, it certainly is! Didn't believe you when you said it before the viaduct. After that.... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 Jeff, have you got a production line going for the bridges? So when you have got to a stage where you need to let it dry, you have the other to get on with... Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 The bridge has to "carry" a dirt track as well as the aqueduct. The width from maps and photos is around the 26' - 30' mark. To give myself space I've gone for the upper end. The first 2 photos show the bridges size - it will have a 6mm "deck", as shown. This isn't attached at the mo - for illustrative purposes only! Here is the main line bridge in its operating position along with a little "traffic"... Off to do a bit of Chemistry/Physics tutoring in a minute, so I'll maybe start on the other fascia later tonight. Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 Jeff, have you got a production line going for the bridges? So when you have got to a stage where you need to let it dry, you have the other to get on with... Andy Kind of.... There's a lot of 3mm ply cutting here, so I do that while the glue dries. I'm now onto evostik which is a lot faster than PVA. I find that evostik bonds plastikard to wood extremely well. PVA works too - it just takes ages to cure. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 Before I go, I'll say "Hi Chip!" I hope the photos are to your liking!! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Jeff That's looking good. The attention to detail is realy showing. The way you're going with scratch building, it won't be long before you tackle a wagon or two and then a loco. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipster Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Before I go, I'll say "Hi Chip!" I hope the photos are to your liking!! Jeff Hi Jeff They most certainly are, loving them. The way you go about these projects is fantastic, you make it look so easy. Very very impressed Seeing the results you get from building your bridges and viaducts is brilliant, one day I'll maybe pluck up the courage and have a go myself. Also Duncan's "rusty" water tower is so realistic. Keep up the splendid work and I'll keep lurking Chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Hi Jeff, Just having a 'look in' to check on your civil engineering progress as promised.......looking good. I must have missed the detail on Jenny's problems and I sympathise with her entirely. The problem is; insurance will not cover you once you get anything worthwhile to cover. As soon as you detail a figure of about say £20k for model railway items they shudder and the get-out clauses are dictated verbatim. We 'OO' modellers have it bad enough but just consider those who model in 'O' or Gauge '1' Bloody frightening! Good security is the best answer, something like 250v to the doors and windows works for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Hi Jeff, I am NOT A HAPPY BUNNY :nono: The more I see your scratch building with the Viaduct and now that Bridge the more I want to have a go next time. George and you have a lot to answer for. Disgruntled of Swad :no: :no: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 Hi Jeff, Just having a 'look in' to check on your civil engineering progress as promised.......looking good. I must have missed the detail on Jenny's problems and I sympathise with her entirely. The problem is; insurance will not cover you once you get anything worthwhile to cover. As soon as you detail a figure of about say £20k for model railway items they shudder and the get-out clauses are dictated verbatim. We 'OO' modellers have it bad enough but just consider those who model in 'O' or Gauge '1' Bloody frightening! Good security is the best answer, something like 250v to the doors and windows works for me! What you say is quite correct, Mike. Though I'd prefer to apply 250V (or more) to certain anatomical parts of anyone caught in the act. Having said that, I'm sure the pet rotweiler would be partial to some sweetmeats!! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 Hi Jeff, I am NOT A HAPPY BUNNY :nono: The more I see your scratch building with the Viaduct and now that Bridge the more I want to have a go next time. George and you have a lot to answer for. Disgruntled of Swad :no: :no: Hi Jeff They most certainly are, loving them. The way you go about these projects is fantastic, you make it look so easy. Very very impressed Seeing the results you get from building your bridges and viaducts is brilliant, one day I'll maybe pluck up the courage and have a go myself. Also Duncan's "rusty" water tower is so realistic. Keep up the splendid work and I'll keep lurking Chip. There's a simple key to all of this. Break the structure down into lots of simple elements, then assemble the elements together (It was Al who gave me this pearl of wisdom, btw). Before the viaduct I'd have run a mile. But with a step-by-step approach, most structures can be made to resemble the prototype. Andy - what you achieve with your backscenes and layout plans is just as "difficult". I suppose we all enjoy different things. I've got a Hornby model of Dent Station. It's very nice - bought it last summer and was going to use it on KL. Wouldn't dream of doing so now. Why? Well, the detail I can achieve won't be as good as the Hornby. But mine will be unique, with the character I put into it. And great fun to build! We all make mistakes - for instance, I ripped the stone facing off the fascia this morning and did it again. It looked ok at 1am, but in daylight I wasn't happy with it. We should never be afraid to make mistakes - and learn from them. Btw Andy. I'm an amateur compared to George and Jason!! Chip - keep lurking and, hopefully, enjoying. I appreciate your comments. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted April 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 I wouldn't be so sure about not being able to better the Skaledale model Jeff. I haven't seen one up close admittedly but if it is like the ones I have seen then you should be able to better it. Of course, in a few months time, I will be able to give you hands on tutorials when I venture up the motorway with boxes full of locos and stock After that will come passing on the knowledge of hacking Black Fives to bits, weathering (if I have mastered it by then), track building, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2013 I wouldn't be so sure about not being able to better the Skaledale model Jeff. I haven't seen one up close admittedly but if it is like the ones I have seen then you should be able to better it. Of course, in a few months time, I will be able to give you hands on tutorials when I venture up the motorway with boxes full of locos and stock After that will come passing on the knowledge of hacking Black Fives to bits, weathering (if I have mastered it by then), track building, etc. With that in mind Jason, the immortal words from The Clash spring to mind... "Should I stay or should I go now?" !! It'll be fun to improve and learn new skills..... I hope!! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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