Wolf27 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Top speed without any setting changes, 2:00. Cheers Shane 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 My rails are laid to 6' minimum radius, although kinks have developed over the years. It belts around flat out with no trouble, clouting nothing, although I haven’t dared try it out on the inner track with a victim train on the outer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitmen Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Mine goes around my kato track full speed with no probs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) The road-holding is superb and I'm guessing that the combination of the rigidity imposed by the articulation and the benefit of actually tilting assists the model just like it did the real thing. The tilt system had no effect on how well the train took the curves, it was intended solely for passenger comfort, somewhat ironic considering the advent of 'tilt sickness' on the APT-P some years later. The curving ability of both APTs was due to Prof. Alan Wickens wheel/rail interaction work in the late 60s and early 70s, and centered on the wheel profile and the suspension system on the bogies. To prove the lack of titling had no adverse effect on curving we did some test runs over the instrumented curve at Upper Broughton on the Test Track with TC1 tilted the WRONG way on the curve. This pic shows us setting up with the train standing still on the curve and TC1 is tilted right onto the bump stops, that's 12 degrees the wrong way. The second pic shows the actual test as the train passed over the curve. TC1 wasn't quite tilted the whole 12 deg. this time, it was more like 9 deg. but as I was aboard it during the test it felt like it was on its side!! The test parameters were that we should not exceed the lateral forces exerted by a Deltic at 100 mph, even though we were doing around 130 at the time, and it was just fine when we looked at the results. Edited April 30, 2016 by Mr_Tilt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I have finally received my new toy only to discover I have two PC1s and no PC2! One could argue I have won on this affair compared to the pour soul with two PC2s and no PC1. Given mine is supposed to be sound fitted is there any way of identifying which is the correct PC1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Take the upper body shells off and see which one has the decoder fitted, and that's the proper PC1. Of course you may have TWO PC1s, in which case the guy with two PC2s is REALLY in trouble! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 A fellow RMWEB member earlier in this thread uses Train-Safe http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87114-the-official-rapido-apt-e-thread/?p=2165089 Following his excellent advice I got one myself from the Hobby Shop in Faversham. (Note the one I have is a Train-Safe Vision) Train-Safe-APT-E.jpg Train-Safe-APT-E-pic2.jpg Really nice case and if you buy the Vision version you can add the adaptor shown in this video you have no need to handle the APT-E to place it on and off your layout. (Note there are several different versions of the Train Safe some with rails fitted which can be powered up and some without rails fitted) I just added an extra siding with the adaptor. John Really nice case's, Mine's the same, Fits in the 1200mm with no problems. There not the cheapest but I wouldn't put the E-Train in anything else, also have the Travel 1200mm as well so easy to move or transport about when need to, Got a 3000mm on order for the (Silver Snake "Service Use") but it's going to be another 2 weeks before that arrives. Where I'm going to put it or move it is beyond me, Should have thought about that first!!! Hey Ho safety first, At least the E-Trains will be safe. Regards Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Take the upper body shells off and see which one has the decoder fitted, and that's the proper PC1. Of course you may have TWO PC1s, in which case the guy with two PC2s is REALLY in trouble! Thank you for your suggestion. Looking inside from the articulated bogie end I can see a DCC chip in one and nothing in the other. All of this does not explain why the false PC1 does not move when coupled to the rest of the train, nor do the headlights come on. I think there may be more to this than just an incorrect body shell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Thank you for your suggestion. Looking inside from the articulated bogie end I can see a DCC chip in one and nothing in the other. All of this does not explain why the false PC1 does not move when coupled to the rest of the train, nor do the headlights come on. I think there may be more to this than just an incorrect body shell. Try removing one of the bogie units from a power car and connect both power cars together, see if that works, Even if all connectors look right it's always worth double checking then triple checking, they can be a swine to connect! Check my video of "service Use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38BFStuMUBA" You can see PC-2 stall out on the first run, this was a connection issue, it was not intended, but ran fine with PC-1 leading. Due to the connectors there's no tolerance for any play within them. Regards Craig. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Thank you for your suggestion. I have connected both power cars back-to back accross a single articulated bogie and they both work in this formation. This suggests a connection problem somewhere within the trailer cars then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Interesting, someone has listed a sound equipped APT-E on GreedBay for an opening price of £325, which compared to the vertiginous prices the others are currently listed at, from just shy of 600 Sovs to just short of 750, is verging on the reasonable. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BR-Advanced-Passenger-Train-APT-E-Rapido-NRM-Locomotion-DCC-Sound-Brand-New-/121971604982?hash=item1c6612fdf6:g:5JcAAOSw3v5XI5qc Looks like not all APT resellers go by the name of Robin Bersturde. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Thank you for your suggestion. I have connected both power cars back-to back accross a single articulated bogie and they both work in this formation. This suggests a connection problem somewhere within the trailer cars then. That's good news, but I would strongly recommend you contact Sandra at Locomotion models to find out what's best to do regarding 2 PC-1's, you may need to send the entire set back so they can sort out what went wrong and supply you with PC-2. They may be a delay in response as it is May Day Bank Holiday in the U.K, Regards Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I have spoken to Locomotion this afternoon but there was no-one there dealing with models, they won't be in until Tuesday as you say. It is bank holiday here on Thursday which leaves a short window! At least I have had it running and can confirm it makes a lot of noise but does negotiate all of the obstacles on my layout including a tunnel, rock faces and bends close to walls. I have had to stop playing with it now as the neighbours will start complaining about the racket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I have spoken to Locomotion this afternoon but there was no-one there dealing with models, they won't be in until Tuesday as you say. It is bank holiday here on Thursday which leaves a short window! At least I have had it running and can confirm it makes a lot of noise but does negotiate all of the obstacles on my layout including a tunnel, rock faces and bends close to walls. I have had to stop playing with it now as the neighbours will start complaining about the racket. Yes she is a noisy little thing, just wish I had a layout to annoy the neighbours!!! One day soon, Hopefully! Regards Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's certainly as effective as my Benny Hill album for upsetting small furry animals and other sensitive souls. I shall have to dig out the ear plugs for future running sessions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcs_095 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 To Sandra At Locomotion I am a bit concerned as to the whereabouts of my Sound APT-E . I just tried to send you a email but got a reply that your inbox is full There is also an unread PM to you on this site. Hoping to here from you soon John I will message Sandra on here as well - as I'm worried about where my one might be too (no sign of it in Sunny Canberra)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcs_095 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Mine goes around my kato track full speed with no probs. Glad to hear they go alright on kato track - I have a heap of unitrack that creates the temporary layout all around my little apartment whenever I find time to run my fleet, so its good to know that the APT-E is a happy chap on that track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I have finally received my new toy only to discover I have two PC1s and no PC2! One could argue I have won on this affair compared to the pour soul with two PC2s and no PC1. Given mine is supposed to be sound fitted is there any way of identifying which is the correct PC1? Hi, I've sent you a message Cheers San Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Hi all I'm on holiday today because it's a bank holiday but I'll check the thread throughout the day. Any queries, problems etc let me know Cheers San 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2016 Glad to hear they go alright on kato track - I have a heap of unitrack that creates the temporary layout all around my little apartment whenever I find time to run my fleet, so its good to know that the APT-E is a happy chap on that track What a good idea for those of us with an APT and a plank. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 21C123 Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2016 Well silent number 15 has made it to NZ, and even evaded customs :-) so no extra 15% GST and customs fees and service fees and tea money and...... Took a while to get going, PC2 went with PC1 but not at the end of the train. Eventually traced to a misaligned connector in the centre bogie, though the coach lights all worked power wasn't getting through. Clearance on the layout is okay, just, but the track around two points will need attention, one on the down and one on the up so it hasn't made a full circuit yet. Roger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotionatShildon Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I will message Sandra on here as well - as I'm worried about where my one might be too (no sign of it in Sunny Canberra)! Hi, I've sent a pm to you. Model in Australia but needs you to contact ups. Cheers San Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 In my next house, my new train room is just under our bedroom. As my wife tends to go to bed early, I wonder if she will like the sound of a jet under the floor boards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmotrutta Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 In my next house, my new train room is just under our bedroom. As my wife tends to go to bed early, I wonder if she will like the sound of a jet under the floor boards? Tell her you just bought a Dyson and you are cleaning the house... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonklein611 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Tell her you just bought a Dyson and you are cleaning the house... The new Dyson APT-E, never loses suction... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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