Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I did some work in the shed this morning and had a play with my latest... I don't know what youtube does, but the sound is significantly better in the flesh. I've got F6 (speed lock) on in this video, which allows me to rev the engine and not go anywhere. (unintentional, haha!) I have to say that I am finding DCC sound adding hugely to my enjoyment. I am using RealDrive, and it makes driving much more interesting. I've been using DC since I were a lad (first train set, 1975) and I started looking at DCC in 1996 when I first got into US outline stuff. No sound at that point. 23 years later, it finally does what I want - it mimics the behaviour of a real loco independent of any switches, sections, gubbins and so on. In my case, it really is just two wires as well. This is not to denigrate my DC chums, just my personal journey into finding a new way to enjoy my toy trains. Eventually, I aim to have a fleet of DCC sound equipped locos and an analogue mechanical signalling system as that is the combination that interests me most, and replicates the era I am modelling. I say modelling, I mean having fun with. Some WR diesels will start making appropriate noises over the next few months. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Tomorra I will use Chrome on the flip-flop Can I save you the trouble: 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 20:08, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Steve Not yet. I am not too sure how they would take it, and having been ignored in the past when I tried to help a company not too sure if I will. Hi Clive, We don't bite, honest! Attached is our cad overlaid onto a photo of the real thing to demonstrate that the cantrail is indeed correct. It can be difficult to decipher on white on white CAD renders when it comes to shape etc. We should have a blog detailing processes on developing it in the coming days actually. Cheers, Fran 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: I did some work in the shed this morning and had a play with my latest... I don't know what youtube does, but the sound is significantly better in the flesh. I've got F6 (speed lock) on in this video, which allows me to rev the engine and not go anywhere. (unintentional, haha!) I have to say that I am finding DCC sound adding hugely to my enjoyment. I am using RealDrive, and it makes driving much more interesting. I've been using DC since I were a lad (first train set, 1975) and I started looking at DCC in 1996 when I first got into US outline stuff. No sound at that point. 23 years later, it finally does what I want - it mimics the behaviour of a real loco independent of any switches, sections, gubbins and so on. In my case, it really is just two wires as well. This is not to denigrate my DC chums, just my personal journey into finding a new way to enjoy my toy trains. Eventually, I aim to have a fleet of DCC sound equipped locos and an analogue mechanical signalling system as that is the combination that interests me most, and replicates the era I am modelling. I say modelling, I mean having fun with. Some WR diesels will start making appropriate noises over the next few months. Very nice, you need some nice high quality rolling stock to go behind it now. I know a man.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2019 MTK DMU update, the BRCW now no longer borrows the Cravens trailer chassis as its trailer now has its own chassis. More importantly the Cravens is now self propelled. Hopefully tomorrow the Gloucester. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 hours ago, 071 said: Hi Clive, We don't bite, honest! Attached is our cad overlaid onto a photo of the real thing to demonstrate that the cantrail is indeed correct. It can be difficult to decipher on white on white CAD renders when it comes to shape etc. We should have a blog detailing processes on developing it in the coming days actually. Cheers, Fran Hi Fran, Are you at Ally Pally this year? If so can I come and have a prod and poke of the 3D printed model you had on display at Warley, please? That way I can see it better than trying to compare photos. I was just having a quick browse at some photos of St Paddy and looking at pictures of the same loco I cannot make up my mind where the curve on the grilles starts. I am at the show all weekend with my tiny layout Pig Lane (British Railways Western Region) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Fran, Are you at Ally Pally this year? If so can I come and have a prod and poke of the 3D printed model you had on display at Warley, please? That way I can see it better than trying to compare photos. I was just having a quick browse at some photos of St Paddy and looking at pictures of the same loco I cannot make up my mind where the curve on the grilles starts. I am at the show all weekend with my tiny layout Pig Lane (British Railways Western Region) Hi Clive, not 100% sure I’ll be there yet, but we are at Glasgow? I will say that the CAD used for the print has had corrections made to it (as that is its purpose of course) but I think the CAD overlay on the image above is pretty conclusive evidence that it is correct, is it not? It is certainly the CAD that is being used for tooling as it has been extensively bench pressed, but if I am there certainly drop by for a chat and look. Always good to put faces to names and have a natter! Cheers! Fran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 8, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, 071 said: Hi Clive, not 100% sure I’ll be there yet, but we are at Glasgow? I will say that the CAD used for the print has had corrections made to it (as that is its purpose of course) but I think the CAD overlay on the image above is pretty conclusive evidence that it is correct, is it not? It is certainly the CAD that is being used for tooling as it has been extensively bench pressed, but if I am there certainly drop by for a chat and look. Always good to put faces to names and have a natter! Cheers! Fran Hi Fran I am at Glasgow as well. I am there with my friend's layout and I have been asked to bring along some of my cut and shut efforts to display. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Fran I am at Glasgow as well. I am there with my friend's layout and I have been asked to bring along some of my cut and shut efforts to display. Great Clive, if you drop over to our stand on the Friday or the Saturday you can meet our designer who will be able to talk you through everything before he returns home on Saturday evening. Cheers! Fran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, 071 said: Great Clive, if you drop over to our stand on the Friday or the Saturday you can meet our designer who will be able to talk you through everything before he returns home on Saturday evening. Cheers! Fran You're a brave man, Fran - or at least your designer will need to be... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 03/02/2019 at 15:42, Clive Mortimore said: It was always D1575 on the front when I use to trainspot at Bedford Midland Road. I do believe the Master Cutler was the only named train to go to three different London termini, have two different departing stations in Sheffield and to have been a Pullman at one point in time. GCR, Sheffield Victoria to Marylebone GNR, Sheffield Victoria to Kings Cross, Pullman MR, Sheffield Midland to St Pancras Finally managed to get back on the forum after a bit of a tussle, so apologies for being late to the party. You've missed out Midland to Kings Cross, Pullman, Clive. Mike. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Stubby47 said: You're a brave man, Fran - or at least your designer will need to be... It's easy to be brave when you know you're right but I do enjoy a debate. Mind you, my previous work in political communication was a cake walk compared to working for a model railway manufacturer! Cheers, Fran 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 8, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, 071 said: It's easy to be brave when you know you're right but I do enjoy a debate. Mind you, my previous work in political communication was a cake walk compared to working for a model railway manufacturer! Cheers, Fran Hi Fran There is no need to be brave, I am only trying to help. We already have one thing to agree on....politicians are easier than railway modellers. I was a parliamentary lobbyist when I was a union representative. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Fran There is no need to be brave, I am only trying to help. We already have one thing to agree on....politicians are easier than railway modellers. I was a parliamentary lobbyist when I was a union representative. I know you are Clive, I said it in jest as a response to Stubby's joke. We always appreciate help. Cheers! Fran 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I wouldn't want to say anything one way or the other about what's correct, but I would observe that actually being correct and "feeling right" are not necessarily the same thing. I have a recollection from when I used to do train simulation games, there it was apparent that some models, even if built from the BR drawings just didn't capture the essence of the real thing until some changes were made to make it less accurate. I suspect that's down to things like the viewpoint that enthusiasts typically have in real life as against the fact that a plastic or computer model can be seen from every angle imaginable. So in that field at least it was possible to be completely accurate but still not "right". That might not be relevant to the particular issue at hand, though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 8, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Zomboid said: I wouldn't want to say anything one way or the other about what's correct, but I would observe that actually being correct and "feeling right" are not necessarily the same thing. I have a recollection from when I used to do train simulation games, there it was apparent that some models, even if built from the BR drawings just didn't capture the essence of the real thing until some changes were made to make it less accurate. I suspect that's down to things like the viewpoint that enthusiasts typically have in real life as against the fact that a plastic or computer model can be seen from every angle imaginable. So in that field at least it was possible to be completely accurate but still not "right". That might not be relevant to the particular issue at hand, though. Hi Zomboid I know what you mean, I have a Lima class 20, looks like one but isn't right and that shows up against the Bachmann model which is more accurate but I still think the Hornby Doublo Type 1 captures the feel of a Chopper and I don't think there is one thing right with it. Should the mood take me and I get this one finished.......It isn't looking very well is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish_R_M Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Stubby47 said: You're a brave man, Fran - or at least your designer will need to be... I had pints with Paul O'Connell once, we both survived. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2019 Last night I did eventually get the Gloucester DMU running. That is four more operational, not finished DMUs for Exchange. I will have a bash over the weekend to get the Tri-ang cut and shut Cravens going Brummmm Rattle Brummm Rattle. Last nights tune 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 It must be great to have to many locos ,the Pullmans look very good which bogies should be on them ? Nice to see a post from Andy P how are you miss seeing your layouts on here but as long as you are okay keep posting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, lmsforever said: It must be great to have to many locos ,the Pullmans look very good which bogies should be on them ? Nice to see a post from Andy P how are you miss seeing your layouts on here but as long as you are okay keep posting. Hi LMS I believe they should be on 10 ft Pullman bogies, the ones that they are on are too short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) I have an adblock for a reason , I don't like being told that it is slowing things down and disable it. I don't need adverts, if I want something I find where I can get it not having suggestions my life would be better if I brought something I didn't want.......I never had this with the old forum. Over to DEVO.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o Edited February 9, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: I have an adblock for a reason , I don't like being told that it is slowing things down and disable it. I don't need adverts, if I want something I find where I can get it not having suggestions my life would be better if I brought something I didn't want.......I never had this with the old forum. Over to DEVO.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o Hi Clive, My kind of grumpiness!!! I am total agreement, contentment comes from within and not from the purchase of what someone else suggests that you need. Gibbo. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 5 hours ago, lmsforever said: It must be great to have to many locos ,the Pullmans look very good which bogies should be on them ? Nice to see a post from Andy P how are you miss seeing your layouts on here but as long as you are okay keep posting. Hi Bud, Actually I have TWO in the 7mm Section, Bala Town, a 1960's Steam Era BLT, and Seven Mills Sidings, a BR Blue 1980's MOD Exchange Sidings with a small Disused Halt and Fuelling Point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 08/02/2019 at 00:20, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Fran I am at Glasgow as well. I am there with my friend's layout and I have been asked to bring along some of my cut and shut efforts to display. Hi Clive, Which layout, I'll come and say hello. Don't wish to be rude but the avatar photograph looks to be somewhat of its time shall we say. Should you wish to avoid me just tell porkies about the name of the layout and have a laugh at some twerp asking the right questions of the wrong people ! Gibbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 9, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2019 55 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Clive, Which layout, I'll come and say hello. Don't wish to be rude but the avatar photograph looks to be somewhat of its time shall we say. Should you wish to avoid me just tell porkies about the name of the layout and have a laugh at some twerp asking the right questions of the wrong people ! Gibbo. Hi Gibbo I am helping on Tudwick Road. I am easy to spot I am the fat bald bloke. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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