RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2013 Modelling skills AND sartorial elegance! Some of us simply have no hope! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Remember the seep holes in the new wall. They'd probably have made sure that there was a rubble base for drainage between the new and old walls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2013 And now my favourite bit..green stuff... And mine .Its coming along nicely.Good luck with the forthcoming shows with showing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 Nice shirt ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Nice shirt ! Should have gone to Specsavers if you're going to say that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thursday evening the box was sprayed with cream acrylic paint, then last night I made a start on brush painting the red bits: a bit more red needed in a few places, think the window frames should be white, roof needs painting; then I just need to add the planks for the walk way and glaze. not sure I'll have time to do the name board before Donny show, that might have to be added later (as will the interior details). 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 Think we need to turn the layout through 180degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natalie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Hi Nice to see another LNWR box getting built. I realise that it is a bit late now but wondered if you were familiar with Hinckley box on the Nuneaton- Leicester line. This too was located on the side of an embankment and had a base which extended into the ground. This was made of brick and featured several arches at its base where it went into the ground. Now all the time I worked the box (1980s) it was a standard brick type 4 with 2+2+2+2 windows on front (can't remember which size classification) and had 30 levers. According to Foster in 'LNWR Signalling' Hinckley had previously been a wooden box and had its base replaced by bricks- which to me looked like any other type 4 brick base. I did have the forsight to take a photo or two from the rear of the box showing this base but as I'm still not at home I don't have access to it so am unable to share it with you. Unfortunately like all but one of my ex boxes it has been reduced to a pile of rubble so can't even get some nice new digitial shots to show you what I am on about. For the life of me I can't remember off hand what colour it was painted- but it did come under Leicester S&T at the time- but can tell you that we had a Wilton carpet inside and inside shoes were banned. It survived until the infamous fire of January 1986 and was stored unservicable (the carpet that is) following the efforts of the local fire brigade who empited their water tender over it as the put out the fire in the roof- behind the metal plate behind the stove- that had been caused by a stray spark from the chimney. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Right then, over the last week or so, I have been scouring the t'internet, and my books at home for pictures and plans of water towers. It seems to me that they fall into two distinct types, these being the 'traditional' type (utilitarian) with a metal tank atop a metal framework cross braced with the tank made up of individual panels, or the style where some long forgotten Victorian water works,, engineering company or architect wished to make a bold statement re their wealth and of course importance. These were often elaborate affairs, in brick, stone and block, with windows, gargoyles, slated roofs or cunningly designed domes, with the aim of defeating future modeler's attempts to copy them! So, for the layout I have opted to go for the first, as I feel it would 'fit in' better with the layout as it seems to be developing. One idea is to fabricate the model up from plastic sheet, H and I and T beam sections and wire, along with some tubing, glue and a bit of cussing thrown in for good measure. I have roughed out a couple of ideas, just ideas and as I was doing so realised that the best thing to do when fabricating the model would be to produce 'templates' for the super structure, thus allowing any number or height of 'legs' to be built. The following will give you a sort of rough, (very rough) idea....... Edit: Hmmmmmm for some reason I cant upload word documents or piccies! Edited February 2, 2013 by BlackRat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2013 I saw this today, and for some reason thought of you lot... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks Stubby I had seen that site with does give some useful info but I am trying to find out more about their latter days and ultimate demise. Just thought with all this assembled Black Country nous someone mught know more! Regards Mike Just in case anybody is interested, I have answered my own question by discovering Bantocks were acquired by the B.T.C. in December 1953 Regards Mike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 I saw this today, and for some reason thought of you lot... pub_sign.jpg But the pies cost £1.50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 There is also the Bachmann Scenecraft one catalogue no. 44-097. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arthur Posted February 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks for the encouragement chaps, it's much appreciated. Keith, it's really the Solvaset which finishes off the decals so well, they look like they're painted on. Well, it's finished, weathered, and considerably less bright. Weathering. One of the reasons these Yorkshire designs were so popular was that they were solidly built and well able to stand up to the arduous nature of steelworks duties. Life was hard and dirty, so weathering is essential. There are plenty of books and videos on the art of weathering. Personal favourites are those by Tim Shackleton and the techniques I used are largely based on Tims methods. I oversprayed the body with a weak mix of matt black, gunmetal and a touch of rust. Whilst still wet it was brushed in a downwards direction with a thinners dampened brush. Cotton buds, also dampened with thinners, were also used This removed much of the grime from the flat surfaces but left it in the nooks and crannies. A second coat was sprayed over the lower extremities, the buffer beams and the roof. Again the dampened brush was used to remove some of it and to work it into other parts. After drying for 24 hours, weathering powders, in dark grey and rust, were then used sparingly to highlight brake blocks, exhausts and grilles as appropriate. With that done, it was onto the final details. Glazing from clear sheet, Smiths coupling hooks, buffer heads and screen wipers soldered up from bits of wire. The cab inner had already been painted a duck egg green and the resin control cabinet was painted and glued on the cab front panel. A driver was modified from a Slaters figure. I had a choice of Larry Grayson.... But I went with the other chap, a bit of a ladies man, his bouffant hair and Zapata moustache suggest he may style himself on 70’s fashion icon, Jason King; You didn't expect that.... Oh yes, the headlights.... Part 2. I painted the backing in gloss silver. Now, using a cocktail stick, I placed some blobs of white PVA glue onto each lens, and drying clear, they make a nice lens. They were given a final coat of Kleer. One fitting peculiar to some steelworks locomotives is the ingot casting car buffer which is mounted centrally, and beneath, the standard buffers. It’s used in conjunction with low profile ingot casting cars which carrying ingot moulds and ingots. Now, although at the time frame modelled Trafalgar Works is purely a rolling mill, its fictional history has it losing steel making, and ingot casting, facilities in 1971. This locomotive, supplied in the 1950s, would probably have been equipped to work with casting cars and could have retained the buffers for a few years after they had become redundant. These were simple fabrications in plastic strip and section. So, what does it do when not working the exchange sidings?, well I've tracked down some photos of it at work in 1970, when Trafalgar works still had a open hearth melting shop. Here's No. 5 hauling slag ladles out of the casting bay towards the slag bank; and propelling ingots from the striping bay and on to the soaking pits; All that remains is the fitting of the decoder, tomorrow, and it'll be posted off on Monday I'll post some final photos and thoughts on Monday. TBC 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gringo Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 What a beauty, Arthur - and that's from a steam fan! Thanks for all the effort that you've put into the locomotive and the BCB project. And having Jason King on the footplate. That brings back memories too. I had a mate who used to look like that! All the very best, John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Jason King? I thought it was Englebert Humperdink! Lovely bit of modelling, well done. Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Here's No. 5 hauling slag ladles out of the casting bay towards the slag bank; I read that as 'hauling slag ladies out of the casting bay' - wondered if there was a casting couch in there...!! Sorry.... Back to reality - fantastic little shunter Arthur, the weathering really brings an already superb model to life! Keith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 There are a couple of photos of Hinckley here and here. It's an interesting (and very sturdy looking) brick base - not so sure about the double glazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 I read that as 'hauling slag ladies out of the casting bay' - wondered if there was a casting couch in there...!! Sorry.... Back to reality - fantastic little shunter Arthur, the weathering really brings an already superb model to life! Keith Are they wearing high VIZ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 There is also the Bachmann Scenecraft one catalogue no. 44-097. That's cheating! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 Time for a few more scenic updates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 Made some wingwalls for the industrial bridge. These will fit over the top of the foamboard base and will be attached with double-sided sticky. I've kept them separate so that they can be primed and painted off-board and it's something less to mask when doing the green stuff. Here's one of them. My FIL, Mike, was press-ganged into making lots of copings. With the help of Mike we wrapped up the bridge in clingfilm. It then went outside for spraying All sprayed up ready for fitting. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 We also did a load more hole filing around the bases of the structures... Tarted around with Nige's bottom lock area (oo-er missus) Put some foamboard in to make the base of the road. My helper at work: 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 And this is where we have got up to. Tomorrow will be adding the green! 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted February 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2013 Should have gone to Specsavers if you're going to say that. D has one just like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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