RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Pilmoor, in May and June, 1968. In the last photo’, of the Neptune system track recording car, in June, 1968, your Dad has taken an excellent and well composed shot of the car. The photo’s from Lincolnshire, at Holton le Moor, Melton Ross and Brocklesby, are an excellent selection. The first photo’ at Holton le Moor, with a Class 114, on a Cleethorpes to Lincoln service, in September, 1963, is a beautifully composed shot, and it can be seen that a four wheel, 12ton box van is being hauled by the unit. What a delightful set of photo’s of Switzerland, at Kreuzlingen, on the 2nd August, 1988. In the first photo’, of MThB, ABDe4/4, 11, on a Konstanz to Weinfelden service, you have taken a beautiful shot which is expertly composed of the unit. Finally, the photo’s of the Great Western, around Taunton and at Swindon, are a splendid selection. In the first photo’, at Taunton Silk Mill Crossing, with Hymek, Class 35, D7000, on a down cement train, in August, 1966, your Dad has taken a fantastic photo’ of the first Hymek. With warmest regards, Rob. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted July 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2023 16 hours ago, DaveF said: Another visit to Switzerland, this time to Kreuzlingen, by the Bodensee next to Konstanz which is in Germany. At the time of taking the photos it was served by the SBB and the Mittel Thurgau Bahn. It is now served by Thurbo which was founded founded jointly by the SBB and MThB in 2001. MThB was liquidated in 2003. Kreuzlingen MThB ABDe4/4 11 Konstanz to Weinfelden 2nd Aug 88 C09993 Kreuzlingen SBB Re4/4ii 11110 Rorschach to Schaffhausen 2nd Aug 88 C09994 Ee3/3 on right Kreuzlingen MThB ABDe4/4 13 Weinfelden to Konstanz 2nd Aug 88 C09995 Kreuzlingen 2nd Aug 88 C09999 signalbox Kreuzlingen SBB Re4/4i 10031 Rorschach to Schaffhausen 2nd Aug 88 C10001 David Just superb! Thanks Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 11, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Some phpotos around the Southern this morning from the 60s and 70s. The loco numbers in the Pirbright Junction photos are probably right, I think Dad took them off the slides. A note for those of you who study the captions. You will have realised that the file numbers usually run by date. The second photo today does not - at one time Dad catalogued his ship photos separately, later he moved the railway owned ships into his railway catalogue, just using the next numbers in the sequence. It sometimes causes me problems when I look for specific images. Newhaven diesel shunter April 64 J099 Newhaven SNCF MV Dieppe March 64 J1467 Deepcut Bridge Road west of Pirbright Junction Class 42 D856 Trojan Exeter to Waterloo July 67 J0978 Deepcut Bridge Road west of Pirbright Junction Class 42 D811 Daring Waterloo to Exeter July 67 J979 Waterloo Platform 6 June 75 C2139 David Edited July 11, 2023 by DaveF 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Can I ask those in the know; how long did ex - SR hauled stock last after steam haulage ended ( which was around the date of J0978/9)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1968 I believe, none received Blue Grey. Once electrification to Bournemouth was completed and the West of England services downgraded there was less need for so many loco hauled coaches on the Southern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Hi Dave, Photos J0978 & J0979 were taken from Deepcut Bridge Road overbridge some 2m west of Pirbright Junction itself. The curve in the distance is where the line curves to pass under the Basingstoke canal in a brick-arch aqueduct. The cutting is very deep here giving its name to the adjacent settlement that sprang up at the coming of the railway - one of the more exhausting access points to the track - a lot of steps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3007026,-0.7099341,3a,75y,281.19h,93.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU6pst0qM6VoBTPRMYzwMMA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu Edited July 11, 2023 by Southernman46 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 11, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 Chirch Lanr level crossing on the Great Eastern in the 1970s. Church Lane level Crossing Class 47 up ex pass Nov 74 C1831 Church Lane level crossing Class 31 down 19th April 75 C1990 Church Lane level crossing 306002 Chelmsford to Liverpool St June 75 C2072 Church Lane level crossing Class 309 601 Clacton and Walton to Liverpool St Dec 75 C2536 Church Lane Crossing Class 312 Liverpool St to Colchester Dec 76 C3123 David 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, DaveF said: Deepcut Bridge Road west of Pirbright Junction Class 42 D856 Trojan Exeter to Waterloo July 67 J0978 Rare to see a North British Class 43 on the Waterloo - Exeter route. The trains were normally Swindon built Class 42s because very few if any drivers signed the 43s at the requisite depots. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 11, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 The next batch of photos were taken on the Great Central just south of Nottingham, immediately to the north of the River Trent around Nottingham Goods. Once again Dad was using his track permit for these. Nottingham Goods GC O1 63910 up goods c1950 JVol7008 Nottingham Goods south approaching Wilford Bridge O1 up goods c1950 JVol3279 Nottingham Goods south approaching Wilford Bridge O1 up mineral c1950 JVol3278 Nottingham Goods South B1 up ex pass c1953 JVol7321 Nottingham Goods South J11 c1950 JVol3260 David 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted July 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, 62613 said: Can I ask those in the know; how long did ex - SR hauled stock last after steam haulage ended ( which was around the date of J0978/9)? Don't forget the Southern region diesel fleet were 'electric heat only' so Bulleid stock was got rid of ASAP. Thats why some of it got painted Maroon and sent up to Scotland - while Mk1 stock went south either for loco haulage or incorporation into EMUs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Nottingham Goods south approaching Wilford Bridge O1 up mineral c1950 JVol3278 Nice photo of a an ex Private trader wagon similar to GWR diagram N31 with pair of side doors and pair of end doors. The end door stripe is attractive in being a mirror image and not going to the bottom of the body side. None of the similar wagons in Dave Larkins Acquired wagons volume 2 has the marking as this. Is the running number readable? Paul 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, phil-b259 said: Don't forget the Southern region diesel fleet were 'electric heat only' so Bulleid stock was got rid of ASAP. Thats why some of it got painted Maroon and sent up to Scotland - while Mk1 stock went south either for loco haulage or incorporation into EMUs My memory is that they disappeared almost overnight. Now realise why! Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 11, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, hmrspaul said: Nottingham Goods south approaching Wilford Bridge O1 up mineral c1950 JVol3278 Nice photo of a an ex Private trader wagon similar to GWR diagram N31 with pair of side doors and pair of end doors. The end door stripe is attractive in being a mirror image and not going to the bottom of the body side. None of the similar wagons in Dave Larkins Acquired wagons volume 2 has the marking as this. Is the running number readable? Paul It is a bit too blurred to read the number on the original scan, but it but it looks as though it starts P254 and ends in 2 David 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 11, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 We enf today at Crewe on 13th March 1971. There were a lot of mailbags, a postal strike had ended a few days previously. Crewe Class 47 1983 and Class 40 279 both in green down ex pass 13th March 71 C484 Crewe Class 101 Crewe to Shrewsbury 13th March 71 C491 Crewe Class 121 Crewe to Cardiff 13th March 71 C502 Crewe Class 47 1960 up parcels 13th March 71 C503 Crewe centre 304021 Crewe to Manchester , Class 86 E3142 le on left, Class 50 404 down ex pass on right 13th March 71 C508 David 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s an excellent set of photo’s around the Southern from the 60’s and 70’s. In J0978, at Deepcut Bridge Road, west of Pirbright Junction, with Class 42, D856, Trojan, on an Exeter to Waterloo service, in July, 1967, that’s a superb photo’, and enlarging the photo’, the seventh vehicle can be seen, just, to be a maroon liveried Gresley buffet car. The domed ends to the roof, and beading can just be made out. The photo’s of Church Lane level crossing, on the Great Eastern, in the 1970’s, are a superb selection. In C1990, with an unidentified Class 31, on a down express train, on the 19th April, 1975, that’s a delightful shot, and again, on enlarging the photo’ I think I can see something of interest in the formation. Vehicles six and seven appear to be former Metro Cammell Pullmans. I stand to be corrected on this, but the waist is higher than the standard Mkl’s, and the windows have sliding vents. They don’t look like early Mkll’s since they have the Mkl tumble home. What a splendid set of black and white photo’s of the Great Central, immediately north of the River Trent around Nottingham Goods. In JVol7321, of a class B1, on an up express passenger train, in c1953, that’s a superb and atmospheric shot. The first carriage is a former GNR Gresley, non corridor, BCK. Finally, the photo’s of Crewe, on the 13th March, 1971, are of much interest, and I recall the postal strike well. In the last photo’ which is an excellent panoramic shot, with, in the centre 304021, on a Crewe to Manchester service, then Class 86, E3142, light engine, on the left, and Class 50, 404, on a down express passenger train, on the right. It can be seen that 304021, has it’s set number in white, which is something I don’t recall too well. With warmest regards, Rob. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 12, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 I didn't get chance to post this morning so here at last are the photos. Some photos of the Bowes Railway which is south of Gateshead for those who do not know the area. They were taken at Mount Moor level crossing on what was the rope worked incline between Blackham's Hill and Black Fell. IMG_0185 Bowes Railway Mount Moor level crossing view to Blackhams Hill 5th March 2016 IMG_0186 Bowes Railway Mount Moor level crossing view to Black Fell 5th March 2016 IMG_0187 Bowes Railway Mount Moor level crossing view to Black Fell 5th March 2016 IMG_0188 Bowes Railway Mount Moor level crossing from the north 5th March 2016 IMG_0189 Bowes Railway Mount Moor level crossing from the south 5th March 2016 David 44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 12, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Now for some on the Great Eastern at Cambridge, March and Whittlesford. Cambridge from the north east. Sept 76 C3012 Cambridge looking north Sept 76 C3013 March Class 105/101 Peterborough to Cambridge Aug 72 C1032 March Class 105/101 Peterborough to Cambridge Aug 72 C1033 Whittlesford Class 37 Liverpool St to Cambridge Sept 76 C3004 Whittlesford Class 37 Liverpool St to Cambridge Sept 76 C3005 David Edited July 13, 2023 by DaveF 46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 12, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Some photos in Derbyshire. I'm sure you all know exactly where these were taken. Alfreton and Mansfield Parkway Class 47 down light engine Aug 75 C2267 Ambergate avoiding line 170102 up pass going away 24th March 02 C25804 Bamford MR view west June 69 J1739 Bamford Class Class 110/101 hybrid New Mills Central to Sheffield Midland June 69 J1740 Pleasley MR at lower level and GNR at higher level June 69 J1749 David Edited July 12, 2023 by DaveF 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2023 J1470 is a cl.110 this end and a Met-Camm (101) at t'other. The lined-green centre car could be a 110. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 12, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 Having caught up it is now time for the final set for today on the ECML in Northumberland. Most of them were taken at Morpeth with one a few miles south at the site of Stannington Station. Morpeth Class 47 up ex pass Aug 81 C5529 Morpeth Class 37 up coal Aug 81 C5531 Morpeth Class 254 up and 47292 down pw in loop 28th Jan 84 C6402 Morpeth Class 101 Newcastle to Alnmouth 18th April 85 C6817 Morpeth newly painted brake van 18th April 85 C6820 Stannington LC Class 101 Morpeth to Newcastle April 81 C5351 David 46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 12, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a delightful selection of photo’s of the Bowes Railway at Mount Moor level crossing, on the 5th March, 2016. . In IMG_0188, looking from the north, you have captured an excellent view of the building, although I’m not sure what it was used for. The photo’s of the Great Eastern at Cambridge, March and Whittlesford, are a fascinating set. The last photo’ of the Whittlesford Class 37 hauled train from Liverpool St. to Cambridge, in September, 1976, shows a grimy, rusty looking Mkl’s end. It is just perfect for modellers. That’s a great selection of photo’s of Derbyshire. In J1740, at Bamford, with a three car unit on a New Mills Central to Sheffield Midland service in June, 1969, your Dad has captured an excellent scene of a hybrid set. A Metro Cammell car leads - it’s not possible to say whether it is class 101 or 111. The other two cars are class 110, with a TSL, and a DMCL. Finally, the photo’s of the ECML in Northumberland, at Morpeth with one at the site of Stannington Station, are a superb set. In C5531, at Morpeth, with a Class 37, on an up coal train, in August, 1981, you have taken a beautifully composed shot of the 37 hauled train. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 12, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, DaveF said: Having caught up it is now time for the final set for today on the ECML in Northumberland. Most of them were taken at Morpeth with one a few miles south at the site of Stannington Station. Morpeth Class 47 up ex pass Aug 81 C5529 Morpeth Class 37 up coal Aug 81 C5531 Morpeth Class 254 up and 47292 down pw in loop 28th Jan 84 C6402 Morpeth Class 101 Newcastle to Alnmouth 18th April 85 C6817 Morpeth newly painted brake van 18th April 85 C6820 Stannington LC Class 101 Morpeth to Newcastle April 81 C5351 David Great pictures as usual David. c6820 is unusual. I don't think I ever saw Vac piped only van in railfreight . Think I've seen them in Dutch but this is a first for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted July 12, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 hours ago, DaveF said: Whittlesford Class 37 Liverpool St to Cambridge Sept 76 C3005 David The box at Whittlesford looks in very poor condition and incredibly survived for another 5 years or so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2023 Another view of the Whittlesford box the same year: Jonathan 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Further to the DMU corrections, David, C1032 & C1033 are a Class 105/101 hybrid, rather than a 105 pair. I'm sure that (somewhere) I would be able to locate set formations from that time and tell you what vehicles Norwich set 57 was - but, at present, I have no idea where to look! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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