RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted July 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2013 Jim, any chance you might get a go with the class 86? Or 70099 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 4, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2013 Who knows! There are so many rumours about class 70s floating round the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted July 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2013 Who knows! There are so many rumours about class 70s floating round the net Strong rumour that 099 is moving to Washwood Heath (from Eastleigh) soon, but as you say, only rumours until something happens although one group has posted timings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2013 Strong rumour that 099 is moving to Washwood Heath (from Eastleigh) soon, but as you say, only rumours until something happens although one group has posted timings. Do I need to buy transfers?? Cheers, Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 4, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2013 couple of pics from today, worked the sinfins from crewe to carlisle, first stop was carnforth then onwards to tebay, final stop carlisle tebay loop 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Jim, Please excuse my ignorance but for some time I have been wondering about "sinfins" What are they please - is it the tank type, contents or the location involved please? Many thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maudgca Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) Hi Please excuse my ignorance but for some time I have been wondering about "sinfins" What are they please - is it the tank type, contents or the location involved please? Sinfin is an area of Derby where the Rolls Royce aero engine factory is located. The "sinfins" are the nickname for the trains of TEA tank wagons (maximum 9 of them), loaded with aviation fuel, for jet engine testing as far as I know, that run Wednesday only (they leave in the evening) from Grangemouth oil refinery to Sinfin, as required (sometimes other days as well. In fact this year they've run every week day... but never more than 2 trains in a week). It used to be a DBS operated train, from Warrington (the tanks reaching Warrington by wagonload service), but now it's Colas operated. Andrew PS - I did go down to the station for them yesterday morning (at 06.30... yawn!), but I didn't post any photos because they weren't much different to the one's posted before... just a bit more cloud and one less tank!! Edited July 5, 2013 by maudgca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Hi Sinfin is an area of Derby where the Rolls Royce aero engine factory is located. The "sinfins" are the nickname for the trains of TEA tank wagons (maximum 9 of them), loaded with aviation fuel, for jet engine testing as far as I know, that run Wednesday only (they leave in the evening) from Grangemouth oil refinery to Sinfin, as required (sometimes other days as well. In fact this year they've run every week day... but never more than 2 trains in a week). It used to be a DBS operated train, from Warrington (the tanks reaching Warrington by wagonload service), but now it's Colas operated. Andrew Andrew, Many thanks for the info. Modern era is not my bag, I prefer 1955-65 - however I do find Jim thread an interesting insight into how railways run and make a point of following this thread, Regards, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velopeur Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I somehow imagined SInfin was some witty comment in Spanish or Latin. what a let down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Don't think you'll be on the 86 Jim, Colas don't have it anymore I don't think. When ETL gave up they stopped leasing it I think, the poor engine is out of action in Barrow Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2013 Double 56 on 6Z70 Ribblehead-Chirk today, but didn't get to see it. Obvious rumour is that the Carlisle-Chirk will go to two grids via the S&C so that it can load up to the normal 20/21 allowed for a 66. Any comments Jim? Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 5, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2013 I' e got a pair of them on sunday but i'm going WCML with i as i still dont sign the s+c, i'm sure ive got a southbound job next week too so that will also be going WCML too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Double 56 on 6Z70 Ribblehead-Chirk today, but didn't get to see it. Obvious rumour is that the Carlisle-Chirk will go to two grids via the S&C so that it can load up to the normal 20/21 allowed for a 66. Any comments Jim? Cheers, Mick Passing Halton (Runcorn) earlier http://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains2013-1/July-2013/30338804_bxPstH#!i=2616212060&k=zQQSHs3&lb=1&s=A Mark http://mark5812.smugmug.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Don't think you'll be on the 86 Jim, Colas don't have it anymore I don't think. When ETL gave up they stopped leasing it I think, the poor engine is out of action in Barrow Hill Only out of action because it needed GSM-R with the other electrics. With no operators interested in AC traction it's not worth paying for GSM-R to a loco for it to sit idle. http://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains2013-1/July-2013/30338804_bxPstH#!i=2614798223&k=LBhsxQM&lb=1&s=A Mark http://mark5812.smugmug.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) I' e got a pair of them on sunday but i'm going WCML with i as i still dont sign the s+c, i'm sure ive got a southbound job next week too so that will also be going WCML too What days you passing through Carnforth next week? Or is it just Sunday? I may head down and take a few photos? Ian Edited July 5, 2013 by 11B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I' e got a pair of them on sunday but i'm going WCML with i as i still dont sign the s+c, i'm sure ive got a southbound job next week too so that will also be going WCML too Thanks for the heads up, do you know the numbers of them and are you booking on at Warrington? Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 5, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2013 Do I need to buy transfers?? Cheers, Mick Do I need to buy transfers?? Cheers, Mick i was looking at my bachy 70 earlier, a respray into colas colours is probably quite simple but the amount of ohle stickers and little warning notices on it is unreal! anyway onto today, did a bit of road learning to didcot again, first up i went over to moor st to get the 10:55 to banbury then i had to go to reading using the XC cab pass then travel back to didcot on a fgw hst (passenger) to didcot so i could have a look round, i then got a 165 back to oxford before getting another XC voyager back to new st where it all went belly up as usual, the train back to crewe was 30 mins late, the manchester was 30 late due to no driver too so everyone piled on the desiro which ended up rammed all the way back to crewe some pics.... started at moor st and on to banbury to wait for my train to reading and into reading, had about 15 mins there so got some pics from the new bridge, which having had a good look at it is very impressive, if somewhat lacking passenger service info in strategic places (but not as bad as new st at the moment) looking back from the new bridge towards the west quick question for the stationmaster, noticed on the way in there are some sort of white boxes at most signals, pretty much where TPWS grids are normally located as can be seen on the UP line just beyond the facing point, what are they? smart looking unit in FGW livery, a class 180 my train back to didcot onto didcot, only 1 pic, ews 66 in the yard area and onto oxford, spent a bit of time here, went into the box for a look round, had a good chat with the signallers, always worth doing in my opinion couple of old BR blue vans in the goods platform and then onwards back to crewe via new st tomorrow, craven arms to conduct an EWS 66 off site into the goods loop, hopefully get to drive it, first EWS 66 if i do! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2013 and into reading, had about 15 mins there so got some pics from the new bridge, which having had a good look at it is very impressive, if somewhat lacking passenger service info in strategic places (but not as bad as new st at the moment) looking back from the new bridge towards the west quick question for the stationmaster, noticed on the way in there are some sort of white boxes at most signals, pretty much where TPWS grids are normally located as can be seen on the UP line just beyond the facing point, what are they? It's an ATP 'ramp' Jim you can see one - minus the bit that does the actual inductance to the on train fitting in my pic below - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 5, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2013 thats the fella, i did think it was something to with ATP, obviously a different system to the chiltern line type i'm used to seeing which has arming loops and no ramps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 6, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2013 And I've just noticed that the bit which does the job is lying in the six foot by those orange pipes. There is a loop as well incidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 6, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2013 this evening was a nice little job in the sunshine to conduct an enginners train out a possession into the good loop at craven arms a few pics of the evening the view from the box, basically this weekend craven arms is sitting between 2 possessions, the 153 is stabled on the down line in readiness to work a service over the heart of wales line which diverges just beyond the platform, it was hoped that the train leaving the possession would be able to work into the down platform before crossing over at the crossover beyond the 153, however the signaller couldn't get the points over as the 153 was occupying the section between the 2 signals so the interlocking wouldn't allow it so the possession train had to sit there until 19:30 after the 153 left the section (and station) towards kinghton a few pics from inside the box once the 153 left i walked down to the signal to meet the train, he had permission to pass the home board at danger and i was meeting him at the signal on the down (the one you can see the rear of) which i had permission to pass at danger to cross over and move towards the box looking back towards the 'box, i was to cross over towards the ground signal next to the box which i also had to pass at danger as the wrong direction move is unsignalled, for that reason the signaller also had to clip and scotch the points for the movement couple of signal views CA23, junction signal, main line to take you towards ludlow and subsiduary towards the heart of wales line CA2, protects the crossing, an 'inner home' signal, the section being beyond the crossing and at CA2 my train came into view, driven by part time RMWebber 21Alizard, 66067 leading a train of 10 salmon wagons adn 66111 on the rear and into the good loop, we went right up to the end to clear a crossing but it didn't fit, we ended up moving back towards the 'box to get in without blocking the crossing, before the move back, note the "tail lamp" camera next tot eh loco so the box knows you are in clear as the loop is before the box after moving back towards the box it was a case of shutting down the locos and putting on some handbrakes, the rear loco 66111, one of the RETB fitted 66's, note the highland rail sticker on the side and driving back past marshbrook i spotted this through the trees so i stopped and got a quick pic of it, a class 70 sandwiched between a couple of ews spoil trains, there was another one in the distance too something a bit different and the first ews 66's i've driven too 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Hi Jim, Taken from (nearly) the same place as your 6th shot above but over 20 years ago, 30th Aug 1991 to be precise. Was L/E to Crewe on the Glascoed-Crewe turn. Was waiting for the Central Wales to clear the section to Marshbrook ahead. The box was rebuilt to its present form in the late 90's ish by building the present structure around it and then demolishing the old box inside the new one. I did take some photos of the process but they are not scanned yet. My steed on that day, 37079, waiting for the road at Marshbrook. The Central Wales service still getting in the way. How we missed Church Stretton box being switched in in those days. L/E as there was no traffic at Glascoed for Crewe. Unusual not to have brought the barrier wagons back though. Paul J. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 7, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2013 Jim I think you've got your 'Down' and 'Up' the wrong way round in your notes against the pics - the 153 is standing on the Up Main (or has it all been changed round on the North & West recently?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 More Great photos David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted July 7, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2013 Nice to see a box with a full complement of levers in use. So many are just a shadow of their former selves with acres of white levers where things have been 'rationalised' almost out of existence. Best regards & keep up the good work, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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