Sheffield Exchange, Toy trains, music and fun!

[Clive Mortimore]

8 minutes ago, john new said:

 

So with the Garrett on the front capable of pulling a 1000 tons as per the text, and with no load in half the wagons, why did it need the banker/pusher? A smoke plume from a banker/pusher loco is clearly visible behind the train unless that is another demo train following close behind. My assumption is it is probably a pusher to avoid the couplings snapping but if it needs a loco each end that rather defeated the object of building such a powerful loco for the head end unless three would otherwise have been needed. Just some observations.

 

I see a big flaw in your argument and even a bigger problem with the statement on the film. Wasn't the LNER bendy loco designed to push not pull? 

[Clive Mortimore]

58 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi Mike,

 

My observation is that the the politics of the left, the right and also the centre have been proven over time not to work. On that basis I would suggest that looking upwards toward the next level of cognizance is now the only option available to any of us.

 

Gibbo.

Wot like this

 

 

[john new]

21 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

I see a big flaw in your argument and even a bigger problem with the statement on the film. Wasn't the LNER bendy loco designed to push not pull? 

Agree, built for duties as the banker on the Worsbrough incline. However, as the most powerful steam loco in the UK  easy to see why the LNER showed it off and why they would put it on the front of their biggest freight wagon rake in a publicity stunt/promotional extravaganza.

[Gibbo675]

40 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Wot like this

 

 

Hi Clive,

 

Not at all really as the the word anarchy comes from the Greek : anarkhia which is simply a conjugation of the words, an: without and arkhos: leader.

Should you enter your higher mind you will see that you don't need stooges of a controlling puppet show purporting to be your leaders telling you what to do, you are more than capable of working it out for yourself.

 

I do however quite like the irony of the title of the video that is, The Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK (official video). I note that stating that it is the (official video) somewhat ridicules the whole charade !

 

I also note that they do follow the rules of music by playing their instruments rather well to the tune of proficiently structured music and also that the production values are very high for a bunch of so called anarchists or did they just take responsibility and pride in what they did in a personal manner rather than have some puppet masters tell them what to do ?

 

Confused as ever,

 

Gibbo.

Edited May 14, 2020 by Gibbo675

[Enterprisingwestern]

1 hour ago, john new said:

Agree, built for duties as the banker on the Worsbrough incline. However, as the most powerful steam loco in the UK  easy to see why the LNER showed it off and why they would put it on the front of their biggest freight wagon rake in a publicity stunt/promotional extravaganza.

 

If you had a big one wouldn't you want to show it off?

 

Mike.

[Clive Mortimore]

49 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi Clive,

 

Not at all really as the the word anarchy comes from the Greek : anarkhia which is simply a conjugation of the words, an: without and arkhos: leader.

Should you enter your higher mind you will see that you don't need stooges of a controlling puppet show purporting to be your leaders telling you what to do, you are more than capable of working it out for yourself.

 

I do however quite like the irony of the title of the video that is, The Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK (official video). I note that stating that it is the (official video) somewhat ridicules the whole charade !

 

I also note that they do follow the rules of music by playing their instruments rather well to the tune of proficiently structured music and also that the production values are very high for a bunch of so called anarchists or did they just take responsibility and pride in what they did in a personal manner rather than have some puppet masters tell them what to do ?

 

Confused as ever,

 

Gibbo.

Hi Gibbo

 

In answer to the question you pose at the end of your post, Malcolm McLaren.

 

Anarchy would never work, despite its principles of a society without leaders. It wouldn't work because of greedy people and selfish people. 

 

I am now jumping off the soap box.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

50 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

If you had a big one wouldn't you want to show it off?

 

Mike.

Is that why you and I are not porn stars?

[Gibbo675]

21 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Is that why you and I are not porn stars?

Hi Clive,

 

Speak for your self !!!

 

 

Gibbo.

[Clive Mortimore]

With a tash like that wot other profession could you do.

[Northmoor]

1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Anarchy would never work, despite its principles of a society without leaders. It wouldn't work because of greedy people and selfish people. 

 

I am now jumping off the soap box.

 

Sorry, I'll take your place on that soapbox, Clive.  Anarchy will also not work because there are also two small but significant groups in society: (1) those who for whatever reason (disability or health, etc.), need someone to look after them and (2) those people who for whatever reason, refuse to take any responsibility for themselves and expect "them" to organise their lives.

 

It's funny when you hear of flashmob events like 100 people dancing in Liverpool Street station concourse, or a similar number decide to camp out at a bed shop , being described by the participants as "anarchic".  I struggle to see what's anarchic about a large group of people turning up to an agreed location at an agreed time to perform a rehearsed activity.  

 

1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Is that why you and I are not porn stars?

Yeah, THAT's the reason.....

[Gibbo675]

34 minutes ago, Northmoor said:

Sorry, I'll take your place on that soapbox, Clive.  Anarchy will also not work because there are also two small but significant groups in society: (1) those who for whatever reason (disability or health, etc.), need someone to look after them and (2) those people who for whatever reason, refuse to take any responsibility for themselves and expect "them" to organise their lives.

 

It's funny when you hear of flashmob events like 100 people dancing in Liverpool Street station concourse, or a similar number decide to camp out at a bed shop , being described by the participants as "anarchic".  I struggle to see what's anarchic about a large group of people turning up to an agreed location at an agreed time to perform a rehearsed activity.  

 

Yeah, THAT's the reason.....

Hi Northmoor,

 

To quote Alan Greenspan:

 

"I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."

 

Gibbo.

[Enterprisingwestern]

2 hours ago, Gibbo675 said:

Hi Clive,

 

Speak for your self !!!

 

 

Gibbo.

 

Don't fancy yours much Clive!!!

 

Mike.

[Clive Mortimore]

2 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Don't fancy yours much Clive!!!

 

Mike.

I always knew you liked a hairy chest.

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, Northmoor said:

Sorry, I'll take your place on that soapbox, Clive.  Anarchy will also not work because there are also two small but significant groups in society: (1) those who for whatever reason (disability or health, etc.), need someone to look after them and (2) those people who for whatever reason, refuse to take any responsibility for themselves and expect "them" to organise their lives.

 

It's funny when you hear of flashmob events like 100 people dancing in Liverpool Street station concourse, or a similar number decide to camp out at a bed shop , being described by the participants as "anarchic".  I struggle to see what's anarchic about a large group of people turning up to an agreed location at an agreed time to perform a rehearsed activity.  

 

Yeah, THAT's the reason.....

Hi Northmoor

 

In an anarchist society those who need caring will be cared for as everyone will respect each other and support those who are less able. 

 

Now acts like you describe are what is put out by those who think anarchy is lawlessness. True an anarchist society doesn't need laws as previously stated everyone will have respect for each other. Those who claim anarchy is about unruliness are the very ones who need rules and someone else to organise them, they need a government, they need bosses etc.

 

Edit The Sex Pistols were as close to anarchy as Mike and I are to being porn stars.

Edited May 14, 2020 by Clive Mortimore

[Dr Gerbil-Fritters]

The misappropriation of 'anarchy' to imply unruly mob rule is one of many examples of the boss class warping language to suit their own purposes, largely that of maintaining power and wealth by disempowering and exploiting the rest of us by distorting the way we can think, speak and act.

 

And now, back to our regular programmes

[pirouets]

There is regular programming on this channel??

 

I like the think you understand what you thought I said quote though I wonder if is more used than just Alan Greenspan though there is a 1980s quote where he said to the US Senate, Since becoming a central banker, I have learned to mumble with great incoherence. If I seem unduly clear to you, you must have misunderstood what I said. (Might have to try this at work)

[richard i]

3 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Edit The Sex Pistols were as close to anarchy as Mike and I are to being porn stars.

So you have not told the others of your film past, wasn’t your go to character a plumber who had come to fix a washing machine which was broken? 

[Clive Mortimore]

17 minutes ago, richard i said:

So you have not told the others of your film past, wasn’t your go to character a plumber who had come to fix a washing machine which was broken? 

Look I am not coming around to yours to fix your plumbing

[richard i]

4 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Look I am not coming around to yours to fix your plumbing

You could as trades people have been told to go back to work. 

[Gibbo675]

33 minutes ago, richard i said:

You could as trades people have been told to go back to work. 

Hi Richard,

 

Getting back to work is so far proving difficult for I went to a woman's house yesterday to quote for a joinery job, however today, I have to my surprise, discovered that I cannot get wood.

 

Gibbo.

[Clive Mortimore]

I have changed the stock so 1/3rd is DMU and I have an equal number of diesel and steam locos for the hauled trains. 

 

How lovely to hear the sound of a pair of Lima motors as they power the Harrogate to Sheffield via Leeds DMU.  The passengers from Huddersfield are travelling in non-gangway coaches behind a dirty Ivatt class 4. Many of us today would like to have a journey in a compartment only coach with no facilities with a steam loco in the front but In the sixties many of the travelling public liked the new diesel railcars. 

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

The compressor and airbrushes arrived today, despite Amazon saying it would be next week. Good hey? 

 

I also received two new books on SR EMUs from Booklaw today. I only ordered them yesterday, well done Cath and Amy. 

 

Some important trains are steam hauled, the mid day York has just departed with a BR class 5 on the front and the Liverpool  parcels is heading westward with a Black five on the front. 

[Dagworth]

All this talk of anarchy and social distancing and what you are and aren’t allowed to do, is this the right time to point out that in England the police have no legal powers to enforce the 2m separation? 
 

https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/understanding-the-law/Documents/Health-Protection-Regulations-Amendments-England-changes-130520.pdf

 

Andi

[Clive Mortimore]

17 minutes ago, Dagworth said:

All this talk of anarchy and social distancing and what you are and aren’t allowed to do, is this the right time to point out that in England the police have no legal powers to enforce the 2m separation? 
 

https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/understanding-the-law/Documents/Health-Protection-Regulations-Amendments-England-changes-130520.pdf

 

Andi

Yet the fine has gone up to £100, for what? 

 

I think the old army expression of cow poo baffles grey cells is now in force. 

 

Scotland seem to have some simple rules....

 

Have a butchers at some of Janey Godley's other takes on the daily briefings, poor old Frank has have her dinner ready when she comes home. 

Edited May 14, 2020 by Clive Mortimore

[Gibbo675]

20 minutes ago, Dagworth said:

All this talk of anarchy and social distancing and what you are and aren’t allowed to do, is this the right time to point out that in England the police have no legal powers to enforce the 2m separation? 
 

https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/understanding-the-law/Documents/Health-Protection-Regulations-Amendments-England-changes-130520.pdf

 

Andi

Hi Andi,

 

I'll second you on that one !!!

 

Government is only a corporation that contracts with persons (not human beings) via contracts known as statute acts. Should you "act" in the capacity of a person instead of claiming your inalienable rights as a human being and should you then not perform to contract you have then broken the law.

 

The law broken is actually for non performance of contract (breach of contract) in that humans mistakenly claim the name held under Crown Copyright on a birth certificate. You then, having claimed their name, not your own, are guilty of mischief in contract (fraud). See Blacks Law Dictionary for definitions of types of crime, there are only five. This is why the rozzers always want a name and address so that they might gain commercial service, beware of commercial joinder with such corporations via their agents falsely claiming to be constables.

 

The lesson here is always hold rozzers to their oaths of office which is to uphold the law and not to offer commercial contracts, remind them that the Bills of Exchange act covers their commercial activities also.

Should they get snotty quote the nine Peelian Principals to them, they don't like that either.

Best of all if they ever tell them you are under caution explain that they are also under that very same caution and that you will use their words against them in any court that you choose to take them to.

 

https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/police-crime-prevention-service---a-short-history/744/the-peelian-principles/

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/45-46/61

 

Cognitive Dissonance and Stockholm Syndrome are powerful enemies of those the do not require salvage upon the paper-sea.

 

Gibbo.