RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the North West photo's. 45332 makes a fine and nostalgic sight at the head of that freight train at Milnthorpe. Plenty of classic cars to bee seen in the last two photo's, including an Austin 1100 at Runcorn Bridge in the last photo'. It has the later radiator grill. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2017 J487. One for the "tie the wagon sheet down like a christmas present" school of modellers, nary a stray rope in sight, and the potential for flapping cover.. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 The north west in the late 1960s today. Milnthorpe LMS Class 5 45532 down freight April 66 J486.jpg ilnthorpe LMS Class 5 45332 down freight April 66 J486 David Are you sure it's 45332? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted May 11, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Are you sure it's 45332? Only in so far as that is the number dad wrote in his notes, he could be wrong, it's not unknown. Edit In fact it is 45282. I've just gone back and checked the black and white photo I took of the same train. I cannot post it here as I sold the negative some time ago. David Edited May 11, 2017 by DaveF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the North West photo's. 45332 makes a fine and nostalgic sight at the head of that freight train at Milnthorpe. Plenty of classic cars to bee seen in the last two photo's, including an Austin 1100 at Runcorn Bridge in the last photo'. It has the later radiator grill. With warmest regards, Rob. 1100's identical to my first car aged 17, LOD 3844 F, only paid 40 quid for it, got 50 back when I sold it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Ah Runcorn Bridge. We went over it a couple of weeks after it had been opened, on our way to a camping holiday in the Lake District. It was over 50 years before I crossed it again, this time on the push bike while cycling from Lands End to John O'Groats. Still looking good. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted May 11, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Photos on the Grantham to Nottingham line taken between Aslockton and Nottingham, with one from the Cotgrave branch for this afternoon. Aslockton Class 37 D6830 westbound empty coal Sept 68 J1429 08.15 SO Hull to Colwick many thanks to jonny777 for the information. Radcliffe on Trent (Saxondale) D8178 and another ex LNWR trackbed in foreground June 69 J1715 Bridge on Cotgrave branch near Stragglethorpe 9th June 89 C11980 Netherfield station view west June 80 J6952 Netherfield station view west June 80 J6954 Nottingham Trent Lane level crossing May 74 J3668 David Edited May 12, 2017 by DaveF 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 The last picture is interesting with the two bridges and level crossing in such close proximity. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2017 J1429 is a gem. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hi, Dave. I love the Grantham to Nottingham photos. As stated the first one is a real gem, and you can also see how the multiple working cable on the drivers side buffer of the 37 has been 'twirled' around the top of it - an interesting detail to apply to a model. And that level crossing is so remarkable! I've certainly not seen one in between two bridges before - it must have been most unique. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Photos on the Grantham to Nottingham line taken between Aslockton and Nottingham, with one from the Cotgrave branch for this afternoon. f Aslockton Class 37 D6830 westbound coal Sept 68 J1429.jpg Aslockton Class 37 D6830 westbound coal Sept 68 J1429 ga Radcliffe on Trent (Saxondale) D8078 and another ex LNWR trackbed in foreground June 69 J1715.jpg Radcliffe on Trent (Saxondale) D8078 and another ex LNWR trackbed in foreground June 69 J1715 k Bridge on Cotgrave branch near Stragglethorpe 9th June 89 C11980.jpg Bridge on Cotgrave branch near Stragglethorpe 9th June 89 C11980 lc Netherfield station view west June 80 J6952.jpg Netherfield station view west June 80 J6952 lc Netherfield station view west June 80 J6954.jpg Netherfield station view west June 80 J6954 na Nottingham Trent Lane level crossing May 74 J3668.jpg Nottingham Trent Lane level crossing May 74 J3668 David Another set of fantastically atmospheric photos today David. Thank you for sharing with us. With regards to photo J1715, the loco cannot be D8078 as it had headcode boxes, it must be D8178. Also note the member of traincrew emptying the tea can out of the cab of the rear loco, (I assume it's the rear loco), unless they are travelling wrong road, in which case it's the front loco. Paul J. Edited May 11, 2017 by Swindon 123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 And that level crossing is so remarkable! I've certainly not seen one in between two bridges before - it must have been most unique. Not only between but passing under the far bridge. Hope Dave doesn't mind me posting this link to his pic that popped up on Flickr yesterday. The next level crossing on a the line a few hundred yards or so to the West. https://flic.kr/p/UFejtn P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 The last picture is interesting with the two bridges and level crossing in such close proximity. andy Our club is slowly building a model of the Trent Lane area see here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74756-nottingham-model-railway-society/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted May 11, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2017 Another set of fantastically atmospheric photos today David. Thank you for sharing with us. With regards to photo J1715, the loco cannot be D8078 as it had headcode boxes, it must be D8178. Also note the member of traincrew emptying the tea can out of the cab of the rear loco, (I assume it's the rear loco), unless they are travelling wrong road, in which case it's the front loco. Paul J. Paul, Thanks for the note about the loco number, it must indeed be D8178. I suffer from the faults of most caption writers - if I can get it wrong I will. The tea is indeed being emptied from the rear loco, they are working right line. Not only between but passing under the far bridge. Hope Dave doesn't mind me posting this link to his pic that popped up on Flickr yesterday. The next level crossing on a the line a few hundred yards or so to the West. https://flic.kr/p/UFejtn P Porcy, I am perfectly happy for you to post that link to flickr - it's one of my own photos on my flickr site! It may already be in this thread somewhere, if not it will appear at some future date. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted May 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2017 Some different places on the Midland Railway for today. Hazelwell MR Bristol to Birmingham line April 71 J2628 Kingsbury MR Derby to Birmingham bridge over A423 May 71 J2637 Melton Junction Class 25 and foam buffer stop under construction on test track March 72 J2841 Melton Junction Class 25 and foam buffer stop under construction on test track March 72 J2842 Melton Junction Class 25 and foam buffer stop under construction on test track March 72 J2843 Melton Junction Class 25 up freight Aug 72 J2997 David 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 J2997. This could well be one of D7660 - D7677, unless it's a 1967 -1969 repaint, due to the 4 cabside arrows. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Midland Railway photo's. I think I can see why foam bufferstops did not get anywhere! lol What a remarkable sight it makes in those two photos, but I suppose the idea had to be tried out. That last photo shows a brake dust begrimed class 25/3. Mike may well be right about it having undergone a repaint, but what a deplorable external condition! With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think I can see why foam bufferstops did not get anywhere! lol What a remarkable sight it makes in those two photos, but I suppose the idea had to be tried out. Was it because you needed a mile of it to stop a train? Shucks that means there would be no room in a terminus for trains with those in place! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Was it because you needed a mile of it to stop a train? Shucks that means there would be no room in a terminus for trains with those in place! Keith It would have been a long walk to the concourse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 ISTR the foam "bufferstops" were actually an idea to replace sand drags, to try and cut down on damage to loco's when they overran loops etc. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) J1429... 8M74 was the 0815 SO Hull to Colwick due Aslockton at 2pm, so would fit the sun angle; and the coal wagons would be empties. Edited May 12, 2017 by jonny777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 It would have been a long walk to the concourse.. Not only that, but imagine everyone getting covered in foam too! A potty idea! lol Regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) J2997. This could well be one of D7660 - D7677, unless it's a 1967 -1969 repaint, due to the 4 cabside arrows. Mike. I'm going to stick my neck out on the identity of the 25 in J2997 as 7609 my reasoning is thus. Of D7660-D7677, D7660 didn't have 4 arrows, it only had 2 under the drivers window. the 2nd number was under the D/A's side window, and by 1970 it had a central arrow anyway. Of the remaining, D7671 to D7677 had the numbers too low down to be the one in the photo, and they were positioned closer to the cab doors. The one in the photo had the RH number nearer to the center of the boiler grill, and almost right under it. D7661/4/8 had central arrows by the time of the photo. The positioning of the others in the D7662-70 had the same problem of number position being nearer to the cab than the one in the photo. Of the other three locos of that body style I've found with 4 double arrows on the cabside, 5283, D7642 and 7562, (not 7675), the numbers on 5283 and D7642 are too low to be the loco in the photo. The only one I can't be sure about is 7562 as the only photo I have of it is of No 1 end so I don't know how high the numbers are in relation to the boiler grill, so it could be a contender. Of course there could be other locos out there with 4 double arrows i haven't photos of that could equally be candidates. So my candidate is 7609. Paul J. Edited to correct a mistake with one of the numbers. Edited May 13, 2017 by Swindon 123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted May 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 J1429... 8M74 was the 0815 SO Hull to Colwick due Aslockton at 2pm, so would fit the sun angle; and the coal wagons would be empties. Many thanks for the information. As it was a photo Dad took in September it would have been taken on a Saturday, and the time fits, he often went out to take photos after an early lunch. I'm going to stick my neck out on the identity of the 25 in J2997 as 7609 my reasoning is thus. Of D7660-D7677, D7660 didn't have 4 arrows, it only had 2 under the drivers window. the 2nd number was under the D/A's side window, and by 1970 it had a central arrow anyway. Of the remaining, D7671 to D7677 had the numbers too low down to be the one in the photo, and they were positioned closer to the cab doors. The one in the photo had the RH number nearer to the center of the boiler grill, and almost right under it. D7661/4/8 had central arrows by the time of the photo. The positioning of the others in the D7662-70 had the same problem of number position being nearer to the cab than the one in the photo. Of the other three locos of that body style I've found with 4 double arrows on the cabside, 5283, D7642 and 7675, the numbers on 5283 and D7642 are too low to be the loco in the photo. The only one I can't be sure about is 7562 as the only photo I have of it is of No 1 end so i don't know how high the numbers are in relation to the boiler grill, so it could be a contender. Of course there could be other locos out there with 4 double arrows i haven't photos of that could equally be candidates. So my candidate is 7609. Paul J. Many thanks Paul for the time that must have taken you to work out. As for foam bufferstops - was it anything to do with the APTE testing as this was a part of the Old Dalby test tack? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) AFAIK the foam arrester was part of the APT program, and was actually run through by a peak on one occasion, with the peak and its train ending up in the ballast upto its axles somewhere the other side of the bridge Dave was stood on. I can't seem to find the photos at the minute, maybe they are buried in the APT-E model pages.... Andy G Edit: Kit Spackman talks about it here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114295-apt-pop-train-kit-under-design-construction/page-2 post 32 onwards. Photos here: http://www.apt-e.org/Barry_May/Collection_1/BarryMay_1.html Edited May 13, 2017 by uax6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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