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Dating, women and the 'hobby'...


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47 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:

How about 'intolerant of open sandals on men'...

 

3 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

As long as the wearer isn't wearing socks. Especially scruffy boot socks or knee high ones with tiny shorts.

But the point is that these are lifestyle choices and matters of taste. Each and every one of us is fully entitled to our opinions and choices, best to simply move on if there is real conflict. (My own bête noire is sharing any part of my private existence with dogs, cats, rodents, whatever. They have no conversation, often engage in socially inappropriate behaviours and expect full board and lodging, and healthcare. STFAGOS.)

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11 hours ago, Poggy1165 said:

Women come in infinite variety. In that they are rather like blokes. How many of your (male) mates like railways, or models? Probably not all. Maybe not any. I have a mate who has no interest in modelling whatsoever. Mind you, he's a boring git who doesn't like dogs either, and has very little interest in history and understands politics about as well as a hamster. So we have little to talk about except City.

 

You need a tolerant woman who doesn't expect the house to look like the Ideal Home Exhibition. And in return, you need to be tolerant of her little quirks because, chaps, we (humans) all have them. I'm lucky, my missus has always not only tolerated my interest in model railways but supported it. But in return I don't moan about her obsession with paper crafts.  We share a lot of tools and she is a big customer of Squires and Eileen's!

 

 

Well, what do you expect if you have a mate who's a football fan...

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1 hour ago, The Johnster said:

I have just repaired a pair of earrings using modelling tools and skills.  Brownie points, yay...

I've also done that  a few times and have a watch strap to shorten tomorrow.   I also gained several brownie points one holiday when a tooth fell off the boss's plate.   I managed to glue and pin it back in with a couple of bits of brass wire.   When she eventually got to the Dental Hospital 3 weeks later the guy who sorted it asked her if I wanted a job.   She's still tolerating my hobby in the year of our ruby wedding.

 

Jamie

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Brownie points are fleeting and illusory things anyway; Zomboid, at least in the sense that you can lose them instantly (despite having laboured long and hard to build them up) for no reason that is apparent to you or any rational entity.

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25 minutes ago, The Johnster said:

Brownie points are fleeting and illusory things anyway; Zomboid, at least in the sense that you can lose them instantly (despite having laboured long and hard to build them up) for no reason that is apparent to you or any rational entity.

Always remember that "rational" and "female" are mutually exclusive! 

 

They say similar things about us! 

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10 hours ago, Chris116 said:

Always remember that "rational" and "female" are mutually exclusive! 

 

They say similar things about us! 

 

That's a rather sexist comment... I hope it's tongue in cheek!! 

 

9 hours ago, The Johnster said:

TBH, 'rational' and 'human' are pretty much mutually exclusive.  Incompatibility between the sexes is a clever evolutionary means of preventing overpopulation.

 

I would agree with that. Every one of us can be awkward and difficult at times, regardless of gender. 

 

Ultimately if a relationship is meant to be then each respective side will be supportive and/or tolerant of each other's interests and hobbies. However there must be give and take.

 

Family and close relationships are ALWAYS more important than toy trains....... :fool:

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Absolutely, but you can't compare a hobby to a relationship.  It's like comparing oranges to telegraph poles.  

 

My squeeze is the most important person in my life, but a very long chalk.

 

But trains are the most important thing.  People are more important than things, though.  You need to find a balance that you can work with, which always means compromise.  I am very lucky that the squeeze is prepared to share the room that she calls a bedroom because there's a bed in it and I call a railway room because, well, you get the idea.  But then again, she would not have ever been the sort of person who would have been my squeeze in the first place otherwise; she would hopefully express the same thing, that I would not be her life partner if I were not the sort of person that has what she describes as my 'passion' for my hobby.

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21 hours ago, The Johnster said:

TBH, 'rational' and 'human' are pretty much mutually exclusive.  Incompatibility between the sexes is a clever evolutionary means of preventing overpopulation.

So with only 7.4 billion of us underpopulating (!!?) our one and only planet that worked out well didn't it!  Actually I think an "until" statement must have got missed off the line of evolutionary code generally expressed as "Go forth and multiply...." 

The joke is that we think we're making rational decisions when current research suggest that we make the decision and then come up with a post hoc rationale for having made it. In our decision making we're all a bit manouevre, mirror and don't bother to signal.

 

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On ‎22‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 12:56, Pacific231G said:

... In our decision making we're all a bit manouevre, mirror and don't bother to signal.

Or possibly endlessly manoeuvre, send out uncontrolled and misleading signals, use the mirror inappropriately and then put vast effort into rationalising what we have done?

 

I was interested by an animal husbandry specialist years ago who expressed the opinion that humans would be 'shy breeders' by the standards of most mammals in our size range.

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On ‎21‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 13:12, The Johnster said:

Brownie points are fleeting and illusory things anyway; Zomboid, at least in the sense that you can lose them instantly (despite having laboured long and hard to build them up) for no reason that is apparent to you or any rational entity.

 

The problem with Brownie points are that they arrive singly and depart in multiple.

 

Now add in a Central European concept of the system and you will find, like me, that you are at least several gazillion in deficit  for something that happened, or didn't happen,  that was of no consequence to anyone (to such an extent that no-one, except one, noticed anything out of the ordinary) :dontknow: and you are into a whole new branch of brownie point economics.

 

Still she lets me spend money on my hobbies, so that makes up for it.

 

Andy

(who still doesn't know what he did or didn't do)

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I have a Polish squeeze as well Andy, overall a very positive thing but I agree with your point about Central European concepts, which even after a considerable time still catch me out.  Her attitude to my hobby is supportive, as she thinks it is indicative of intelligence and passion.  I cannot comment about the intelligence part...

 

I've never known what I did or didn't do, but it is obvious that, whatever it was. I shouldn't have done it or should have done it differently, or more, or less, or something.  

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1 hour ago, The Johnster said:

I have a Polish squeeze as well Andy, overall a very positive thing but I agree with your point about Central European concepts, which even after a considerable time still catch me out.  Her attitude to my hobby is supportive, as she thinks it is indicative of intelligence and passion.  I cannot comment about the intelligence part...

 

I've never known what I did or didn't do, but it is obvious that, whatever it was. I shouldn't have done it or should have done it differently, or more, or less, or something.  

I don't think that those traits are unique to Central Europe.   I've been married to a lass from the Heavy Woollen district of West Yorkshire, particularly the area that made shoddy and mungo (Batley) and have experienced the same traits many times.

 

Jamie

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I’ve been married 36 years and I’ve known my wife for 45 years, she comes from Deepest Norfolk and I freely admit that there are regular occasions when I have no idea at all what, or even if, she is thinking... 

 

she mostly regards my interests as childish and pointless, having failed in her lifelong quest to interest me in gardening (her father’s passion). His other passion (outside the family) was football, specifically Cambridge United but as she cared nothing about that, she doesn’t care that I don’t either. 

 

She mostly appears to feel that my hobbies keep me (mostly) out of the pub and out of jail, which I suppose is a valid position...

 

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On ‎26‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 16:25, jamie92208 said:

I don't think that those traits are unique to Central Europe.   I've been married to a lass from the Heavy Woollen district of West Yorkshire, particularly the area that made shoddy and mungo (Batley) and have experienced the same traits many times.

 

Jamie

 

Ah but do you have 10 minutes of family conversation in foreign language of which you only catch, maybe 10 words, and then are suddenly asked what you think?

 

The unhelpful blank look on your face and shrug of shoulders, you are reminded of later cos you were being unhelpful, awkward and just  weren't listening 

 

But then again, maybe you have. 

 

One thing  I do know about getting on the wrong side of Mrs SM42 is; the sulks are epic.   

 

Andy

 

 

 

 

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Epic indeed, but they blow over quickly and no resentment survives the storm.  I have yet to have the experience I've had with previous Welsh squeezes of having some point that I'd long forgotten about (or was never really aware of anyway) from an argument 2 or 3 years ago that she'd been brooding on secretly all that time thrown at me in the middle of a later 'discussion'.

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1 hour ago, The Johnster said:

Epic indeed, but they blow over quickly and no resentment survives the storm.  I have yet to have the experience I've had with previous Welsh squeezes of having some point that I'd long forgotten about (or was never really aware of anyway) from an argument 2 or 3 years ago that she'd been brooding on secretly all that time thrown at me in the middle of a later 'discussion'.

Only 2 to 3 years, you are lucky.  I still get told off about dropping a silent but deadly in a national Trust shop then walking quietly away, and that was 40 years ago.    

 

Jamie

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34 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

Only 2 to 3 years, you are lucky.  I still get told off about dropping a silent but deadly in a national Trust shop then walking quietly away, and that was 40 years ago.    

 

Jamie

And quite right too!  SBD in the National Trust, that’s just wrong!  Like a friend of mine who rolled, and lit, a joint, in the British Legion...

 

Kids terday, no respec’

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42 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

Only 2 to 3 years, you are lucky.  I still get told off about dropping a silent but deadly in a national Trust shop then walking quietly away, and that was 40 years ago.    

 

Jamie

I got the blame for one of those when it was the dog that done it!

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