James90012 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-207-county-of-east-sussex-in-gatwick-express-livery-olivias-exclusive/ Olivias have announced that if you pre order by August 1st you'll yet the 73 for 125. After then it'll be 140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted August 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2015 Any sign of these yet? I've been patient for years and not been at all worried about the wait but now they're on final approach the wait is killing me, weird that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Dapol show them as "released" in August, but Hatton's progress chart shows them as still at pre-production stage. No-one seems to be showing them as "for sale" in stock or imminent delivery for sure. But then, this is exactly what happened with the Hornby Blue/Grey 4 VEP - Hornby kept saying they were on the way, no-one advertised them as imminent, and suddenly they were sold out, until Hattons obtained millions (perhaps I exaggerate a little) at Arthur Daly prices and knocked them out for about half price, but sold out within weeks. Be vigilant everyone - I only pre-ordered one to see if they were so much better than the Lima ones that I should replace my entire fleet but now fear I may get VEP'd.....why is this hobby so stressful now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) I've been told September 2015. We'll see. Edited August 4, 2015 by Tase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I waited patiently for this from announcement right up until last month and then changed scale and continent. Sorry Dapol... I'm not particularly impatient but I much prefer the old days when something was announced and then it simply arrived in the shops a short time later. "Pre-orders", "crowd funding", "announcements years in advance of production" etc etc... nope, not for me. Humbug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted August 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) I have just bought a Hornby (ex Lima but better motor) one to repaint into Southern livery. back to old school modelling as I will add the detail myself. Still waiting for the N scale Gaugemaster exclusive ones ordered over a year ago. Edited August 4, 2015 by roundhouse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Despite being the one to highlight the olivias price change I missed the bandwagon -typical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Pre-Production images on Kernow's website: 73102 Intercity 73105 BR Large logo blue 73124 BR Blue 73138 Dutch Grey/Yellow Regards, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Was going to get 124 but looks to have a headlight and numbers a bit big. Like the inter city one now tho !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted August 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2015 There seems to be something going on with the BR typeface used for the numbers - they seem a bit big and squashed. Now it has been helpfully pointed out by someone on a model railway forum, I'm sure it will be rectified before production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When I first saw the images on Gaugemaster's email this afternoon I asked myself why a class 73 in BR blue should have a high intensity headlight? The only answer that came to mind was that this particular loco had been repainted into BR blue later in its life. This contradicts with its reincarnation first as 73205 and then as 73962 (Source: Wikipedia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's resolved the headlight issue then and the Intercity one doesn't have one, as per the prototype! There was mention in the Rail Express Modeller that pictured the blue one that the numbers would be altered as they were wrong, so they might be different on the final models if these are pre-production ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When I first saw the images on Gaugemaster's email this afternoon I asked myself why a class 73 in BR blue should have a high intensity headlight? The only answer that came to mind was that this particular loco had been repainted into BR blue later in its life. This contradicts with its reincarnation first as 73205 and then as 73962 (Source: Wikipedia). There's possibly been an error in the instructions at the factory for 73124 and 73138; the former shouldn't have a headlight and the latter should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Images of other painted ones on the Gaugemaster site. Looks like the only headlight error is with 73124: http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DA4D-006-004&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Dapol+4D%2D006%2D004 http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DA4D-006-005&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Dapol+4D%2D006%2D005 http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DA4D-006-007&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Dapol+4D%2D006%2D007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Out of interest were all of the 73s painted out of BR Blue prior to being fitted with head lamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Out of interest were all of the 73s painted out of BR Blue prior to being fitted with head lamps? The only BR blue 73s with headlight I know of are modern repaints: 73119 West Brompton by Ryan Taylor, on Flickr 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Was going to get 124 but looks to have a headlight and numbers a bit big. Like the inter city one now tho !! 73135 should also be available in BR blue, but there's no picture yet: http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=179_298_301_529 http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=DA4D-006-003&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Dapol+4D%2D006%2D003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Was going to get 124 but looks to have a headlight and numbers a bit big. Like the inter city one now tho !! Nevermind the over large numbers on 73 102, surely the livery application is fundamentally wrong?? Look at the position of the nameplate and BR logo? Am I missing something? https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul-green-photography/8172219332/ http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/37834/4D-006-000-Dapol-Class-73-Electro-Diesel-Locomotive-73-102 Edited August 4, 2015 by WILLIAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nevermind the over large numbers on 73 102, surely the livery application is fundamentally wrong?? Look at the position of the nameplate and BR logo? Am I missing something? https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul-green-photography/8172219332/ http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/37834/4D-006-000-Dapol-Class-73-Electro-Diesel-Locomotive-73-102 Apart from the livery and headlamp issue's, this 73 just doesn't look right to me. Think I'll be keeping hold of my old Lima versions (remotored) for some time !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nevermind the over large numbers on 73 102, surely the livery application is fundamentally wrong?? Look at the position of the nameplate and BR logo? Am I missing something? https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul-green-photography/8172219332/ http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/37834/4D-006-000-Dapol-Class-73-Electro-Diesel-Locomotive-73-102 Oh dear, you're right. As these are supposed to be pre-production models (post #384 above), let's hope the error was caught. Otherwise it's Dutch and Large Logo versions for me at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Apart from the livery and headlamp issue's, this 73 just doesn't look right to me. Think I'll be keeping hold of my old Lima versions (remotored) for some time !!! It could be the photos on the Kernow site; they do look better in the Gaugemaster pictures, less "squashed" perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The 1992 version of the 73138 Dutch livery should have a cantrail stripe, depot plaque, BR arrow under the number and black colouring around the grilles: 73138 at Reading by jon33040, on Flickr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nevermind the over large numbers on 73 102, surely the livery application is fundamentally wrong?? Look at the position of the nameplate and BR logo? Am I missing something? https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul-green-photography/8172219332/ http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/37834/4D-006-000-Dapol-Class-73-Electro-Diesel-Locomotive-73-102 Not to mention: 1) Size and positioning of red/white stripes (too high and red should be wider than white - not equal sized) 2) Warning panel is wrong yellow (they've used an early and it should be late) 3) Lower warning panel should be higher: flush with the bottom of the side window. This would then highlight the handrails properly: there is not enough yellow showing above the horizontal handrails. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Apart from the livery and headlamp issue's, this 73 just doesn't look right to me. Think I'll be keeping hold of my old Lima versions (remotored) for some time !!! Fully agree with this comment. There's something not quite right about it. I had plans to sell all my 73's and replace them with Dapol ones but I think I am going to have a good look at them before making a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Calm down people....... These are "Pre-production Models" with a paint job. It has already been stated that Dapol are aware of the issues with typeface and it will be corrected on the models that hit the shops. I would hope that they would also be aware of the correct livery specifications and have compared them very carefully with published images and informed their production people about the errors. When they hit the shops and they're painted bright orange and have LMS emblazoned across them, then you can complain. But until then............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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