RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2017 Since when did shops close at 10:15 in the morning? No it probably won't come today, or tomorrow so I'd prepare yourself for more crushing disappointments all week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I don’t know about closing at 10.15 a.m. but they all opened an hour early today. When, oh when, are they going to stop messing about with the clocks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Having spoken today to the retailer who will be supplying my locos, I can advise that as of todays post he has received no communication from Heljan, normally before Heljan stock is delivered they send advice notes alerting the retailer to its pending arrival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Nothing today by Email announcement, so definitely after the 27th...............And this type of distribution is their decision, not ours,so we are entitled to comment. Stephen Surprise! Hattons have just said due in April by email Don't get too down it's only another 30 days Edited March 27, 2017 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Thank god wonderful as the model is, I'd have trouble affording it before my April paycheque lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted March 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2017 Surprise! Hattons have just said due in April by email Don't get too down it's only another 30 days No guarantees it'll be a Manning Wardle in 30 days time. More like another Hattons email of postponement! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Well I got the same sad email from Hatton's with an unspecified date in April indicated.. So it seems that although this announcement might probably good news for many a members liquidity.. It is not so good news for my and probably many other enthusiasts' modeling aspirations.. I was really hoping for a quiet time dreaming of an eternal summer in the days of yore Whilst watching 'Exe' as it wardled its merry way around the 009 loop.. Ah! Guess we'll all just have to wait some more... Whilst whatever is holding things up gets fixed.. We could even pass our time playing the game of guess why they've been delayed.. My money is on, "the container fell overboard and they are currently trying to fish it out.." scenario.. Rather than.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Well yes it is rather frustrating isnt it? I dont suppose we will ever get a definitive answer, I asked Heljan directly some weeks back ( Jan Feb) , when it was finally expected and was advised Late Feb March was the anticipated time the locos would arrive in Denmark, where they would be tested before onward shipment, hopefully this process is just taking a little longer than anticipated, we have to remember that Heljan have other products arriving also, apparently the 0 Gauge class 45 diesel has been rejected so maybe this has taken more time to sort out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted March 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Unless anyone has any insider knowledge, I'm not convinced they've arrived in Denmark! Sometimes there's a post on their Facebook page of new locos under test before dispatch to retailers, but to date I've seen nothing more than a single Manning Wardle. I think they must still be on a slow boat from China! Edited March 27, 2017 by Captainalbino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 will just have to pass the time doin' something else!!!!! Where's my Fishing Rods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted March 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2017 will just have to pass the time doin' something else!!!!! Where's my Fishing Rods more time for me to try and get some track down... dithering whether to go for a 4 by 1 terminus-type set-up, or try and cram in a continuous run into a 4 by 2... either way, I need to get cracking! cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 At present my new Woody Bay layout is an L&B free area, run by 2 Skarloey Locos on holiday in Devon........it needs testing, with the real thing before working on the landscaping. Mind you if the slow boat does arrive this year, they will be joined by some WW1 locos from Bachmann......eventually, Just hope I see them before my time is up. Stephen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 more time for me to try and get some track down... dithering whether to go for a 4 by 1 terminus-type set-up, or try and cram in a continuous run into a 4 by 2... either way, I need to get cracking! cheers, Keith I personally prefer sort sort of continuous run on Narrow Gauge layouts where possible, so that We can go into 'watching the trains go by' mode occasionally when the possible shunting moves have been carried out a few times and all becomes repetitive ( although I agree a continuous run is also repetitive) Our plans for the 00-9 layout have changed several times in the past few years, whilst awaiting the Locos, currently the plan is for a much smaller one than the original plans because that space has been used for 'something else' so it looks like it will be occupying a baseboard around 7' x 2'8" although the trackplan has not been finalised, I think we have far more 00-9 stock , buildings, & track than will eventually be required! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Continuous run or out and back is a difficult decision. My current 8'x4' continuous run is useful for running-in locos but has limitations operationally. But, let's face it, model railways are all compromise anyway..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I think we all face this dilemma Out and back, you can create an interesting shunting puzzle However this will limit train size and (until the advent of DCC I believe) you cannot run trains continuously. A lay out which allows both (though limited in puzzle terms) is ideal, this would be about 2ft 6 deep in 00-9 gauge. My first exhibitions was with a continuos 00 layout 3m30 by 2m70 (you stood in the middle). This modeler unit could be packed flat to fit in the boot of a Scenic or Verso car. (Rolling stock and buildings took up 2 rear seats, leaving one seat for my son). It was a good few hours to set up and put away, but I could fire 9 different trains all day long and have shunting going on in a port or locos being arranged in the depot etc. it certainly drew crowds. Then my daughter came along, and I fancied something lighter and quicker to set up. DCC sound came along, so I did short plank about 6 ft long. The choise came down to either a plank with several sidings using small tank locos and a could of wagons, however I really needed to something to show of sound fitted locos being mostly mainline diesels and tender engines. So we settled on a design which could accept a 2 coach train (with small loco) to allow a push-pull set or 2-EPB to appear. That greatly reduced the number of possible sidings. It worked ok, but clearly it did not drag crowds I was hoping for. And I was beaten in a competition by a not very executed continous layout with just one loco and a small train going round all day. Now I,m designing a compact continuous layout... With 00-9, you should be able to have the best of both worlds. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I have just asked Heljan in Denmark for any info on availability of the locos They will be making an official announcement late next week with shipment details, they also said that Heljan are currently in China looking thro' the production finish and this looks very good Hope this info is of value to those anxiously waiting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 If they are still in China and Heljan has yet to sign off on them then they might arrive at earliest say, by June? If we are very lucky.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2017 If they are still in China and Heljan has yet to sign off on them then they might arrive at earliest say, by June? If we are very lucky.. Why not wait for the announcement next week on the dates. Too much date griping already without adding three more months to their arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hey that's not griping - That is speculative irony! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hey that's not griping - That is speculative irony! I know you weren't griping just inciting Hey that rhymes sort of! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I notice that the pre order price of £146.00 has now increased to £189.95 on Hattons website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 I notice that the pre order price of £146.00 has now increased to £189.95 on Hattons website. Its so that Christine Hatton can buy some more designer handbags! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Being quite involved my self in the retail trade I can appreciate why Hattons have increased the price to the RRP, if there is demand for a product be it a model train or a can of Beer then it makes sense to make as much profit as possible, being profitable for a retailer is a hedge against times when things may not be so good. Given that one of the three Manning Wardles is fully subscribed on Hattons site indicates that there is demand for the models. As I am not ordering from Hattons on this occasion I am unsure if all previous pre orders will be increased to the new price or if the £146 price will be honoured for those who pre ordered earlier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 I notice that the pre order price of £146.00 has now increased to £189.95 on Hattons website. Looking around at other retailers this rrp price seems to be the going rate, the discounted prices being offered have disappeared. Good for the retailers if they can shift the stock at that price but unfortunately for me it's a stretch too far :-( Oh well, lots of new other goodies coming soon that have now become a little more affordable as a result of reallocating the £145 I had earmarked for the L&B loco! Cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I've not had any communication (yet) from Hattons to suggest that the price has changed for those with pre orders, which bodes well thus far for my pair! One of the members over on NGRM has said that he's got to ring them tomorrow for something else, but will enquire at the same time, so I dare say the results of that will appear in due course. Unless we've heard anything beefier then, I'll keep us posted in here! Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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