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HI all,

 

 Came across a couple of interesting things on You Tube....

 

“Ian Nairn Across Britain - From Leeds into Scotland Pt. 1” 

https://youtu.be/h3H6XtYTx24

 

“Ian Nairn Across Britain - From Leeds into Scotland Pt. 2”

https://youtu.be/TeZlabluu10

 

Includes footage from Carlisle over the Waverley Route to Edinburgh.

 

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HI all,

 

 Came across a couple of interesting things on You Tube....

 

“Ian Nairn Across Britain - From Leeds into Scotland Pt. 1” 

https://youtu.be/h3H6XtYTx24

 

“Ian Nairn Across Britain - From Leeds into Scotland Pt. 2”

https://youtu.be/TeZlabluu10

 

Includes footage from Carlisle over the Waverley Route to Edinburgh.

 

Thanks

 

You've just reminded me that I posted up a section of this on Youtube as well, almost 4 years ago!

 

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I recently purchased Bruce McCartney's new book, "Memories of Lost Border Railways"  and recommend it to all Waverley Route fans. It features numerous railway stories written by locals illustrating how much the line was part of the many communities in the various areas served by it and also in their individual lives. In addition there are a great many excellent photographs.

 

Copies are available from Bruce, (see his web site thread here).

 

A must for your library!

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Thank you for that video of Ian Nairn.

A great hero of mine. As a first year Liverpool student I assisted in mounting his famous exhibition 'Subtopia' in 1956; it had a huge effect on me.

But a very sad personal story - rather like his contemporary Tony Hancock - he had no sense of his own worth and drank himself to death at only 53.

At least he never saw the shambles of rail Privatisation.

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That second photo i'm sure is actually copyright of the WRHA? Could be wrong - need Mr Stoddon on the case!

I know the photo you're thinking, but I'm pretty sure this isn't it. You're thinking of the photo showing 70033 in a similar position, which is copyright WRHA Archive. It has been used by the BBC (with permission) amongst others.

 

Not sure of the original photographer of several of those photos, suffice to say that there is the odd name that has only started appearing recently, particularly on that specific website.

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No harm can come from repeating this here, for those who haven't seen it.  Incredible footage of 1966 BRCW and 2S52 at Melrose and Gala, but even more essential are the environs, especially Gala station garden, footbridge and forecourt.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyOZFUzuFPE

... and a perfect accompaniment to this is provided at https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=55892

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... and a perfect accompaniment to this is provided at https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=55892

 

 

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Or this one from George Kinghorn's photographs - the Gala pilot D3878 in charge of the coaches for the filming!  Thanks to Dougie Squance for making Kinghorn's photographs available.

 

 

EDIT: As 08711 this loco is languishing withdrawn in Tees Yard at the time of writing.  'Chard

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Or this one from George Kinghorn's photographs - the Gala pilot in charge of the coaches for the filming!  Thanks to Dougie Squance for making Kinghorn's photographs available.

 

Yes, lots of fascinating stuff here.  I reckon 25 Sept 1966 was a Sunday and wondered if the train filmed at Galashiels was specially staged, as there’s nothing obviously suitable in my 1966 timetable – the Kinghorn pic confirms that, and explains why the film doesn’t actually show the train arriving !  Don’t suppose anyone’s got the relevant Special Traffic Notice from back then?  The train arriving at Melrose could however have been filmed at any time and might be the 09.20 from Carlisle (note the tail traffic).  It looked to have the standard WR 4-coach diesel-era BSK/SK/CK/BSK formation, although the SK appeared to be an ex-LMS one. It might have been September but clearly the steam heating was working.  At Gala, the carriage roof-board on the BR Mk.1 SK saying "London - Leeds - Edinburgh" (more visible in the film footage) looked like a clever piece of attention to detail by the film-makers, to convey the idea that the lad was travelling from way down south….

 

 

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Certainly the train at Gala is posed.  There are only three coaches, there are 'extras' chatting on the platform and obscuring the view, and the heaps of parcels are props, albeit in vaguely the same place that the GPO vans would routinely collect them.  It would be very interesting to know the nature of the local working that got them there, presumably paid for by the production company.  

 

It's also amazing to think that Gala had a pilot as late as '66, the yard presumably still generating sufficient traffic after the Selkirk trip had finished two years previously.

 

The Melrose filming is completely unconnected in my estimation - the interior shots of the boys' interaction would almost certainly have been filmed elsewhere, probably at Gala.

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It's also amazing to think that Gala had a pilot as late as '66, the yard presumably still generating sufficient traffic after the Selkirk trip had finished two years previously.

 

 

In fact Gala still had a pilot until (at least) March 1968 to work the yard and also the Kelso branch.

 

The last 350HP freight to Kelso took some loaded coal wagons there,  so the Hawick pilot, a Clayton, cleared out the yard at Kelso after closure.  At least that's what the bloke on duty at the station said the following week when I took along some photos.  We'd stuck the name "Borderer" near the cab (as well as Ian Fergusson's headboard) on the locomotive.  

 

I think there was a local freight working between Hawick and Galashiels using the Hawick Clayton in the dying years, but maybe someone can confirm that.  I'm sure there's one of the late Robin Barbour photos showing two 350HP diesels in Galashiels shed, I think along with a mothballed A4. It may very well be on Railscot.

 

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.... I'm sure there's one of the late Robin Barbour photos showing two 350HP diesels in Galashiels shed, I think along with a mothballed A4. It may very well be on Railscot.

 

Bruce

 

These may be the ones you mention - https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=27942 and

https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=25189

 

Is there a note of the numbers of the 350s anywhere?

 

Alasdair

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