Burkitt Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 This image created by Paul Burkitt-Gray is based on a photo by Phil Scott distributed under the GNU free documentation license, and as such is released under the same license. Several attempts have been made to drop the required yellow panel, the early class 150/2s and the Heathrow Express class 332s being notable examples. What if modern headlights had been deemed sufficient and BR had managed to do away with the requirement? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydgaled Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Image by Paul Burkitt-Gray, based on a photo by Gauteng Citizen, published under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike License. With alternatives to IEP currently under consideration, could a simpler 125mph EMU provide more affordable rolling stock for the electrified Great Western that are also more suitable for today's inter-urban services? Can you provide a link to the original image please? I'm interested to see what the image is based on, maybe a Hull Trains 180 or one of the new Turbostars. If that wasn't a Hull Trains 180 I'm amazed the dynamic lines are possible to Photoshop into existance, and would like to congratulate you on achiveing it. My own attempts with designing a First Great Western version of Alphaline livery have turned out rather poorly because of my inability to do such lines but I'll present the several designs I have done. Base image is the same as before. I started simple, with a very basic pair of blue-white-pink bands: The next version, 'Subtle Lines' is a single, taller, blue-white-pink band with blur: I was lazy and only did rest of the liveries on the front coach, so 'Subtle Lines' is left on the other coach The next two were done using some of the more interesting Photoshop brushes: The next one I call 'Misty Hills Lines', it's hard to see but the hills should be made of a pink-white-blue band Finally, two versions of a concept I call 'Town & Country Lines' (based on a mix of First Capitol Connect and my 'Misty Hills' concept): I would be interestered to hear if anyone would have liked any of these Alphaline livery concepts had they been done well, and if so which they would like the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I believe the train that image is based on is an Electrostar derivative built by Bombardier at Derby for use in South Africa Whilst we're on the First subject, here's an alternative to Barbie GBRf livery Dynamic lines nicked from an HST. Hmm, I wonder how it'd work with the blue fade as per Trans Pennine Express... cheers jo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Rhydgaled, the FGW EMU is based on this image http://en.wikipedia....t-retouched.JPG of the South African Gautrain, built by Bombardier and basically a member of the UK Electrostar family. On which subject, it puzzles me slightly that the South Africans' chose to build a completely new railway to the UK loading gauge, constraining potential capacity and choice of rolling stock compared with if they had used larger clearances. Here's a few more trains without the familiar yellow warning panels: Based on a photo by Les Chatfield. Modified image copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. The early class 150/2s had no yellow panel except on the front connecting door when first introduced. What if Regional Railways had gone further with the class 158 and done away with it altogether? Based on a photo by Phil Sangwell. Modified Image copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. The flagship Intercity 125 was already unconventional in having no front buffers and not carrying a separate tail lamp, but what would the classic yellow front have looked like if BR had pushed the boundaries even more? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BluenGreyAnorak Posted September 13, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hi Paul, Some of the pictures on this thread are fascinating, but that HST is incredible. At first glance its' so wrong, but the longer I look at it the more right it looks. Inspired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 I have to admit, it's not my idea, I'd thought getting rid of the yellow on such an iconic livery would never work. Thanks must go to LE Greys for suggesting a rail grey lower body to create a true blue on grey zig-zag. Based on a photo by FreeFotoUK. Modified image copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. Without the statutory yellow warning panel, EWS could have used the same front end design as its parent company Wisconsin Central. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydgaled Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Without the statutory yellow warning panel, EWS could have used the same front end design as its parent company Wisconsin Central. Looks like there's still quite an area of yellow on the front ends, I'm wondering perhaps it would be allowed. I think that design looks good on the 37s, not so sure about the 66 though. Oh, and thanks for posting the original for the FGW 125mph Electrostar image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 This image created by Paul Burkitt-Gray is based on a photo by Phil Scott distributed under the GNU free documentation license, and as such is released under the same license. A couple of different versions of the yellowless networker, looking at design features which could have been used on the front end without the need for a yellow panel. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 A lot of mainland Europe get's away without any form of yellow end and rund some trains faster than us so perhaps it's just UK legislation. The EWS 37 looks good - probably enough yellow as haven't some been painted green with SYE (37403) ? South Africa use 3'6" gauge track so having bodies built to UK loading gauge is probably about right. Just look at the size of the 25NC (Janice) @ Quainton Road and compare against UK stock. Must get out my SAR dining car book for the dimensions as a comparison to say MkI's. New Zealand have exBR MkII's on 3'6" gauge. The 1m gauge stock in India looks similar sized to UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. EWS's parent company Wisconsin Central was purchased by Canadian National in 2001. However, they never transferred their branding across the Atlantic, instead selling the UK freight operator to German state railway DB. Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Nice, although i'm not sure EWS works that well written in CN's "noodle" font - maybe it needs rebranding as CN-Europe or something. B) I always preferred their previous Zebra corporate image: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=397675 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Nice, although i'm not sure EWS works that well written in CN's "noodle" font - maybe it needs rebranding as CN-Europe or something. Photo released into the public domain Something like this, the CN North America logo. maybe? Based on a photograph released by its author into the public domain. Modified image copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. How would NSE's class 321s have looked in the Networker-style livery? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCountry Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 This image created by Paul Burkitt-Gray is based on a photo by Phil Scott distributed under the GNU free documentation license, and as such is released under the same license. A couple of different versions of the yellowless networker, looking at design features which could have been used on the front end without the need for a yellow panel. Paul Maybe like that one but with the edge of the black panel coming round the corner to line up with the red? (still with a white line between red & black though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 Image by Paul Burkitt Gray based on a photograph by Cross Houses, published under Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike License.Siemens wanted to bid for the Networker contract, but was put off when BR refused to allow them to test a prototype bogie on a class 455. Had they persevered, the German manufacturer might have entered the UK rolling stock market nearly a decade earlier than it eventually did with the Heathrow Express class 332s. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 Image by Paul Burkitt-Gray, based on a photograph by Jan Derk, published under Creative Commons Attribution License. South West Trains' first livery, while very similar in appearance to Network SouthEast, still required trains to be completely repainted. How would it have looked applied to their new Siemens Desiros? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Some interesting work there. I'm not at all keen on liveries without yellow ends, foreign stuff looks strange enough to me, let alone seeing British stuff without it! I do like the CN inspired 66 though! Here's a few I've done lately Yet another on the theme of the US freight companies, what if CSX had bought the ex BR freight sectors? I'm still not sure whether this works well or not at all! Here's the vision that was going through my mind when it first came out that a silver 60 was being done for Tata, yep, it's just the Corus livery with Tata logos:P 60015 is rumoured to soon be appearing in red, with more to follow if the whispers are to be believed. A preview? What with Corus/Tata/BSC, Stobart, Bardon and several others getting customer liveried locos, what if EWS did one for long term customer Murco? cheers jo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Some interesting work there. I'm not at all keen on liveries without yellow ends, foreign stuff looks strange enough to me, let alone seeing British stuff without it! I do like the CN inspired 66 though! Here's a few I've done lately Yet another on the theme of the US freight companies, what if CSX had bought the ex BR freight sectors? I'm still not sure whether this works well or not at all! cheers jo Hi Jo, Very nice and probably correct in 1997(?) but that is YN2 (Yellow Nose 2!!). How about a version in YN3? Like this; http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=330957&nseq=22 Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 The CSX livery looks quite good on the 66! If you need something with yellow on the front (and everywhere else) try Union Pacific. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 29, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2010 Are there any examples of a Voyager 220/221 in Blue/Grey anywhere? I'm not proficient enough with the graphics programs to undertake my own attempt at ficticious liveries, but I fancy actually painting a Voyager model in Blue/Grey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningduck Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Are there any examples of a Voyager 220/221 in Blue/Grey anywhere? I'm not proficient enough with the graphics programs to undertake my own attempt at ficticious liveries, but I fancy actually painting a Voyager model in Blue/Grey How about Ficticious Liveries fotopic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted September 29, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2010 How about Ficticious Liveries fotopic? Nice find, thanks. It gives me a good impression of how a model might look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Image by Paul Burkitt-Gray, based on a photo by Oxyman, published under Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike License. Rather than scrap the recently refurbished D78 stock in 2015, when it could have another decade and a half of life in it, why not send it to Southern? They could provide ten car trains on South London metro services and allow the 377s to be used on longer distance services. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Image by Paul Burkitt-Gray, based on a photo by Oxyman, published under Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike License. Rather than scrap the recently refurbished D78 stock in 2015, when it could have another decade and a half of life in it, why not send it to Southern? They could provide ten car trains on South London metro services and allow the 377s to be used on longer distance services. Paul Hi, Wouldn't like to be on that at 60mph! One thing, where's the high-intensity Headlight? Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Rhydgaled, the FGW EMU is based on this image http://en.wikipedia....t-retouched.JPG of the South African Gautrain, built by Bombardier and basically a member of the UK Electrostar family. On which subject, it puzzles me slightly that the South Africans' chose to build a completely new railway to the UK loading gauge, constraining potential capacity and choice of rolling stock compared with if they had used larger clearances. Here's a few more trains without the familiar yellow warning panels: Based on a photo by Les Chatfield. Modified image copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. The early class 150/2s had no yellow panel except on the front connecting door when first introduced. What if Regional Railways had gone further with the class 158 and done away with it altogether? Based on a photo by Phil Sangwell. Modified Image copyright Paul Burkitt-Gray. The flagship Intercity 125 was already unconventional in having no front buffers and not carrying a separate tail lamp, but what would the classic yellow front have looked like if BR had pushed the boundaries even more? Paul This looks really smart lmsforever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxychuff Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hello world! Nice rage of stuff here, from hideous to beatiful but you all seem very good at image maniplutlation. for all it's worth, here're two of mine: a 365 in whiskers and with out a yellow end and a very odd A4ish thing in LMS crimson! (improvement subject to free time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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