robmcg Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) If only Hornby would see value in a newly-tooled Caley Single. Might look something like this. Actually it would be better with state-of-the-art lining. Perhaps I should have put this in the 'Model that Hornby Could Make but Probably Won't' All inspired by a recent purchase... Surprisingly not that common in good order. Could have chosen a fully lined version from a set but rather like the plain version. Edited July 20, 2018 by robmcg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 .... I'm struggling to think of any NER engine which looks good... From among the Worsdell 4-4-0s and Worsdell, Smith and Raven atlantics there are some very handome machines, not one of which has ever received a RTR OO model. For me it would be between the Worsdell R (D20) and V (C6) for top spot among NER express types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 To my LMS/GWR eyes, the North Eastern Railway had some great designs. The large wheel 4-4-0's such as the D20 and the M in the NRM are about as beautiful as they come. The NER Atlantics too were the best and a lot less ungainly than anyone else's 4-4-2's. But like many things, they are unlikely to be produced in mass by the RTR companies......and for good reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 To my LMS/GWR eyes, the North Eastern Railway had some great designs. The large wheel 4-4-0's such as the D20 and the M in the NRM are about as beautiful as they come. The NER Atlantics too were the best and a lot less ungainly than anyone else's 4-4-2's. But like many things, they are unlikely to be produced in mass by the RTR companies......and for good reason. Ah yes I had forgotten the D20. And the M, and the Wordsell Brothers, compounding or not, jJoy vs Stephensons. Great days of railway development. I think the NER capacity for doing no-nonsense work is also praiseworthy. It's just that me mum was born in Guildford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 On the subject of the 1895 Great Race to the North, I have yet to receive books I have ordered on the subject, whatever happened to instant gratification? I have however devised a picture which gives an idea of the look of the Caledonian Railway Single 123 if anyone made one to the standard of the Radido/NRM Stirling Single. Also, and on the subject of desirable 4-4-0s, the engine from which the Single was derived in 1886, the '66' class 4-4-0. I am not well supplied with knowledge about which exact locos were used where in the races, but I am guess in a Class 66 was used for the last leg of the West Coast run on 23 Aug 1895... first the Caley Single. Caledonian 123 as perhaps Hornby could do. I used a pic of a Hornby T9 to create a likeness of a class 66 4-4-0, someone will tell me if it wasn't used in the 1895 races. In due course I will receive the two books on the subject which are on their way to me. Of course Hornby have done other beautiful 4-4-0s. One has to ask if anyone is quietly planning an SECR D class... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Adherence to thread title. This is in my opinion the best ever Hornby model, aftermarket weathering helps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Funny you should say that, as I put this forward as Hornby's best from the fine super detail down to the superbly sculptured wheel profiles....plus a spot of what comes naturally....... Edited July 25, 2018 by coachmann 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Funny you should say that, as I put this forward as Hornby's best from the fine super detail down to the superbly sculptured wheel profiles....plus a spot of what comes naturally....... WEB 38XX 6.jpg Isn't there something missing, to do with valve operation? I agree it's a very fine model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Isn't there something missing, to do with valve operation? No. the valve spindle is there although it may not be in line with the vacuum cylinder. It is missing off the current 'Grange'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcyg Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Adherence to thread title. This is in my opinion the best ever Hornby model, aftermarket weathering helps. 34003_Bulleid_portrait90_2abc_r1200.jpg Have to agree there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted July 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2018 You boys are making it difficult for me to adhere to a tank locomotive only locomotive shed.... So far I've managed to keeping the 28's & 38's out of the picture. Cheers, Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2018 No. the valve spindle is there although it may not be in line with the vacuum cylinder. It is missing off the current 'Grange'. The valve spindle may be there but the reverser rod is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) No. the valve spindle is there although it may not be in line with the vacuum cylinder. It is missing off the current 'Grange'. As Hilux said, the reversing rod is missing on your model Larry. It is a very fine piece of RTR modelling in my view. And yes on your model the vac cylinder is not in line with the spindle, as well. Edited July 26, 2018 by robmcg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 The reversing rod was always 'one of those jobs' I intended to sort. Peters Spares to the rescue...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2018 No. the valve spindle is there although it may not be in line with the vacuum cylinder. It is missing off the current 'Grange'. Having got both of the current Granges, I can confirm they are missing the vac cylinder, but Aberforth Grange (R3552 GWR Shirtbutton) has the valve spindle, where as Llanvair Grange (R3452 BR Late Totem) does not. Nothing a bit of modelling know how and styrene can't fix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2018 Isn't there something missing, to do with valve operation? 38XX_portrait1_1a_1abc_r1200a.jpg I agree it's a very fine model! You do have to watch some of the last SK releases as the wiring can catch fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 You do have to watch some of the last SK releases as the wiring can catch fire. You mean some people actually run Hornby models? Seems like asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2018 Yep it's blog entry time again... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/135/entry-21133-a-little-fokker-eindecker-eiii-a-very-small-build/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) fokker_13.jpg Yep it's blog entry time again... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/135/entry-21133-a-little-fokker-eindecker-eiii-a-very-small-build/ Or, as the RFC might have said in 1915, "They're right fokkers...." Edited July 30, 2018 by Hroth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 31, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2018 Or, as the RFC might have said in 1915, "They're right fokkers...." There may be a RFC plane coming up in future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Something decent like a Camel or an S.E.5 perhaps? At least not a B.E.2..... I bet you're going to do a B.E.2C so the Fockker can pounce on it... Edited July 31, 2018 by Hroth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Or, as the RFC might have said in 1915, "They're right fokkers...." A classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) Here's the Airfix BE2C kit. Very detailed mouldings Not sure this shows too well but the fabric texture is very well done. And well printed waterslide transfers. While their new kits are a high standard imho, older kits that now have much better transfer markings supplied look better as well. Think that's also where Hornby have succeeded over the years with upgrading older railway stock with a better finish as well as brand new mouldings. Anyway, re Hornby's best models - new Airfix kits have certainly raised the modelling bar. Edited August 1, 2018 by railroadbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Hroth mentioned Camel and Se5a. Here are 2 I made earlier. Made these several years ago, they are Revell kits 1:72 kits. Didn't rig them as I wasn't sure I could get a fine enough wire to be taut enough. (I'm now wondering about handrail wire). I think these are probably the same mouldings as kits I made as a teenager! However, like Airfix, the markings are now a much better quality, Revell's are printed by Cartograf in Italy. There's been a lot of controversy about the shade RFC green (or brown) colours, actually were. (PC-10 spec). Rather like discussions about GWR/BR green. I mixed up a green shade based on various published research and colours of aircraft in museums etc. I airbrushed this as part of my on-going "how to get airbrush to work properly" research. :-) When I assembled the Camel I needed a little bit of touch-up paint. Having used up the original mix, :-( it took ages to get to a similar shade. All finished, I discovered that the colour I had produced was exactly the same as Tamiya olive drab.... There's a moral here somewhere. So if I do another RFC WW1 fighter I know what paint to easily use! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted August 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2018 Hroth mentioned Camel and Se5a. Here are 2 I made earlier. P1300877ed.jpg Made these several years ago, they are Revell kits 1:72 kits. Didn't rig them as I wasn't sure I could get a fine enough wire to be taut enough. (I'm now wondering about handrail wire). I think these are probably the same mouldings as kits I made as a teenager! However, like Airfix, the markings are now a much better quality, Revell's are printed by Cartograf in Italy. There's been a lot of controversy about the shade RFC green (or brown) colours, actually were. (PC-10 spec). Rather like discussions about GWR/BR green. I mixed up a green shade based on various published research and colours of aircraft in museums etc. I airbrushed this as part of my on-going "how to get airbrush to work properly" research. :-) When I assembled the Camel I needed a little bit of touch-up paint. Having used up the original mix, :-( it took ages to get to a similar shade. All finished, I discovered that the colour I had produced was exactly the same as Tamiya olive drab.... There's a moral here somewhere. So if I do another RFC WW1 fighter I know what paint to easily use! I used 0.1mm diameter nylon jewelers wire for the rigging on the Eindecker - which worked a treat. I may well go up to 1/48th for my next WW1 plane, as Eduard do a fantastic Bristol F2.B Fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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