gr.king Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pictures and description of the home-brewed drive shaft extension would be of interest, along with findings regarding its performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Just about to set off for Warley but just had to share this with you... Turned up at the hire place to find they'd allocated me a LO-roof transit van, with all others booked out. I knew that 'O'-level in Transit van packing would come in useful some day. Like something out of the Krypton Factor... But it's all in! See you there... Edited November 21, 2014 by LNER4479 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Blimey. That's.. what? Four boards? Better sort out the pantechnicon for next September. I don't fancy poor old Harvey's seat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Just about to set off for Warley but just had to share this with you... IMG_2515.JPG Turned up at the hire place to find they'd allocated me a LO-roof transit van, with all others booked out. I knew that 'O'-level in Transit van packing would come in useful some day. Like something out of the Krypton Factor... But it's all in! See you there... Hope you're remembered how it all goes in so you can repack it after the show!!!! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Pictures and description of the home-brewed drive shaft extension would be of interest, along with findings regarding its performance.Graham,I will post full details when I get a chance, though it may be after Sunday. I busy fettling the beast as time permits. Keep an eye on the other Forum as well, as it may appear there first, especially if I'm up in the night like last night! Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
61070 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Just about to set off for Warley but just had to share this with you... Turned up at the hire place to find they'd allocated me a LO-roof transit van, with all others booked out. I knew that 'O'-level in Transit van packing would come in useful some day. Like something out of the Krypton Factor... But it's all in! See you there... Mind to shut the van doors and hide that box, else people travelling behind you could panic, thinking they've run out of shopping days... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 21, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'm concerned that you have left the miniature commode on pole device in the back of the van; bottom (sorry) left. What happens then if there is a traffic Jam on the M42? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Graham, I will post full details when I get a chance, though it may be after Sunday. I busy fettling the beast as time permits. Keep an eye on the other Forum as well, as it may appear there first, especially if I'm up in the night like last night! Paul Just a quick post for Mr King and anyone else who might be interested. The Worm gear has been fitted to a new drive shaft. A bearing with retaining plate has been produced to fit in the back of the gearbox housing. The section of tube is the drive shaft connector, which is retained with two 8BA screws as clamps. Finally an additional motor bracket to keep the motor in place now that it is 29mm behind the gearbox. It has been installed and it does work, which was a surprise, considering the Agricultural engineering involved!!!! I would post the photo of the assembled driveshaft, but Yahoo Mail is playing up at the moment Paul 4475 p.s. You'll find me at Warley with Robert the Devil on Sunday. Look out for the big track straightener!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Well a week to go (to Warley) so time for some last minute progress / preparations. IMG_2448.JPG First job is to add some ballast to platform 5 (which is beginning to look conspicuously bare in photos). But before I do that, I wanted to replace the fixed uncoupling magnet with an electromagnetic version, as too many vehicles were uncoupling when they weren't supposed to(!) So everything is unceremoniously removed and ripped up. IMG_2449.JPG Meanwhile, Mr Scenery returned for a welcome visit and, having expressed satisfaction at the newly-installed geology, wastes no time in covering it. IMG_2450.JPG Aarrggh! IMG_2451.JPG Obviously unimpressed, scenic work continues undisturbed. IMG_2452.JPG Electromagnet prepared and hole ready IMG_2456.JPG Flock drying after first application. A fence has appeared. I can tell you're not very interested in the uncoupler... IMG_2457.JPG Uncoupler installed and track restored into position. A piece of grey card has been positioned immediately below the track to protect the electromagnetic gubbins from the imminent downpour of PVA and granite chippings. IMG_2458.JPG This now allows the ballasting to be undertaken IMG_2459.JPG Oh go on then - another 'green' shot. This is after the excess has been hovered off. Looking OK innit? IMG_2470.JPG I was quite pleased with how the ballasting turned out. Station pilot and solitary coach sit over the nice-n-hidden uncoupler (which I'm pleased to report works fine - thought I'd spare you the wiring-up details) More to follow, but I need to take a couple more photos yet so that's all for now folks Hi very nice work indeed. Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Waiting in a siding near Grantham.... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted November 21, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2014 And in my day was the way to get from work to the Railway Club for a "quenching refreshment" , not necessarily the Blue Bull , though of course the "club" would'nt be there in the 30's . I remember the old Club - we had our wedding reception there, 4th February 1978 after getting married at St Wulframs - it rained all day ! Wife's Grandfather was George Craft who worked at the station. . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Very interesting to see (some of) it in the flesh at the show today - the modified track spacing gives an excellent impression and the signals were a SPAD sight to behold. Many thanks for showing it and nice to have a chance to chat to 4479 himself. Edit to correct typos - I hope Edited November 23, 2014 by The Stationmaster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I had a quick look today good to see some proper locos and no doubt I'll have another look tomorrow as I'm not far away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Wot? No NEC photos yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingscotsmanfan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Just sitting in front of Grantham as I type this, I was impressed by the pictures but in real life it is captivating. I look forward to seeing the whole layout as it just so happens to be the right period for me. Not to mention lots of nice stock. Keep up the great work Edited November 23, 2014 by Flyingscotsmanfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Nice to have time today and just stand and gawp enthuse with no pressure to be somewhere else in the hall. Also good to finally put a face to a name..... Looking forward to seeing the whole layout at Grantham. All the best. Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Well I have just spent a very busy day working Grantham Station panel at Warley. I was made very welcome by Mr & Mrs Robert the Devil and also by Simon. It was rather intense at times and after the initial training and occasional reminder, we settled down to regular movements required for operating as a terminus. Most delicate operation of all was the reversing of a loaded coal train through the North Junction ladder from platform 2 onto the Down Notts line. I did this about half a dozen times and only on two occasions did the same wagon in the rake misbehave, but it was caught in time. As for the Mountain, it runs, ratherly quietly and yes, she fits on the turntable. Unfortunately, the pick ups need adjusting and the power connection to the tender refitting, she is also slightly cab heavy, but all part of the process. The desired effect was achieved, with several observers query as what locomotive she is? It was noticeable how many questions were being asked about the track, many not believing that it is Peco code 100 with foam underlay. We have the feeling that at least one modeller was going to go home and rip up his track and start again. The general reaction to Grantham is very positive and I for one, will be more than happy to continue to be part of the operating team. Finally, one for Mr King, the research folder now has an extract from the 1947 Sectional Appendix for Grantham, including all the whistle codes for all the possible shunt moves. It will definitely put anyone off DCC sound if you were to slavishly follow it! Goodnight all Paul 4475 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted November 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2014 Good to see Grantham and yourself in the flesh today, and as I flicked a switch on the panel did that make me an operator Looking really good and looking forward to seeing it fully. Dave.....Chris....Dave.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This will be up there with other big layouts in the future. Excellent work, even though just a small section was on display. Regards Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) PICTURES FROM AN EXHIBITION Phew! Just coming round from a tiring but exhilarating weekend (just dropped off the hire van). More in hope than expectation, took the camera with me; fortunately, due to slight surfeit of operators on the Saturday, I was able to take a few snaps that day. They really were just 'snaps' though so apologies in advance for the lower-than-normal quality: General(-ish) view of us set up and operating in the demonstration area. Off scene (to the left) was the 90deg bend into the first two boards of the fiddle yard, which allowed us to operate quite effectively as a fiddle yard to terminus configuration. The depot operator (LNER4479 senior) appears to be having difficulty in making himself heard(!) At the main controls (oblivious to his calls) is my long time railway colleague Andrew Burchell who, as expected, had the main control panel sussed in an instant and - aside from the usual trading of insults(!) - was able to give lots of valuable feedback during the day. Demonstrator's viewpoint (this was where I was to be found most of the time). Two star attractions here, both the work of other people: in the foreground, Mr King (3279)'s iron ore rake (now with loads), including his own quite beautiful resin cast Appleby-Frodingham hopper wagons; in the background Paul Bolton's nearly-complete Lee & Grinling warehouse, instantly recognised by those visitors who knew the Grantham of old. Harvey (Head of Security) looks on in the background! Obviously a busy day for running-in turns off Donny works! A brace of P2's grace Grantham shed, again the work of Mr King (those of you who have been following his own thread(s) will need no introduction to these machines). Naturally, they ran as well as they looked. Also given a spin was 3279's 'fresh off works' 4 x 4 Atlantic. Hidden from view, is the cunning gear train driving the rear (Cartazzi) axle. This also ran beautifully. If I may also be permitted to give a mention to the turntable(!) which behaved impeccably all weekend and also attracted interest and gracious comments. Despite the somewhat basic optical alignment arrangement(!) I don't believe anything actually derailed itself in the process of mounting and departing from the turntable deck which was quite pleasing. The signs are therefore promising that this should work quite well as a focal point at the very front of the layout. Thanks to all the above RMWebbers who have already commented - it was great to meet you all and put faces to names. I'm tempted to try and list others who I saw and / or who were kind enough to come up and say 'hi' - but I'd almost certainly miss someone out so can we just say 'you know who you are'(!) Also great to be surrounded by other 'experts' including Mike Edge and Mick Bryan (New Bryford), not to forget the over-seeing presence of Herr DemonstratorFuhrer himself Barry O! My grateful thanks to my various helpers throughout the weekend; in addition in the above-mentioned, Paul (Flying Fox 34F) yesterday (who also took to the panel instantly) - many apologies therefore that the camera-man was absent whilst the Mountain visited the shed - and also Simon Roberts who was able to stay on after show finish for the thankless task of pack-up (and was thus was a life saver). And of course, not forgetting Mrs4479! Finally, looking ahead, I was pleased to 'seal the deal' on the one remaining 'tentative' enquiry for 2016. So I can now reveal the forward programme for the layout's future show appearances as a full layout: Grantham Rail Show (September 2015) (as already declared) Stafford (February 2016) Nottingham (March 2016) Woking (REC Farnborough) (September 2016) Warley November 2016) In additional Graham (Great Central) Clarke has invited us to bring mini-Grantham (ie exactly as it was at Warley) to the 2015 Nottingham show and Barry would like us to do 'something' again for Warley next year - so there hopefully there should be a reasonable spread of opportunities to meet up with us if you were unable to make Warley this time round. Onwards and upwards... Edited November 24, 2014 by LNER4479 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Have you painted some of the temporary surfaces green or did the lighting just give it a funny cast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Have you painted some of the temporary surfaces green or did the lighting just give it a funny cast? Lighting was not overly bright so camera was struggling - in auto mode it was typically 20th sec on ISO640 - so that's probably got as much to do with it as anything. Nothing was temporarily painted green! The only 'temp' thing of that ilk was the corrugated card backscene which was painted light blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Grantham was one of my highlights, before I had to make a hasty and unplanned early exit. I've seen Mini G and Midi G, now eagerly awaiting seeing Full G next year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2014 A positive success... but Harvey looks concerned .. had he spotted a sound fitted Type 2 on the track(!)... runs and hides! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 A positive success... but Harvey looks concerned .. had he spotted a sound fitted Type 2 on the track(!)... runs and hides! He probably thinks he's seeing things, with that big blue bunny in the background... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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