westerner Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Remember that beauty/ ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Remember that beauty/ ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Or in this case beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 ^^Beer. Making ugly people look desirable since 1389. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted June 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2016 ^^ Beer. Making ugly people look desirable since 1389. Yes, thank goodness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2016 ^^ Beer. Making ugly people look desirable since 1389. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 In an odd way, the more ugly a model looks the more interesting it look. One reason , apart from a couple of models, I prefer urban industrial scenes for my layouts. I almost take offense at those saying any Bullied loco, in particular the Q1 is ugly, as Bullied grew up locally, and his way of doing things inspireing-ly different is a local thing. What many see as not being ugly is often boring, and one thing I try to be is not boring with my models. More likely to get noticed when you do something different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 In an odd way, the more ugly a model looks the more interesting it look. ...What many see as not being ugly is often boring... There are boring hackneyed maxims like "What looks right is right" "Form follows function" So nominations please for ugly but undoubtedly successful locomotives ? I'd nominate an Austrian Golsdorf compound or an FS Crocodile. (and a Brush class 47 as the most boring looking successful loco) dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45059 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Without having read the previous 9 odd pages, I'd nominate the split box class 37s. Although less aesthetically pleasing than their later built centre headcode brethren, or perhaps even the flush fronted refurbished 37/5 & 7 models, they remain my favourites. And although before my time, the same applies for the 600 series Warships. I personally prefer the look of them with the later added 'boxes. As for out and out ugly though, it seems it has taken until the present day for an especially ugly class to 'grace' our metals. So sinful in appearance that they're even known as Fugleys! No need for the warning panel- they frighten people away upon site... (My only suggestion to remedy their look would to use a form of 'dazzle camouflage' by painting the silhouette of a prettier loco on the side!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Now the type 10 is crying out to be modelled. It looks like the designer forgot something...! Why do I have this strange feeling that you're going to have a go at this!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted June 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2016 Why do I have this strange feeling that you're going to have a go at this!? Never mind all the others, you've got me going now! It would make a fine model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Having googled "split box class 37", they just look like another "box on wheels" to me..... I quite like Crocodiles, I remember seeing one in service and being much impressed by it. Agree about the Golsdorf compound, though...Central European locomotives seem to have an aesthetic which isn't accessible to British eyes.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2016 Ugly? Just Google Coffin Feedwater Heater to see what a bolt-on goodie can do to spoil visual qualities on a steam loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 There are boring hackneyed maxims like "What looks right is right" "Form follows function" So nominations please for ugly but undoubtedly successful locomotives ? I'd nominate an Austrian Golsdorf compound or an FS Crocodile. (and a Brush class 47 as the most boring looking successful loco) dh A lot of people here consider the appearance of American and other foreign locos to be ugly, whilst some were undoubtedly very successful.Ugly and successful? I'm not that keen on the appearance of the early SR EMUs, or even BRs efforts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 A lot of people here consider the appearance of American and other foreign locos to be ugly, whilst some were undoubtedly very successful. Ugly and successful? I'm not that keen on the appearance of the early SR EMUs, or even BRs efforts. Shays for instance? Amazing that they ever actually worked! And over the flimsiest of improvised forest railroad trusses across deep ravines. They have a look of being one of the more eccentric entries for the Rainhill trials. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Personally I quite like the aesthetics of American locomotives. They were certainly taken quite seriously by their designers, which appears quite untrue of most German and other East European steam types Shays are different, that's all that can be said. Any and all geared steam locos look pretty weird, one way or another, although I do rather like Heislers.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Ugly? Just Google Coffin Feedwater Heater to see what a bolt-on goodie can do to spoil visual qualities on a steam loco. I've come to appreciate locomotives with lots of plumbing but I wouldn't call them pretty. They do look purposeful in a post-steam punk kind of way. The Coffin versions don't look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I've come to appreciate locomotives with lots of plumbing but I wouldn't call them pretty. You have to admit these extremist images are well beyond pretty dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2016 You have to admit these extremist images are well beyond pretty dh O Winston Link's flash technique does rather make a picture out of a photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 O Winston Link's flash technique does rather make a picture out of a photo. and rather upstages a pannier creeping along Weymouth quay ! dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 You have to admit these extremist images are well beyond pretty The big N&W articulated locomotives are magnificent. And there are some fabulous models of them. BLI's Class A and Y6b are terrific models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Just skimmed this thread, and would like to add a thought: to me, it seems that for something to be truly ugly, it must be evident that someone put a bit of effort into trying beautify it, and failed miserably. Like a cauliflower-eared boxer wearing red lipstick. That is why the Class 70 looks horrible. If they'd just designed it as "pure engineering", it would probably have looked fine, in a purposeful fashion, but somebody has clearly had a crack at "softening" it. The 4-COR emu gets a mention above, and to me that isn't ugly, just utterly, unpretentiously, functional, ditto the Q1 and a lot of the other "non-beautiful" things discussed. K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I don't know about "tried to beautify it". East European locomotives often give me the impression of being disproportionate, of being made from parts which are not only from different originals, but not to the same scale... It's like the confusing, garish liveries applied to the assorted "boxes-on-wheels" Multiple Units, often with cheap-looking interiors and primary-colour handrails inside, that rattle about our secondary services. Bad design, yes; lumbered with the thankless task of promoting a corporate image no-one cares about, to a disinterested public, probably; but ugly? No, not ugly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I've just googled "class 70" and it's a freakish looking thing, isn't it? Don't know about "ugly" but certainly unattractive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 Neither 'ugly' nor 'pretty...'top heavy looking' maybe..! ' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 Neither 'ugly' nor 'pretty...'top heavy looking' maybe..! 99 7242-3 Harz.JPG ' If they model that in rtr then I hope it comes with the "detailing pack" already fitted! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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