Roy P Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I suppose someone might be interested in this sort of thing Link to LTM page I am hoping that something a little more appropriate may still be produced for the LU150 celebration. RP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Am I right in assuming that this model is a work of fiction? In that London Transport never owned or even ever operated such a steam engine in the past? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted May 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2013 Am I right in assuming that this model is a work of fiction? In that London Transport never owned or even ever operated such a steam engine in the past? Yes it is fiction in the sense that London Transport never owned or operated Prarie tanks in the past. However as part of this years 'steam on the met' programme one of the locos taking part has indeed been painted up in the livery shown (just as a BR class 20 has been given the current LU livery for the event). Thus while it is certainly not authentic in historical terms, it does accurately reflect a genuine prototype being used in the 150 celebrations. [edit for typo] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted May 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2013 An absolute work of fiction and admitted as such. What ever turns you on, I suppose. Some will buy them, others will rubbish the "fantasy" livery and others again might question the cost and the wisdom. Still nothing ventured nothing gained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 This loco is scheduled to work from Olympia and Moorgate on 01/04/2014! Like the model it's a joke! XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I wonder what the relative no-recurring costs are for producing a brand new model as against just a new livery for an existing one? I'm guessing about ten to one? I can't imagine many EM or P4 conversions being done....... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verityboo Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 As there is going to be a real Prairie painted in the livery I really don't understand the 'Fictitious' comments. It is a model of a real Loco and people will be able to buy a model of it! There have been several other similar examples of steam locos being painted in liveries which they never originally wore such as these: http://Bachmann-collectorsclub.co.uk/image_box.php?image=images_large/31-450K.jpg&id=3&Item=31-450K&width=650&height=304 http://Bachmann-collectorsclub.co.uk/image_box.php?image=images_large/32-875K.jpg&id=20&Item=32-875K&width=650&height=307 http://Bachmann-collectorsclub.co.uk/image_box.php?image=images_large/32-825K.jpg&id=18&Item=32-825K&width=650&height=321 All of which have been a sellout success! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted May 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2013 The official web page says Prairie on the Metropolitan lineLondon Underground has hired in a former Great Western (later British Railways) Prairie Tank locomotive as part of the 150th anniversary of the London Underground. Its first outing will be over the Spring bank holiday when it will appear in London Transport steam locomotive livery with the number L150 as a tribute to this unusual and special steam visitor to London. Although it never saw service on the London Underground network it was considered a perfect substitute for the real thing because of this type of locomotive’s impressive operational flexibility. Please note that due to the nature of running heritage trains, changes in the timetable or cancellations may be necessary. http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/whats-on/events/vehicles-on-the-move But thats not the only non authentic livery going to be seen this year, special edition class 20 anyone? http://www.railwaystoday.com/2013/04/11/chopper-goes-underground/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/37190-dalzell/8616483870/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Hopefully someone on this forum will be able to snap a photo of the real thing when it makes an appearance. I have ordered one to to keep my KWVR 3MT tank company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Don't forget, that favourite of many, 60163 Tornado, has only worn "ficticious" liveries since build, if you apply the same rules.... love it or loath it , L150 is NOT ficticious, it exists in real life! (At least it isn't a GWR livery............) Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2013 I do hope they've gauged it - those outside cylinders had a nasty habit of hitting things on some parts of the railway network. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2013 I do hope they've gauged it - those outside cylinders had a nasty habit of hitting things on some parts of the railway network. The London Underground is quite generous when it comes to width. IIRC some of the rolling stock was among the widest standard gauge stock ever operated in the UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 The paniers had to have cab roof corners modified to get within gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2013 Must be the new thing to paint GWR locos into maroon. First Olton Hall as Hogwarts Castle, now 5521 as L150. I must say though, they do suit maroon as something different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I've got to agree with you it would make Churchward turn in his grave, the Thomas fans might like it with a face shoved on the smoke box. 81C On the model the face should be on the bunker! XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matloughe Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 True the Metropolitan Line between Paddington (Bishops Road) and Moorgate has one of the largest loading Gauges on the network - due to being originally built to Broad Gauge. However as was rightly stated further extensions have been to the smaller Standard Gauge & Sub Surface stock uses a smaller then mainline gauge anyway. The Red Panniers had to have the rainstrips on their cab roof re-positioned to fit in the Finchley Road tunnels - and they only just fitted with an inch or two to spare! The Red Prairie is a work of fiction because LT never operated them its simply a 'one-off' for a special event. Which considering the relationship between the Great Western & Metropolitan - could have been seen as an insult if the original board of MET Directors were around to see it today I look forwards to seeing the celebrations - but will be more interested in MET #1 & Sarah Siddons then this loco. Cheers, ~ Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Must be the new thing to paint GWR locos into maroon. First Olton Hall as Hogwarts Castle, now 5521 as L150. I must say though, they do suit maroon as something different. The ex-GWR Panniers were maroon of course. In fact the first 2, the original L90 & L91, were actually painted in Swindon for delivery to LT....however it was a shade or two lighter than the ex-Met steam stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Suprised no ones mentioned the GCR's 8f 48624 yet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy P Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Suprised no ones mentioned the GCR's 8f 48624 yet.....And with good reason! RP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 ..And with good reason! RP I quite like it to be honest... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Maroon.... Jubilee... all the die hards want it green. I would love a Bachmann Limited Ed of it as it is at the moment. To be honest I quite like the idea of engines donning liveries similar to the type they would have operated with. Anyone else for a BR Green late crest B1? It could be something Bachmann can continue with... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2013 Only thing wrong with it really is the lettering - I bet the colour is that far off GW crimson lake and it was of course used on locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Just seen both the prototype and model at Amersham. Model colour appeared to match 5521/L150 parked alongside same platform as sales stand. Only a handful left for sale as of 17.00 tonight when my train left. At £97.99 it is only £23 more than many retailers are selling current batch of GWR models for and the extra money goes to Covent garden museum. Yes, I bought one. Well it saved postage and, if sales team are to be believed, online pre-orders have been very good. I thought it a bit naughty selling the remaining stock before the pre-order engines have been despatched. My friend bought one as well and commented on the lack of Westinghouse equipment compared to L150 alongside. Not worried myself. For the record, Met no 1 not working today due to bearing issues and not expected tomorrow either. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petee19 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Yes i also bought one today from Amersham,great little model as far as I'm concerned. Looks good along my three Red Panniers. Roll on the two 20's! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 how much was it? NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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