RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 It is held at the (imaginary) signal for a brief moment then makes its way to the headshunt for the stabling point. The shunter changes the point and the driver reverses the train on to the fuel tanker siding. After coupling up the empties and fulls are pulled on to the headshunt. The points are set so the empties and brake can be temporarily parked across the points leading to the loco sidings. The full tank wagons are propelled into the siding so they can discharge their load. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Now the empties need to be sent back to the refinery, like with the loco coal empties the loco is at the wrong end. This time platform 4 is used for running round. The train is shunted back to the (make believe) signal on the L&YR departure line. Again things are held up as a Manchester arrival heads for platform one. Once the train is in Platform four the shunter can uncouple the loco so it can perform its run round. Thankfully nothing has been dumped in the center siding meaning the loco can head to the (fictitious) signal. This time there is no delay waiting for a time tabled train to arrive or leave. Now some of you will be asking why go all that way back, well that is how it will be signaled. There could be moves under control of the signalman and hand signals from a shunter or responsible person but taking locos etc back to the shunt signal is normally safer. As the train departs the guard looks at his watch and thinks "Late finish again! She will be in a bad mood and my dinner will be all shriveled up where it has been put in the oven to keep warm". Edited January 13, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) While I was running the trains, photographing them and reporting their movements I had a mix of songs going one and this one of the many I enjoyed. Edited January 13, 2019 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Hi Doc Can you post a track plan indicating what each track is, it might be helpful for the signalling gurus. I will certainly do that, thanks Clive. In the meantime, I'm happy to report that the station area was wired up this afternoon and tested. And it all works splendidly. I only used two wires 'n all The tracks were tested by my beloved Big GM... I may have lost the faith with modelling US railroads, but I'll always be an EMD man at heart. BR should have bought these en-masse in the mid 70s. Perhaps they will in my parallel universe... Edited January 13, 2019 by Dr Gerbil-Fritters 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Moves look good. Fun to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Similar to Henley on Thames, circa 1950s according to the Karau book. Signalling gurus, have at it. I should probably take this all off to my own thread, but it feels more cosy in here at the moment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) I will certainly do that, thanks Clive. In the meantime, I'm happy to report that the station area was wired up this afternoon and tested. And it all works splendidly. I only used two wires 'n all The tracks were tested by my beloved Big GM... 20190113_163220.jpg 20190113_163305.jpg I may have lost the faith with modelling US railroads, but I'll always be an EMD man at heart. BR should have bought these on mass in the mid 70s. Perhaps they will in my parallel universe... BR should have done a lot of things but like all nationalised industries and national organisations when you change the bosses and moneymen every four to five years and in that time reinvent the policies naff all is achieved that makes the coal face look any better. Big organisations need a long term plan not a short term fix. I will get off my soap box now. As for GM GE locos, they always look ugly compared to their EMD equivalent. A DDA40X looks powerful where a U50 looks like it is about to fall of the tracks. But then a Alco C855, beauty on wheels. Edited January 13, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Think you mean GE (EMD = GM). They were an equal opportunities employer, so they had the U-boats styled by a blind man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 Think you mean GE (EMD = GM). They were an equal opportunities employer, so they had the U-boats styled by a blind man. yeah but Alcos still look better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 Moves look good. Fun to play. Hi Richard It is about my tolerance for shunting. Any longer trains and more sidings and I want to give up just looking at it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 yeah but Alcos still look better.There's a reason why my locomotive collection presently consists of 5 Alcos (and another on order). And nothing else... (They sound brilliant too) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 I have run an eight car DMU, 2x 3 car +1x 2car and it looked good. I am now running a Type 3 on the front of a six coach train and I know it is a short train but it looks right. Progressing (I thing that is the best word to describe the loco hauling) is a six coach suburban with a Brush doing the pulling going the opposite way. I am battling with the triangle. For a scenic break I am going to have a bridge over each line, that is a given I don't fancy tunnels. I still like the idea of the buffer end of a goods yard with the lorries, vans and wagons being loaded/unloaded but I am not to sure about the bridge across the sidings and cartways. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 I still like the idea of the buffer end of a goods yard with the lorries, vans and wagons being loaded/unloaded but I am not to sure about the bridge across the sidings and cartways. Perhaps they could 'emerge' from a large shed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) What a way to spend a Sunday night, I have just used one of Friday's new isolating sections in anger, I am watching a class 114 go one way and a 108 and 101 combined train going the other as I munch on various crackers and biscuits with some Cheddar, Red Leicester and Double Gloucester to accompany them, with Spotify playing various female indie and punk bands in the background. Gotta do somefing now there is no Dr Who on a Sunday. Please no debate about Jodie as Dr Who, I enjoyed the series and don't care about anyone else's view. Edited January 13, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Like Moor Street Goods Yard maybe? Perhaps they could 'emerge' from a large shed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 Perhaps they could 'emerge' from a large shed? Hi Ian Thanks. I thought about that as an option but can't seem to find a goods shed where both the rail and road vehicles appeared out the rear of it. Normally it was the road vehicles one end and the tracks out the other. Why do I end up with either some surplus butter, or an extra cracker or like tonight a lump of Cheddar that has nothing to sit on. :scratchhead: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrms758.htm Is that of any use Clive? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 Like Moor Street Goods Yard maybe? Oh er missus, looks like it has potential. Over the L&YR line is a main road possibly multi lane, running parallel with the goods shed. The other bridge is a minor road that bends soon after crossing the GNR line, it has a junction which slopes down into the yard. I even have a name for the yard, "Halham potato and vegetable". Then the shed is acting as a cover for the transshipment from rail to road not a goods shed where storage can also take place. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 Signalling gurus . . .Are the trap point police allowed out too? Only so that you know where to pretend they are.I do like the description against the Docks Branch. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Here's one you might like Clive. Think new Seat Advert. Dorothy. Edited January 13, 2019 by Andrew P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Edit:Posted before I saw the plan above. So the two set of lines curve in to the station throat and both come under road bridges. Between them you want the ends of (unconnected) sidings, but you don't want a third bridge over these and the access roadways. Why not have the 2 bridges angled across the tracks, so the roads meet at a Y junction? This would give more room for the sidings & lorries, but would also help disguise the exit of the sidings as they 'curve' under one of the two roads. You might also have room for the sloped access ramp to the yard for the road vehicles. Edited January 13, 2019 by Stubby47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Oh er missus, looks like it has potential. Triangle idea.png Over the L&YR line is a main road possibly multi lane, running parallel with the goods shed. The other bridge is a minor road that bends soon after crossing the GNR line, it has a junction which slopes down into the yard. I even have a name for the yard, "Halham potato and vegetable". Then the shed is acting as a cover for the transshipment from rail to road not a goods shed where storage can also take place. And use for the Good Ladies Orses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 Here's one you might like Clive. Think new Seat Advert. Dorothy. Seat advert, I am not old enough to be viewing adverts for seats, reclining or rocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 13, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 I forgot to say that the sketch was done quickly on the flip flop in the train room which doesn't have the track plan files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 14, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2019 Edit:Posted before I saw the plan above. So the two set of lines curve in to the station throat and both come under road bridges. Between them you want the ends of (unconnected) sidings, but you don't want a third bridge over these and the access roadways. Why not have the 2 bridges angled across the tracks, so the roads meet at a Y junction? This would give more room for the sidings & lorries, but would also help disguise the exit of the sidings as they 'curve' under one of the two roads. You might also have room for the sloped access ramp to the yard for the road vehicles. Hi Stu Could you be kind enough when you have a spare moment and do me a sketch. You seem to have a knack for scenic ideas. Cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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