RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 The latest information from Barwell (Today 13 June ) indicates an avalanche of new goodies on its way. Just like waiting for a bus.....they all arrive at the same time. Some of us will be filing for bankruptcy,I fear.After a long drought,the rains come. Mustn't grumble. We now have something tangible to look forward to at long last. Hallelujah ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markeg Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I am presuming that its all listed on their website. Is that right Ian? Will look and see if anything I have on order/want is coming. Mark in OZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 The latest information from Barwell (Today 13 June ) indicates an avalanche of new goodies on its way. Just like waiting for a bus.....they all arrive at the same time. Some of us will be filing for bankruptcy,I fear.After a long drought,the rains come. Mustn't grumble. We now have something tangible to look forward to at long last. Hallelujah ! I think it seems to have been a 'false dawn'.Latest view of their website shows many of the items have mysteriously vanished. Boat sunk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markeg Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Looks like only a half dozen or so items listed. Boat sunk! Hopefully not. Mark in OZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted June 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 Puzzling. Last week there were lots of items showing in the "expected within 60 days" section, including the much awaited Porthole coaches. Now they are gone - presumably they missed the boat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Could be they were expected at Barwell, having arrived they are not now expected? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 Just occurred to me... Bachmann is made in China, it then gets shipped to UK... Does it then get re-shipped, back to Oz? If it does, its ready for a heavy general. That's a lot of miles! "Sorry, you can't have a new 'hall' just yet. It's cashing in its air miles in Honolulu...." Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Can't comment for Bachmann, but an Australian retailer once told (probably about 6 years ago) me that Hornby products are shipped to an Australian distributor staright from China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 Could be they were expected at Barwell, having arrived they are not now expected? In which case they should be listed under 'Arrivals during the last 30 days' - and they aren't. However Bachmann's 'expected' details aren't always correct as stuff has turned up in the past that wasn't on their list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'm not sure exactly what you gents are looking at. On the 00 Locomotive pages, the S&DJR Jinty shows " § " meaning they're not committing a date, yet it has arrived in shops. the Earl says " Nov/Dec ". Is this stale from 2012, or are we now not expecting the Dukedog until the end of 2013? As of May 31, 2013. it was at "livery sample" stage. I notice the 57xx and 45xx in early Collett liveries are now Jul/Aug. There seems to be four sets of delivery estimates for steam locomotives: Jun/Jul, Jul/Aug, Nov/Dec, and Dec/Jan. This appears to be a significant delay to earlier expectations. In which case they should be listed under 'Arrivals during the last 30 days' - and they aren't. However Bachmann's 'expected' details aren't always correct as stuff has turned up in the past that wasn't on their list.Like the S&DJR Jinty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted June 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 The page we're looking at can be found under the Latest Arrivals tab on the home page, then select OO - or use this URL: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/new_arrivals.php?prod_selected=2 If you scroll down the page you see first items that have arrived in the last 30 days, then items that are expected in the next 60 days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 If you scroll down the page you see first items that have arrived in the last 30 days, then items that are expected in the next 60 days Thanks. I had looked at that page. I didn't notice this: Branchline OO Scale Arrivals due during next 60 days By my calculation 60 days from June 13 is well into August, yet none of the items on the "00 steam locomotive products" page showing a Jul/Aug availability are in the "next 60 days" list. Presumably Jul/Aug must mean late August then? EDITED to be more specific about steam locomotives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Thanks. I had looked at that page. I didn't notice this: By my calculation 60 days from June 13 is well into August, yet none of the items on the "products" page showing a Jul/Aug availability are in the "next 60 days" list. Presumably Jul/Aug must mean late August then? These are due Jun/Jul Class 47 47190 'PECTINIDAE' BR Petroleum Sector - DCC Sound Class 55 D9011 BR Two Tone Green 57ft. Ex-LMS Composite Coach BR Departmental Olive Green So falls into that class. Are you sure you are looking at the same page as everyone else? We don't have a date when these items were added just when the page was last modified. Jun/Jul is 60 days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Are you sure you are looking at the same page as everyone else? We don't have a date when these items were added just when the page was last modified. Jun/Jul is 60 days. Sorry, I should have said "00 Steam Locomotives" products page. I will edit the post to suit. But I wasn't talking about the Jun/Jul items - they are in the 60 day window. The Bachmann New Arrivals page was updated on June 13. 60 days from June 13 is mid-August. It is the Jul/Aug items I was referring to. Some products are slipping. That happens. Bachmann Branchline is providing updated data as it becomes available. Some of their estimates (like "Jul/Aug") are a bit optimistic sounding given the 60 day forecast, but theoretically these items could arrive in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 It looks like these will be added then next month. It appears they include the month they are in as part of the 60 days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 On the 00 Locomotive pages, the S&DJR Jinty shows " § " meaning they're not committing a date, yet it has arrived in shops. First batch of the S&DJR Jinty sold out very quickly, but Bachmann are going to do a 2nd run of these. Hence what appears to be a contradiction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 The product's page shows the porthole coaches as being "on order". The mystery deepens! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I did hear at the Bristol show that the porthole stock was going to be delayed - Shame for LMS fans - as soon as a maroon version is available I'll be able to justify a couple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2013 First batch of the S&DJR Jinty sold out very quickly, but Bachmann are going to do a 2nd run of these. Hence what appears to be a contradiction. So they can do a second run of this Jinty but not of the SECR liveried C Class, which is/was equally popular, surely. Hmmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Or is just the rest of the batch of the Jinties that are coming. Bachmann have always said they will not rerun a model exactly as previously produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2013 Or is just the rest of the batch of the Jinties that are coming. Bachmann have always said they will not rerun a model exactly as previously produced. I haven't noticed a lack of Jinties (S&DJR version) It seems to have been available continuously since it first arrived. maybe it's only a few box shifters that "sold out" Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Given an interesting story by my local model shop today, regarding delays to Bachmann production, that may link to the sudden disappearance of so many items from the 'Expected in next 60 days'. According to Bachmann trade rep, Bachmann UK production has been delayed at their factories in China to free up capacity to produce Hornby items as a priority. If true, this tends to indicate that Hornby production is more tied to Kader and Sanda Khan than they've indicated, it could also be a ploy to try and maintain credibility by Bachmann with their retail customers and end users. We'll probably never know but an interesting 'official' statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2013 Given an interesting story by my local model shop today, regarding delays to Bachmann production, that may link to the sudden disappearance of so many items from the 'Expected in next 60 days'. According to Bachmann trade rep, Bachmann UK production has been delayed at their factories in China to free up capacity to produce Hornby items as a priority. If true, this tends to indicate that Hornby production is more tied to Kader and Sanda Khan than they've indicated, it could also be a ploy to try and maintain credibility by Bachmann with their retail customers and end users. We'll probably never know but an interesting 'official' statement Might also be an attempt by Kader to hang on to business from Hornby who are planning to leave a much smaller percentage of their output with them in the coming year, or maybe they've heard that Hornby have not been happy with their performance (both true), or maybe the Bachmann rep couldn't come up with anything better (pure guesswork). What is known is that Kader have a lot of stuff in the pipeline at various stages of development and they have fallen behind for whatever reasons and presumably that is also affecting Bachmann's UK product? We'll hopefully know it's here once it arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I suspect the Hornby Maunsell SO and later this year the TO are being made by the former Kanda San plant which would account for a lot of the uncertainty and delay. They are the same quality as the earlier Maunsell coaches and show no evidence of the no frills design philosophy of recent Hornby offerings. Again, this is a suspicion, no known facts other than the quality of the finished product and the above statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted June 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2013 Puzzling. Last week there were lots of items showing in the "expected within 60 days" section, including the much awaited Porthole coaches. Now they are gone - presumably they missed the boat? All this reference to boats - hope as Adrian pointed out its not this one Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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