Guest spet0114 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) How about a GBGBLL or 'Great British GBL locomotives series' - each issue contains a clone of a GBL model...... Edited September 18, 2015 by spet0114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 How about .... - each issue contains a clone of a GBL model...... What, like a sort of Great British Take-Off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 ...Before he left the Fount of Knowledge did let slip that they are of Eastern European manufacture... Given how well 'the source' did on the basis of a knock off, so the tooling cost is included in the retail price along with the gargantuan packaging and a magazine; I feel Hornby could do a lot worse than try this outfit with some of their own older tooling, initially as a source of Railroad product. The mouldings and castings on the A2 are very crisp and clean, they clearly have good technique on tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Given how well 'the source' did on the basis of a knock off, so the tooling cost is included in the retail price along with the gargantuan packaging and a magazine; I feel Hornby could do a lot worse than try this outfit with some of their own older tooling, initially as a source of Railroad product. The mouldings and castings on the A2 are very crisp and clean, they clearly have good technique on tap. And I think it's fair to say, got better with practice. Painting and lining, on the other hand were a bit more variable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Given how well 'the source' did on the basis of a knock off, so the tooling cost is included in the retail price along with the gargantuan packaging and a magazine; I feel Hornby could do a lot worse than try this outfit with some of their own older tooling, initially as a source of Railroad product. The mouldings and castings on the A2 are very crisp and clean, they clearly have good technique on tap. Agreed - a point I believe I made much earlier in the series, though it should be borne in mind that the prices of the GBL models are excluding VAT as they are for tax purposes a free gift with an expensive magazine! That said, even allowing for VAT and the cost of better quality control I don't see why bodyshells shouldn't be able to be produced for around the £15 mark. Providing motorised chassis and final assembly would be more difficult of course, perhaps as far as the diesel models are concerned Hornby should commission Kato to produce them for them - if they could produce 00 chassis to a similar price/quality as their N gauge ones it ought to be possible to put Railroad diesels together for around the £45 mark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 And so it begins. A GBL Mallard on ebay for £27.50, and never any mention that it doesn't run... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Polish-built-Class-A4-Mallard-locomotive-00-guage-for-display-only-/301740108114?hash=item46411ca952 Hmm...the "description hints that you could do more than just display it.... A Brand new Loco, in its unopened packaging. An incredible low price for a fine model. This will look great even if you just want to display this fine example of engineering. I bought it by mistake thinking it was an "0|'gauge. Still an incredible bargain. But I finally sold some grandchildren and can afford the Bassett Lowke " 0 gauge beauty. Also, the use of the first photo...taken from the backing card I think...is shared with this listing... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Class-A4-No-4468-Mallard-UK-1938-OO-1-76-L/131583072786?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D6a56d15507714c06b977dfb4159f29fd%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D301740108114 At least this seller is quite clear as to what you get.... Model sold by us does not have a motor and does not move. It is a stationary collector's model to be placed on the shelf / in the showcase. Models sold by us are brand new made of metal and plastic. Packed in original closed soft blisters or hard cases (depends from model). Soft plastic blisters are only to protect the models and are not a subject to complaint. They may be damaged or crushed during transport. Our priority is the model so we will not be liable for state of the transparent packaging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08-362 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Asda in Ashford *still* have two Locomotions on the shelf. I finally gave in and bought one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted September 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2015 ASDA Bodmin - one in stock; (hidden behind the new Doctor Who partwork, lefthand end of the magazine rack when facing the doors). Regards, John Isherwood. Still there - hiding behind the Doctor Who partworks !! Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Just had a quick tot up of what I have GBL wise and I think I have about 85 locos. Is that to many? Cheers Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Nah. You know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What does to many mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 *too many 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What does to many mean? It's clearly a toast "to many happy purchases when the series reruns" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Still there - hiding behind the Doctor Who partworks !! Regards, John Isherwood. What it is, just as someone picks it up to buy it (according to the well known "trousers of time"), the Tardis referenced in the partwork moves it back to the point when it was first put on the shelf as the purchaser walks off with their copy. You may well think its still there, but its not the same thing...... I think I need to sit in a darkened room for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Still there - hiding behind the Doctor Who partworks !! Regards, John Isherwood. Given the comments about the small size of Locomotion,maybe it's bigger on the inside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Still one 'Locomotion' in WHSmith's Worthing branch today lunchtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Nah. You know it makes sense. Well, I'm never going to run out of 'future projects'! So far the locos I have tinkered with to some degree are the T9, A4, Deltic, Peak, Western, 47, A2, City, 28xx, Princess 8P, 8F,9F and Brit. Cheers Shane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Howe Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 ... At least this seller is quite clear as to what you get.... Interestingly, this item is in Kraków, Poland. "Surplus" factory stock? Cheers Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Interestingly, this item is in Kraków, Poland. "Surplus" factory stock? Yes, they probably store them in the local salt mines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Interestingly, this item is in Kraków, Poland. "Surplus" factory stock? Cheers Phil They could well be, seeing the large range of 'partwork' items on offer. The prices aren't high considering... (e.g. a metal completed model of 'Titanic' for £14.95, which is not much more than the Revell plastic kit of the same ship.) (Must finish mine.......) Edited September 19, 2015 by Il Grifone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yes, they probably store them in the local salt mines.... Or fill them with gold and hide them in a tunnel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Or fill them with gold and hide them in a tunnel... Wasn't the latest story that the gold would now glow in the dark? But good for nighttime running! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo C. Cupier Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hi, all. Just back from holibobs, so just reading in. No sign of the 47 in Knutsford on 3rd September, Carlisle on the 4th, or Falkirk on the 5th, but did manage to snag one in ASDA at Elgin late evening on the 5th, and another in WHSmiths at Inverness on the 7th. Elgin ASDA store also had two Locomotion issues on the 10th September. On our return trip, Livingston WHSmiths had a Locomotion on the 14th, and checked in WHSmiths at Dumfries on the 18th just in case the mythical issue 42 had appeared, to find that they had five copies of Issue 37, Lord Nelson, sadly not one of my interests. Perhaps surplus stocks are being issued/cleared ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 ...it should be borne in mind that the prices of the GBL models are excluding VAT as they are for tax purposes a free gift with an expensive magazine! That said, even allowing for VAT and the cost of better quality control I don't see why bodyshells shouldn't be able to be produced for around the £15 mark... Why so expensive? Start from the entire scan and manufacture of the tooling, the manufacturing and finishing of the model, production and printing of the magazine, gargantuan packaging, and costs of the retail distribution inflated by the unnecessarily bulky product, and finally the profit margins for producer and retailer; all that for £8.99. Let's guess that half of that shop retail price may be assigned to the model element, half on the superfluous tackle: magazine and 90% of the packaging. Compare to production from available tools, finishing of the model and compact packaging and shipping: that should be well under the £4.50 mark because of the start from available tooling eliminating all of the scanning and tooling stage. The VAT might bring it up to a fiver retail - remember that whatever the profit element Amercom and retailer take, is baked in already in that price - and that's for all the exterior visible parts of a fair sized loco. The question then becomes what capability exists to produce and assemble the working components, to move the product from a static to running model. If that exists at the same location, then it looks a good prospect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Wasn't the latest story that the gold would now glow in the dark? But good for nighttime running! Nah, that was Peckham Spring water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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