Horsetan Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) K4 in due course.....? Some hope. Hi. Here's some photo's of the K1 that arrived yesterday. This first one shows the brass bearings: 100_6324 - Copy.JPG This one is the revised pony truck, which is a big improvement on the L1 and others: 100_6325 - Copy.JPG Here I've attempted to show the tender pick-ups: 100_6328 - Copy.JPG This photo' is showing that this side of the footplate is ever so slightly wonky: 100_6331 - Copy.JPG Finally I could not resist a photo' of the K1 on the layout: 100_6334 - Copy.JPG Hope that these photo's are of some interest... Compare and contrast with this one from here Edited December 16, 2014 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2014 Some hope. Compare and contrast with this one from here Looks like bowed foot plates aren't exclusive to Hornby.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) There *is* a preserved K4... It can be done in (apple) green with names. There weren't many K4s of course—but that hasn't put Hornby off before! I second the request for a J27—it's about the only remaining NE area loco from the last years of steam still to be either done or at least announced; the others (K1, Q6, V1/3, J72, Ivatt 4MT, Austerity, plus the V2 and the Gresley and Peppercorn Pacifics, O1 and 9F; not to mention the diesels too... 03, 04, 08, 17, 24, 25, 37, 40, 46, 47, 55) have all been the subject of at least reasonable models. Edited December 16, 2014 by D9020 Nimbus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2014 Some hope. Compare and contrast with this one from here Yup, both look like pretty good models of K1s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Model Q6's are rare ATM. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 There *is* a preserved K4... It can be done in (apple) green with names. There weren't many K4s of course—but that hasn't put Hornby off before! I second the request for a J27—it's about the only remaining NE area loco from the last years of steam still to be either done or at least announced; the others (K1, Q6, V1/3, J72, Ivatt 4MT, Austerity, plus the V2 and the Gresley and Peppercorn Pacifics, O1 and 9F; not to mention the diesels too... 03, 04, 08, 17, 24, 25, 37, 40, 46, 47, 55) have all been the subject of at least reasonable models. Dont forget that B16, J21, G5, A5... The North East is a region ripe for development as a lot as you say has been done, but then Ive said that for sometime too. As regards the K4, while the preserved one might boost its chances and make it popular overall, its position in wishlists has been going downwards, particularly with it then being assosiated more as a Scottish model. Back on topic, Hornby's K1 is really looking the part, especially when compared to previous efforts for the class. For me, the conistancy of modern RTR means that it wins out, so Im looking forward to more K1s landing to go alongside the stablemate here. Question is, which ones to model. Having checked the model, I think the smokebox door is seperate so theres chance still for 2008 or 2011 with that gorgeous NER style frontage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted December 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) The North East is a region ripe for development It would surely make more sense for Hornby to continue with the solid GE section theme they are currently developing, rather than switch focus to a new region and perhaps squander the effort so far expended. While the B17, Britannia, now the K1 and the forthcoming J15 and D16 are a great start, there are still very obvious gaps in the range to be addressed. A new tooling of the venerable B12 has long been talked of and with clever use of slides it could possibly also be made to represent the original GER 1500 class, which would look magnificent in full pre-grouping livery (and of course a few of these locos were based at Gorton in LNER days to work the North Country Continental). Where too are the all the various Buckjumpers, the J17 and the J20? Or (most inexplicably of all) the Derby Heavyweight DMUs that worked down the Loop Line from Lincoln? Indeed mention of the Loop Line is a good reminder of the GN locos that also need to be considered before this range can be thought of as anything like complete. There is much work for Hornby still to do before they can afford to be distracted by the products of Darlington. Edited December 16, 2014 by Flying Pig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Where ever Hornby go next. I'm sure they'll demonstrate joined up thinking. Ideally locos with a wide demographic. Either way we'll all know by this time tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It would surely make more sense for Hornby to continue with the solid GE section theme they are currently developing, rather than switch focus to a new region and perhaps squander the effort so far expended. While the B17, Britannia, now the K1 and the forthcoming J15 and D16 are a great start, there are still very obvious gaps in the range to be addressed. A new tooling of the venerable B12 has long been talked of and with clever use of slides it could possibly also be made to represent the original GER 1500 class, which would look magnificent in full pre-grouping livery (and of course a few of these locos were based at Gorton in LNER days to work the North Country Continental). Where too are the all the various Buckjumpers, the J17 and the J20? Or (most inexplicably of all) the Derby Heavyweight DMUs that worked down the Loop Line from Lincoln? Indeed mention of the Loop Line is a good reminder of the GN locos that also need to be considered before this range can be thought of as anything like complete. There is much work for Hornby still to do before they can afford to be distracted by the products of Darlington. Or maybe you have a head start and its our turn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I mentioned the K4 merely because one was rebuilt as the prototype of the K1. The preserved K4 is also a mainline runner and must have been seen by many a potential customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hi all Received a parcel from rails today, k1 looks fantastic and will fit in with my 1980's North East based layout Anyhow is there a fix for the wonky footplate?, I haven't had time yet to take it apart though. Regards Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyhow is there a fix for the wonky footplate?, I haven't had time yet to take it apart though. My own personal opinion but why should there be a fix? I'd be interested to hear how many of these models have undulating running plates and if Hornby are aware. We are paying premium prices for these models. It should be right in the first place. Porcy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_2007 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Rails still has them in stock if my order of 30mins ago is anything to go by Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Rails still has them in stock if my order of 30mins ago is anything to go by I was on the phone to Rails this morning (see earlier post) and they received a delivery while I was asking how they had managed to sell the K1 I paid for on Monday to someone else. It looks like Hornby have made a second shipment. I wouldn't be surprised if 43078Shildoncountydurham has mine. Anyway, mine should be on the way now. Frustrated from Durham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 My own personal opinion but why should there be a fix? I'd be interested to hear how many of these models have undulating running plates and if Hornby are aware. We are paying premium prices for these models. It should be right in the first place. Porcy Same undulating running plate as the Thompson 01, which, by the way, is now a Tyne Dock 01, thanks to Dave Alexander. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I was on the phone to Rails this morning (see earlier post) and they received a delivery while I was asking how they had managed to sell the K1 I paid for on Monday to someone else. It looks like Hornby have made a second shipment. I wouldn't be surprised if 43078Shildoncountydurham has mine. Anyway, mine should be on the way now. Frustrated from Durham Hi Rbage Ordered mine about 6pm last Friday the 12 dec, anyhow let's hope yours doesn't have this wonky footplate! Regards Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 My K1 arrived this morning at 07.30! Only ordered it late Friday night so despite all the problems that the courier services are moaning about, this looks like a result for Royal Mail / Parcel Force. The footplate has a very slight wobble but I wouldn't have noticed it if it hadn't been mentioned on here earlier. One thing I did have to do was to remove the body and reposition it as it had not been properly fitted at the factory. The cab end was correctly attached but the front was high with a 2-3mm gap between the top of the cylinders and the footplate. Two screws was all it took the release the body but it is a tight fit around the motor. A large application of the family motto (Brute force & ignorance will conquer all) was required to separate the body from the chassis and then reassemble by getting the front end in place first and then the cab end. Retighten the screws and all is well. Loco is running in nicely as I type and looks like a winner for Hornby. Now, any word about the D16 I ordered earlier in the year? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hi Rbage Ordered mine about 6pm last Friday the 12 dec, anyhow let's hope yours doesn't have this wonky footplate! Regards Craig Hello Craig, Received this morning. Wonky footplate. Bob :-( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hello Craig, Received this morning. Wonky footplate. Bob :-( Mine arrived this morning, it looks like the same problem as the O1's had, so easily fixable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Mine arrived this morning, it looks like the same problem as the O1's had, so easily fixable. Hello split definative, Would you like to share the fix. Maybe a blow by blow account, with photographs? Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hello split definative, Would you like to share the fix. Maybe a blow by blow account, with photographs? Bob I will do, once I've had a chance to the run the loco in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlink Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I have just taken delivery of three of these wonderful locos and all of them have the wonky footplate! I have dismantled one of them to fit a decoder so while apart I had a look at the footplate. On the side that was wonky I found the location where one of the sandboxes were fitted to be the culprit in that its locating pin and glue were pushing down on the chassis causing it to lift the footplate. Simple solution file off the excess glue and part of pin that sticks through which seems to have cured the problem. Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2014 Ok folks things are about to get technical and have your sonic screwdrivers at the ready... The wonky running plate, my solution. Exhibit A: Straight edge showing how much (or less) distortion to the running plate. Step 1. Using the box innards, invert the loco and disconnect the tender plug and undo the screws for the body. Step 2. Remove the body - the first time, it requires a fair bit of force (as stated by Jim49 in a previous post), the running plate goes virtually straight on removal. Step 3. Clean any flashing visible on the underside of the running plate (not shown) Then carefully remove the motor brackets to gain access to the motion bracket securing screw (radius arm - I think) Step 4. Undo the bolts on the on the centre driving wheel to disconnect the radius arm gubbins (nice technical term) and begin to lightly file down the bracket. Step 5. After a few trial re-fittings and a bit more filing it was ready fro reassembly. Step 6. After re-assembly, putting a straight along the running plate, shows a vast improvement (not perfect, but it will do): All back together and awaiting detailing: Hope this helps... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2014 Like the "North British " diamond works plate.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Like the "North British " diamond works plate.... Very nice works plate but it wasn't present on the loco at the time that the model represents. See Yeadon's volume 18, page 72. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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