RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said: It is possible to get good quality US beer, I am very partial to a bottle or six of Samuel Adams Boston Lager Which in my opinion tastes like a good IPA rather than a lager. Are we Brits so good at beermaking that we can preach to the rest of the world, after all we are the group of countries that gave the world Carling, Tennants, Watneys Red Barrel and other chemical concoctions. And why is every so called foreign brand made in the UK using home grown products so that it tastes nothing like the original recipe? Jim Badge Engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, skipepsi said: Badge Engineering? There is an episode of the Simpsons that featured a plant tour of the "Duff" brewery, showing a massive tank of anonymous lager feeding into different pipes leading to the various brand variations. I often wonder if this reflects real life at an InBev plant with one basic recipe being fed into several different branded canning operations, wouldn't be surprised Jim. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 54 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said: And why is every so called foreign brand made in the UK using home grown products so that it tastes nothing like the original recipe? Because the brewers have determined the tastes of the local drinkers and produce according to those tastes so that their products will sell and make money. Producing a different, new taste and spending money to convince drinkers to try that new taste is a risky tactic. It happens, in my opinion, everywhere. Versions of US beers produced in Canada are different from the originals - I actually prefer the taste of the US versions in some cases. A Canadian version of Tennants Lager used to be available in a pub near where I worked in Vancouver - it tasted just like a Canadian beer and nothing like the original. This applies to other products too, which can have different ‘local’ flavours. For example Canadian Coca Cola had a different formula from the US version, though I believe they are now more similar than they were. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I have found Pete Brown's books on beer production and pub/bar culture very educational and would heartily recommend; "Man Walks Into Pub", "Miracle Brew" and "Three Sheets to the Wind" as worthwhile reads. I enjoy traditional British and Continental beers, but the chemical lager enjoyed by so many nowadays leaves me cold. Perhaps it is popular simply as a means to get drunk, rather than enjoy the flavour a well crafted beer provides. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Jol Wilkinson said: I enjoy traditional British and Continental beers, but the chemical lager enjoyed by so many nowadays leaves me cold. Perhaps it is popular simply as a means to get drunk, rather than enjoy the flavour a well crafted beer provides. Seconded, only more so, if that makes sense. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 03:50, melmerby said: You're not missing much! When I first came to Oz in 1971, I lived in Melbourne, in those days you could just about buy only Carlton and United products: Carlton Draught Fosters Lager Vic Bitter Abotts Lager Melbourne Bitter and maybe a couple I have forgotten..........I could not tell the difference between them, they were drinkable, cold and refreshing in the heat. Since moving to South Australia, I found Coopers beers fairly decent for affordable everyday drinking but there has been an explosion of "boutique breweries" here and to my mind the product is OK but not worth double the price. Every now and again I try a couple of different ones just for a change. Mike 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: It is possible to get good quality US beer, I am very partial to a bottle or six of Samuel Adams Boston Lager Which in my opinion tastes like a good IPA rather than a lager. Are we Brits so good at beermaking that we can preach to the rest of the world, after all we are the group of countries that gave the world Carling, Tennants, Watneys Red Barrel and other chemical concoctions. And why is every so called foreign brand made in the UK using home grown products so that it tastes nothing like the original recipe? Jim I am pretty certain that the blame for Carling "beers/lagers" cannot be laid at the UK's door. Fairly sure they originated in Scandinavia somewhere. steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: And why is every so called foreign brand made in the UK using home grown products so that it tastes nothing like the original recipe? Jim Not all For some time now Beck's has been brewed back in Bremen, after going through a period of "German Brewing Heritage" from Luton or some other such chemical works. Proper Budweiser is still brewed in Budejovice, several other top brands are still made where they should be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, steve1 said: I am pretty certain that the blame for Carling "beers/lagers" cannot be laid at the UK's door. Fairly sure they originated in Scandinavia somewhere. steve The Carling family originated in Yorkshire, moved to Canada in the early 1800s, setting up a brewery in London, Ontario (according to Wakkypedia). Carling Black Label was introduced into the UK market in 1952 and things have gone steadily downhill since then. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I can't help think of that old joke. Princess Di walked in to a bar and orders a pint of larger. The barman ask will Carling do! I will get my coat Marc 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2020 13 hours ago, melmerby said: Not all For some time now Beck's has been brewed back in Bremen, after going through a period of "German Brewing Heritage" from Luton or some other such chemical works. Proper Budweiser is still brewed in Budejovice, several other top brands are still made where they should be. Continuing the off topic trend... Tesco currently have a Clubcard offer on 6-pack 330ml cans of Budweiser Budvar and Pilsner Urquell - 2 for £9. Last year I bought a 12-bottle pack of Carlsberg Export and found one bottle had a San Miguel cap. They assured me the bottle contained Export and sent me a £5 voucher to apologise. I believe that Carlsberg Export is brewed in Northampton along with a number of other lagers but that there is a weekly shipment of the hops mix from Denmark. I have never tasted Export in Denmark, so I have no baseline against which to compare. Most of the time I drink what supermarkets now classify as 'ale', but it's good to have some lager in stock and, for me, it goes better with spicy food than ales, even IPAs. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterfgf Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 08:50, luckymucklebackit said: It is possible to get good quality US beer, I am very partial to a bottle or six of Samuel Adams Boston Lager Which in my opinion tastes like a good IPA rather than a lager. Are we Brits so good at beermaking that we can preach to the rest of the world, after all we are the group of countries that gave the world Carling, Tennants, Watneys Red Barrel and other chemical concoctions. And why is every so called foreign brand made in the UK using home grown products so that it tastes nothing like the original recipe? Jim Agreed, there are some good USA beers, but perhaps form the smaller specialist brewers (but not sure how big Samuel Adams are). I've also had some decent beer in Canada - Halifax comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 This made me smile this morning, any of them as good as some of the high brow so-called 'art' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-54959423 10 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2020 Christmas Covid song from a friend of a friend of a friend. Made me smile anyway. https://m.facebook.com/groups/526702634947172/permalink/720474102236690/ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Most of the time we complain about the adverts on these forums, this one actually made me laugh, "Grandma" has been photoshopped so badly in the "before" photo to resemble some Pythonesque character Jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2020 5 hours ago, great central said: This made me smile this morning, any of them as good as some of the high brow so-called 'art' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-54959423 "This year we have received a record number of entries. We have ordered a second skip," I burst out laughing when I read that line. Priceless! Kev. 4 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Can everyone have a quick look down the back of the sofa to help the Bank of England find their missing cash. Thanks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55173402 steve 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, steve1 said: Can everyone have a quick look down the back of the sofa to help the Bank of England find their missing cash. Thanks. If I find any, they're not getting it back! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, steve1 said: Can everyone have a quick look down the back of the sofa to help the Bank of England find their missing cash. Thanks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55173402 steve "For instance, there are more $100 bills out there than any other denomination of the greenback, with 80% of them estimated to be held outside the US." Must be, I have not seen one in years! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: "For instance, there are more $100 bills out there than any other denomination of the greenback, with 80% of them estimated to be held outside the US." Must be, I have not seen one in years! Someone must have trouble getting into bed! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 hours ago, steve1 said: Can everyone have a quick look down the back of the sofa to help the Bank of England find their missing cash. Thanks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55173402 steve My mate in Nigeria can probably help. Mike. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Its Page 666! The Work Of the Devil!!! 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo54 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 If you find any spare cash the Devil lives in Alberta....Payment in Bitcoin please !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes in, the Mid Hants Xmas special South Today, Evening News: 04/12/2020: Sorry you’ll have to cut and paste it in as it won’t embed. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000q2b2 via @bbciplayer Watercress Line version if you don’t have iplayer Edited December 5, 2020 by PaulRhB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 15:59, steve1 said: I am pretty certain that the blame for Carling "beers/lagers" cannot be laid at the UK's door. Fairly sure they originated in Scandinavia somewhere. steve I think you are confusing Carling with the Danish Carlsberg, star of ‘Ice Cold in Alex’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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