DJModels announce new models in N, OO and O

[Les1952]

Ooh, a typo nearly as good as some of my clangers.

 

Will the Baby Celtic come in white with green hoops?

 

Les

[Paddy]

Hi Paddy, yes it is.

Cheers

Dave

Thanks Dave - I will get my preorder in.

 

Paddy

[leighcollett1980]

Hi guys does anyone have a direct number to djmodels i have a trade account with them and have mislaid there phone number and need to find some info out on there new releases many thanks leigh

[DJM Dave]

Hi guys does anyone have a direct number to djmodels i have a trade account with them and have mislaid there phone number and need to find some info out on there new releases many thanks leigh

PM'd you

Cheers

Dave

[richard37670]

Just seen your doing the china clay pba wagon for Kernow models spot on been waiting for these wagons for year looking forward for them to arrive next year :-)

[switcher 1]

Still no 0 gauge - this is worse than Dapol!

[Karhedron]

Just seen your doing the china clay pba wagon for Kernow models spot on been waiting for these wagons for year looking forward for them to arrive next year :-)

On the subject, what is the chance of any of these lovely models that Kernow keep commissioning appearing in N gauge? I would be up for a D600, O2 and maybe even a Well tank if they existed.

[DJM Dave]

Maybe one day Matt, who knows? :-)

[Roy L S]

Who wouldn't be up for a Beattie Well Tank in N, that would be a (rare these days) "Rule 1" purchase for me certainly.

 

Preferably 30585 with the round rather than square splashers!

 

Roy

[cornish trains jez]

Just seen your doing the china clay pba wagon for Kernow models spot on been waiting for these wagons for year looking forward for them to arrive next year :-)

 

Any chance of an N gauge version!?!??

[DJM Dave]

Hi Jez,

 

No plans at present I'm afraid as I have my hands full for the next 24 months with my announced items.

Cheers

Dave

[queensquare]

Who wouldn't be up for a Beattie Well Tank in N, that would be a (rare these days) "Rule 1" purchase for me certainly.

 

Preferably 30585 with the round rather than square splasher.

 

Here you go Roy, Beattie's in 2mm. I built the shed  etc but the locos are the work of the brilliant John Greenwood

 

 

Jerry

[lakeview770]

Looking for a project for next year and to fill that back wall and corner, so a O Gauge J94 may fit the job.

 

Andy

[BR_Blue_1986]

What's the progress on the 7mm baby deltic?

 

Cheers

[DJM Dave]

What's the progress on the 7mm baby deltic?

Cheers

Hi, it's been cad/cam'd and is currently waiting it's turn in the tool room.

 

This will happen once a few have been released to allow for cash flow.

 

For further updates, please keep looking at the 'timeline' page of my website for all updates.

Cheers

Dave

[steve fay]

Hi, it's been cad/cam'd and is currently waiting it's turn in the tool room.

This will happen once a few have been released to allow for cash flow.

For further updates, please keep looking at the 'timeline' page of my website for all updates.

Cheers

Dave

Not that I'm interested in buying one, but I would like to see it do well so that it leads to other locos I would like to buy

[BR_Blue_1986]

I'm hoping in producing diesels that you may show up Heljan, price wise and detail wise seeing as they have the mainline diesel 7mm rtr monopoly.

 

Especially as monopolies can exploit the customer.

[Igor]

I've struggled to keep up with all the announcements, and I know others have too. The DJM website is not easy to navigate (it's more of a blog) and needs updating to make the all the proposed products clearer. I've tried to make a list so that those interested can keep updated. Hope this makes a good reference! It might be useful to put delivery dates on if time can be found. Similar lists for other companies might also be worth doing. Forgive me if I've missed anything or made any mistakes. Regards Igor.

DJM OO gauge:
J94 0-6-0 tank Announced: Sept 2013 5 versions
Hudswell 0-6-0ST Announced: July 2014 4 versions
Class 59 diesel Announced: July 2014 4 versions
LNER Q6 0-8-0 Announced: July 2014 5 versions

Kernow commissions (all OO gauge):
PBA Clay wagon Announced: July 2014
GWR 1361 tank Announced Aug 2014 5 versions
LSWR Road van Announced Sept 2014
Class 117 etc DMU Announced Nov 2014 9+versions
GWR Railmotor Announced Nov 2014 5 versions
O2 Steam loco Announced: Nov 2013 Take-over
LSWR Gate Stock Announced: Nov 2011, Take-over Nov 2013
D600 warship Announced: March 2008, Take-over Nov 2014
2-4-0 Beattie Well Announced: July 2014 re-run
J94 0-6-0 tank LMR commission

Hattons commissions:
J94 0-6-0 tank Industrial 10 versions commissions Nov 2014
GWR King 4-6-0 Announced: Sept 2014 15 versions
GWR 14xx 0-4-2T Announced Nov 2014 16 versions

DJM & Kernow pre-pay:
Class 71 Announced: July 2014 5 versions
Class 74 ????

RMweb commission:
J94 0-6-0 tank 1 version commission

FTG (project manage):
SPA wagon Announced: March 2011 Take-over Nov 2013

DJM N gauge:
Class 17 Clayton Announced: Sept 2013 7 versions
Class 23 Baby D Announced: Sept 2013 5 versions
J94 0-6-0 tank Announced: Sept 2013 5 versions
Class 59 diesel Announced: July 2014 4 versions
GWR 63xx 2-6-0 Announced: July 2014 4 versions
Hudswell 0-6-0ST Announced: July 2014 4 versions
LNER Q6 0-8-0 Announced: July 2014 5 versions
Virgin Pendolino Announced: Aug 2014 Crowd-funded Taken-over by Rapido
GWR Railcar Announced: Aug 2014 Crowd-funded Failed/Cancelled

DJM O gauge:
J94 0-6-0 tank Announced: Sept 2013 5 versions
Class 23 Baby D Announced: Sept 2013 5 versions

[iL Dottore]

I'm not very happy with Mr Jones at the present. This Gentleman has not only taunted me with the promise of a GWR 1361 tank and a GWR Railmotor via Kernow Models;  a GWR King and a GWR 14xx via Hattons, BUT he is also making me wait for them! Where's instant gratification when you need it?

 

Joking aside, I am very pleased by these announcements and whilst neither the railmotor nor the King are truly suitable for my layout (era/location), who cares? I am sure that I can find some sort of plausible explanation for their inclusion in my fleet.

 

It will be interesting to observe what the pundits will say if a head-to-head comparison is made between the DJM and Hornby King models. Even with all else being equal, I think that Dave's customer commitment and QC standards will give the DJM model the edge. Some have also bemoaned the 14XX as being a duplicate of an existing (Hornby) model. Quite frankly, although a neat little model, it is very much long in the tooth and a state-of-the-art model is long overdue.

 

I am looking forward to getting these models.

 

iD

 

p.s. if a corporate customer would commission a GWR toplight to current standards from DJM, I would be a very happy camper indeed and immediately sign up to buy quite a number (and probably get into hot water with SWMBO due to an "excessive number of purchases")

[jsp3970]

Oh, I missed the news that the Kernow D600's had been taken over by DJM. This item is high on my want list so am happy that something is happening now!

[adrianbs]

Hi  Igor  et al.   Well done, you must be a true rivet counter to have checked up on all those projects, I thought the number had only reached about 120 versions including all livery variations ( You did not give those in some cases such as 10 x LSW road vans and 7 x O2s and 4 x Gate stock )  I have no idea how many versions of some other items will be done but one could assume at least 4.  This means you have identified about 40 more than I had roughly counted.    Should put DJ models on a par with Hornby in 2 years time, just wonder how the half a million pound losses by the latter have been been achieved under the circumstances prevailing here and in China, bearing in mind how few totally new models Hornby have spent money on recently ..        Regards  adrianbs

[woodenhead]

What are you getting at Adrian?

[adrianbs]

Hi  All,  You ask what I am getting at.  At the present moment both Hornby and Bachmann have released trading figures which show significant losses I believe. Both companies already have enormous established ranges to fall back on financially and, as we all know, have not released many totally new products on the UK market over the last 2 years.  They have therefore not been investing proportionally a great deal of money in new tooling compared to their overall expenditure.  Whilst their losses are not all due to the UK market for model railway products it does give a very bleak picture of current trading conditions.  Bachmann have already announced, earlier in the year, HUGE price rises and if the next round of Chinese Government 20% wage rises comes in during the 2nd quarter of 2015 there is little doubt that prices will rise again.   In order to compete with Bachmann it seem that Hornby have decided to avoid massive price rises by reducing trade discounts to about half and going for direct online marketing, often offering discounted items at less than trade price, on their shop site, when they have surplus stock.. I believe they have suggested that since there is no retail price maintenance in operation now, shops that find they cannot survive with the reduced discounts are perfectly at liberty to sell ABOVE RRP.  There is less than a snowballs chance in hell that shops will be able to try that one on with their customers who will immediately quote the Hornby list price as an absolute maximum or they will buy elsewhere.

 

,  The smaller retail shops and perhaps some of the larger mail order specialists will be badly hit by this as apart from Hornby Railways with all it's sub divisions they also often stock   Scalextric. Corgi, Vanguards, Airfix kits and Humbrol paints, all of which come under the Hornby umbrella and which I assume will also be subject to the same discount levels.  Unless the newcomers are able to produce enough new products to replace all these income streams within one or two years the shops may have gone by then. Many are already having a hard time as has been noted earlier with lack of supply of new and existing lines from Hornby and also from the newcomers.  Hornby may well be quite happy to see many retail outlets close having set up their own outlets and mail order department. Not only will this increase their margins but will mean that other suppliers such as Bachmann, Dapol, DJ Models and Oxford rail who sell or wish to sell via these shops will have a reduced number of stockists.

 

    It may be pure coincidence that Hornby have been working on a Radial tank, GWR King and class 71 electric but their announcement is clearly intended to make potential customers think twice about committing to other models before a comparison of the models can be made, even if Hornby are slower (Delberately ??) to the market..    Since the actual rate of introduction of new products by the newcomers has not exactly been significant it seems unlikely this will stave off the problems of retailers.  Hornby have yet to announce their full program for 2015/6 so there just might be other unwelcome news for the new entrants to this market and Bachmann may also decide that competition would be good for the market and especially for them.  Committing to the sort of range announced by DJ Models leaves them open to duplication but we all know " All's fair in love and war"  Bachmann and Hornby both have very large armies and powerful weapons and are not going to lie down and be walked over.

       Regards all  adrianbs

[woodenhead]

Well why didn't you just say that!

 

This will spark a much different debate.

[DJM Dave]

Well why didn't you just say that!

 

This will spark a much different debate.

hopefully in a different thread area too ;-)