Jaz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Goathland water pump....or iso it? apologies forth poor focus, forgot the light was not good, and so bad pictures. add the copper, and 3 pieces of cut copper covering rmweb1751oldloft7 rmweb1752oldloft8 adding later to the bar copper to make the width correct. rmweb1753oldloft9 apologies again for the poor pictures, but you get the basic idea. The second water pump is NOT an exact match for the first. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnut Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Dave, (Sorry I'm a Phizzypop). Is the 11.82 from the maths or is it empirical? (I suppose I ought to sit down with the equations and work it out from first principles.) Couldn't say for sure. I would imagine it's empirical. I wouldn't want to have to derive it from first principles, G and radial acceleration...and all that... Can't imagine anybody not liking super-elevation Jaz !! Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 More interesting modeling Jaz great work buddy.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) More interesting modeling Jaz great work buddy.. Thanks Kal made the hard bit, me and a dremmel would be a disaster.....darling LOL He originally shaped the copper as well and put a DAS ball on the end. But he had to work, so I said I would do the copper bit as he had already done the hard bit and worked out the how to go about it. So his conception, I and his shaping of the upright...I am happily finishing it off, if he doesn't try to come and reclaim it... ..... Edited May 8, 2014 by Jaz 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 In yor pic's.........., here.. What is the pink, Citadel. ? A base colour/primer ?.............Ta. much. ....dt....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I did try Citadel colours with Warlock Purple. but it did't work, it is mostly Citadel evil suns scarlet a dab of enchanted blue (not too much or it goes purple) and some humbrol acrylic white 34 to lighten it, I have to paint it slightly lighter as when it dries it darkens a bit. I slap the red on then dip the brush just into the blue then add at least double the white and mix it on the model, add more white and adding a touch of water to help the colours to mix. So 97 percent red 1 percent blue 2 percent white (and as it fires it need more say 4 percent) I don't think my mixing of colours would be particularly easy to copy. And the colour ALWAYS looks a better much under electric lights than natural light, and the stinker is frying to dark now, luckily it needs a recoat anyway, as I have smoothed the pipe again (I forgot to do it last night...working whilst tired is not really s good idea) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnut Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 The Water pump is top drawer! Bet you saved a mint too? Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I did try Citadel colours with Warlock Purple. but it did't work, it is mostly Citadel evil suns scarlet a dab of enchanted blue (not too much or it goes purple) and some humbrol acrylic white 34 to lighten it, I have to paint it slightly lighter as when it dries it darkens a bit. I slap the red on then dip the brush just into the blue then add at least double the white and mix it on the model, add more white and adding a touch of water to help the colours to mix. So 97 percent red 1 percent blue 2 percent white (and as it fires it need more say 4 percent) I don't think my mixing of colours would be particularly easy to copy. And the colour ALWAYS looks a better much under electric lights than natural light, and the stinker is frying to dark now, luckily it needs a recoat anyway, as I have smoothed the pipe again (I forgot to do it last night...working whilst tired is not really s good idea) Is that sort of like out the fire, into the frying pan????? (love that auto correct, eh Jaz?) Funny you call them water pumps - I would have said "water column" or "water crane"... Nice work, no matter what you want to call it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Jukebox your absolutely right what mad nutter designed it to change dries and drying to fries and frying..... well your probably right because when i google that i get a lot of fire engines..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 The Water pump is top drawer! Bet you saved a mint too? Dave Dave (calling you doughnut seems so rude LOL) Your also absolutely right, they go for silly money and have done for a couple of years. The Hornby one regularly goes on ebay for 20-26£ and was only like £7 when originally sold. Hornby missed the boat when they remade the station had they done the pump at the other end, they would have got new buyers and old buyers wanting it as well!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 More interesting modeling Jaz great work buddy.. I can say the same for yours. I often drop in to see what you are unto, and steal ideas....oops I mean copy . As we were only just agreeing on Doughnuts layout, borrowing and perhaps adapting ideas off fellow modellers is one the fun aspects. Admitting you done it......only shows how much we admire others work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I started to add the ball at the end, and thickened the curved pipe and painted it, and again late at night and forgot to smooth the finish rmweb1754goathland1 smoothed the curved area again, continued to build up the ball The grey on the black is to represent the chain on the Hornby one. need to look at how to do the base area, and check the one I actually need to model....which is where I come across the same problem that hit Saquatch the top of the water crane is NOT the same rmweb1755goathland2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) The Hornby One geograph.co.uk They put their hose dead centre not off centre into the train. The little bit to the left is on the flat and not flat as Hornby made it, modellers licence....I think I am going to need some of that licence...... Edited May 8, 2014 by Jaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Who says ....you really need to research......AAAAArrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!! this is the other water crane......... excuse me while I go dunk my head in some water................... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Ok take a DEEP breath, I have calmed down, before dunking my head. I am going to complete this one ....for the moment ignore that my curved part is COMPLETELY wrong for this end. But address the cone top. Sp a ball a an upright with a cone top, and a incorrect curve, and a single hanging hose, which needs the box under it. If it looks like a dogs acts like a dog, and most people don't know which dog....you can probably get away with murder.....of the dog. plus people can compare our joint version of our model against the Hornby model. Albeit I am doing a box and not the drain that you see at the other end. When finished I'll add the cone. And move on for now, and perhaps revisit it at a later time. When some rivet counter (no offence) comes and points it out...and I can't stand the error anymore. I am off to the kitchen.....I think there's some wine in the fridge....I plan to chill out. Edited May 8, 2014 by Jaz 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Ok take a DEEP breath, I have calmed down, before dunking my head. I am going to complete this one ....for the moment ignore that my curved part is CMPLETELY wrong for this end. But address the cone top. Sp a ball a an upright with a cone top, and a incorrect curve, and a single hanging hose, which needs the box under it. If it is looks like a dogs, acts like a dog, and most people don't know which dog....you can probably get away with murder.....of the dog. plus people can compare our joint version of our model against the Hornby model. Albeit I am doing a box and not the drain that you see at the other end. When finished I'll add the cone. And move on for now, and perhaps revisit it at a later time. When some rivet counter (no offence) comes and points it out...and I can't stand the error anymore. I am off to the kitchen.....I think there's some wine in the fridge....I plan to chill out. Now that does sound like a plan, I'll bring the glasses and a packet of crisps, haha. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted May 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2014 Jaz, you've made a wonderful job of the water cranes, and they look fantastic. Moreover, they look like water cranes, so don't go knocking yourself out about minute detail differences. They look good, and you can always tweak things later. Cheers, Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Jaz, Al's right they are wonderful and 99% of modellers on here would be proud to own them. Can I put an order in for 250 please? to sell on at a HUGE profit of course. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnut Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Who says ....you really need to research......AAAAArrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!! this is the other water crane......... excuse me while I go dunk my head in some water................... Don't you just hate it when that happens!! A nice glass or 2 sounds like a excellent way to start rectifying things though! (ps. Dave or doughnut...i dont mind. After all, doughnuts are delish!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 The red the white and the blue The red rmweb1756goatlhand3 the blue...actually about 10 percent rmweb1757goathland4 mixed rmweb1758goathland5 the white rmweb1759goathland6 mixed a lighter shade, because it should darken as it dries rmweb1760goathland7 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted May 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2014 Jaz, As long as you do not put a picture of the real one next to it who is to know. It looks like a water crane, and it looks good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 At times like this i wish i had a lathe, trying to turn the wood in one hand while holding the dremmel in the other makes it a bit more rough than i wanted, im just Happy i didnt need to do it in 2mm 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 And that you still have ALL you digits!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 And on the layout It still needs the box rmweb1761goathland8 the hillside being built up the waterpower in the far left distance rmweb1762goathland9 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughnut Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 At times like this i wish i had a lathe, trying to turn the wood in one hand while holding the dremmel in the other makes it a bit more rough than i wanted, im just Happy i didnt need to do it in 2mm Just a wild thought, probably wont work, but would it be possible to hammer a thickish nail in the end of the piece of wood, as centrally as possible, then insert said nail & wood into the dremel and turn it with say a file or something, as you would a lathe? Shoot me down if its a daft idea?? Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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