RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2014 Looks slightly wider than the 5" timber to me. I would say probably 6" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 that should work out at 2mm so ill give that a whirl, there is a measurement of the top 3 boards but again its just a bit unreadable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2014 There's a 6 x 1 batten above it and it looks wider than that? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think it says 5x1 on both of them but its not very clear, but 2mm seems to match up to my drawing of the internal concrete strusses, they are not shown on those drawings they just show the outer roof and glazing. I did try with other sizes but they didnt match up. The lower part isnt that straightforward as the 2 centre ones were winged so they didnt foul the strusses, this is one of the reasons I am thinking on etched brass or nickel so it can be bent and has strength. ill add all those battens too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 I have printed off the plans to scale then stuck them to some card so I can check if everything is ok, best to do this now before anything is cut on the laser cutter. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Nice work Mike! Who owns the B1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 thats mine, needs its brakegear reattaching, renumbering and weathering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Nice job sir! Bring it to Wigan and it may get an airing! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 One reason for missing boards could be that they were constantly going between hot/cold/wet/dry, wouldn't do even the best wood any favours, in earlier days they would have been repaired and replaced. I think these were a cheap option as I have a drawing from 1950 2 years earlier for new concrete chutes and chimneys and a 6 road shed. Also got drawings for the original cheshire lines shed which was a very ornate wooden 6 road shed with roller doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Also got drawings for the original cheshire lines shed which was a very ornate wooden 6 road shed with roller doors.I thought the original (CLC -1881) shed was of brick construction and 4 roads? Also roller doors? - very unusual if not unique (and expensive) for the period. Was that plan on paper ever put into reality or was it just a proposal, is there a date on it? As far as I am aware the structure was always brick (including the 1885 2 road extension) which could well have been on the original plan 4 years earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 looking at them again (I only glanced at them) its not the main doors and probably a proposal as they say "extension of engine shed" on them no dates on them. The concrete one I am modelling dates from 1923. there is a few drawings I had to ignore as they are similar but proposed drawings. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I wonder if that was a proposed timber extension along the existing 4 tracks of the original brick shed? Even the sliding roll-around doors would have been quite an innovation for a loco shed. Though of course that design was in use for many a barn door but straight along the wall. Shame about no date. Some clarity on why the rebuild from brick to concrete in 1923 would interest me. Was this an entire rebuild of the then 6 track shed or was it more of a cladding exercise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) looking at the TIFF files I could zoom right in for a date, thats still not to say this was built, it was supported by iron girders inside. the rebuild was a total rebuild, nothing left inside, when the brick shed office was demolished which was part of the shed it left behind its brick wall supporting the shed, that was the only part of brick on the shed can see one of the wooden shed offices in the 1927 shot in this link. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/features/walton_on_hill_shed/index.shtml edit, reading that link the shed was extended in 1885 to 6 roads so maybe that is what the drawings are for. Edited March 6, 2014 by Michael Delamar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 edit, reading that link the shed was extended in 1885 to 6 roads so maybe that is what the drawings are for.The date confirms that it is too late for the original shed. That was along the lines I was thinking. May well have been a proposal put to CLC for consideration but they decided on going down the more useful enlargement to 6 roads in brick. The timing is perfect. Would be interesting to see if such a decision was minuted and recorded by the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 the 2 small brick buildings, the office and the smithy are in the same set of drawings with the same date, we know they got built as they lasted until after the shed closed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 This is the kind of info I like to have, not sure exactly where AWB (apply wagon brakes) was done, somewhere just before the tunnel id imagine, id still like to find a sectional appendix and working timetable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 recently I stuck together all the Templot prints and tonight I took them down to the club to see what it looks like in full scale, Im happy with it, I only had my phone to take a few snaps. once a lot of the clubmembers went home we placed it on the boards for their new Corwen layout so that we could work out the fiddle yard curves. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I had a nice weekend at Alexandra palace, stocked up on some supplies, the 4fs I managed to get before the scrum, nice bargain. Also chatting to Graham Hubbard of Bachmann, he said he went to Walton on the hill in the early 60s, I asked him what he saw there, usual suspects but a couple of interesting ones, a Bescot Stanier Mogul and one of Edge hills Super Ds. I was pleased to hear that as I have a super D and always liked them but didnt think they would have got here or on the CLC, I did think if so it must have been rare. so an excuse to run mine on the layout. Edited March 24, 2014 by Michael Delamar 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 That flows well.... recently I stuck together all the Templot prints and tonight I took them down to the club to see what it looks like in full scale, Im happy with it, I only had my phone to take a few snaps. Liverpool-20140318-02318.jpg once a lot of the clubmembers went home we placed it on the boards for their new Corwen layout so that we could work out the fiddle yard curves. Liverpool-20140318-02328.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 you did a great Job, the shed and coaling stage mocks ups line up perfectly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 you did a great Job, the shed and coaling stage mocks ups line up perfectly It feels like years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) work will start soon, again I cant set it up until after our show when we have a reorganise of the clubroom. also recently ordered 4 boxes of 10 x1 metre length SMP track, the Dolgellau lads were ordering their track for their new layout so we got a nice discount for ordering in bulk. Edited March 24, 2014 by Michael Delamar 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 A layout is born 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 AND you got it ready cut! Result!! :boast: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I gave him a "drink" tip for doing it all as there was loads of 4" strips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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