RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2014 It cannot easily be removed by subsequent washing in a carriage washing plant although we used to find that it could be removed by vigorously hand washing a vehicle using GIC (BR General Interior Cleaner) which also had the advantage, when properly rinsed, of leaving a nice shiny finish. Easy enough (but time expensive) on coaching stock Hand-bashing with Wundagunge was the answer on the South Eastern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hand-bashing with Wundagunge was the answer on the South Eastern. That was the dog's wotsits!! GIC was Fairy Liquid compared to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2014 That was the dog's wotsits!! GIC was Fairy Liquid compared to that. Absolutely - in fact some of us were convinced that was exactly what GIC was! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2014 Interestingly, when I asked Google about Wundagunge, I got just three resources, all on RMweb, all written by me.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Aha, will it look like this? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-1423-0-06507400-1416051017.jpg Can I just confirm this is how my one will look please? Edited November 18, 2014 by mikesndbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Can I just confirm this is how my one will look please? Hi Mike, no sorry. i'll get a change made to the Kernow listing to point out that sywp in will not have the red stripe. I'm still hunting for pictures of the red stripe with sywp, but they either didnt exist or were as rare as green FYWP. cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Mike, no sorry. i'll get a change made to the Kernow listing to point out that sywp in will not have the red stripe. I'm still hunting for pictures of the red stripe with sywp, but they either didnt exist or were as rare as green FYWP. cheers Dave that's really bad news Dave, that's how I like it and as shown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 that's really bad news Dave, that's how I like it and as shown Hi Mike, Totally agree as i like it like that. unfortunately, apart from it being a preserved livery (apparently) id rather have an authentic as possible livery (from its time in regular service). Apologies for confusing and the disappointment caused. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Is putting on a yellow panel really that hard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Is putting on a yellow panel really that hard? It's not the yellow panel but the red stripe along the side. I had thought I was ordering the as preserved livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Mike, no sorry. i'll get a change made to the Kernow listing to point out that sywp in will not have the red stripe. I'm still hunting for pictures of the red stripe with sywp, but they either didnt exist or were as rare as green FYWP. cheers Dave Hi Dave I can find a number of photos showing them with the red stripe but not yellow panel https://www.flickr.com/photos/gricerman/7777195530/in/photolist-cRf9ZW-cRfa8Y-cRfah7-cRf9Lh-hnVUpA-dLzqWC-bfNysp-fDkpB5-fDkhqd-fD3wox-f3LHbM-fD2YwM-6qhwb5-bfNyNV-7TQZPD-ge2UJw-8kaioc-pKC4DK-7TUfgs-8wPmEr-8wPmbv-8wPmr8-8x5LQs-dhApHu-8nc4p7-8x5LUS-aczAK6-aczAfr-6LGMfg-4CBbEE-6LLX11-7TQY36-7TTQa1-bryREX-eE9LUm-fD36JM-fD34ir-fDjLps-fDjHS1-fD3dCD-fD31Pt-fD3sht-fDknZS-fDk1dL-fDjQHY-fD3EzP-fD3mNz-oiUVDd-ahJb1D-o6NQ8w/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Dave I can find a number of photos showing them with the red stripe but not yellow panel https://www.flickr.com/photos/gricerman/7777195530/in/photolist-cRf9ZW-cRfa8Y-cRfah7-cRf9Lh-hnVUpA-dLzqWC-bfNysp-fDkpB5-fDkhqd-fD3wox-f3LHbM-fD2YwM-6qhwb5-bfNyNV-7TQZPD-ge2UJw-8kaioc-pKC4DK-7TUfgs-8wPmEr-8wPmbv-8wPmr8-8x5LQs-dhApHu-8nc4p7-8x5LUS-aczAK6-aczAfr-6LGMfg-4CBbEE-6LLX11-7TQY36-7TTQa1-bryREX-eE9LUm-fD36JM-fD34ir-fDjLps-fDjHS1-fD3dCD-fD31Pt-fD3sht-fDknZS-fDk1dL-fDjQHY-fD3EzP-fD3mNz-oiUVDd-ahJb1D-o6NQ8w/ Hi Mike, ive found them with upper small yellow warning panels and lower small yellow warning panel but with the red strip as well? no, not yet. :-( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Mike, ive found them with upper small yellow warning panels and lower small yellow warning panel but with the red strip as well? no, not yet. :-( Hi Dave Me to, as I said I thought I was ordering it as preserved. While disappointed it's not so bad that I'll cancel my order but it does mean I have to decide what's most important to me. Can I assume that the all green versions as in my pic attached will have the smart red stripe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 So if I swapped to OO71-002 would I get the above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Mike, Yes, your totally correct. cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Mike, Yes, your totally correct. cheers Dave OK Dave, are you able to amend my order or do I go via Kernow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 OK Dave, are you able to amend my order or do I go via Kernow? Hi Mike, sorry again but you will have to contact Kernow as they have the database of models required and paid for. cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi Mike, sorry again but you will have to contact Kernow as they have the database of models required and paid for. cheers Dave OK Dave, just mailed them, hope they will be ok about it. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Just found a pic on John Evans FLICKR site (tried to put link up but wont let me copy and paste) of what is said to be E5003 at Crewe south shed in Feb 67 with a hefty chunk out of its side. Its still in plain green with no body side stripe and no yellow end. it also says when released it was a Cl 74 E6107 . There is also a shot on Transport Photographs (also on FLICKR) showing 3 class 71 one of which is said to be E5003 still in light green but with red? body side stripe and no yellow end apparently in October 63 This is being released OOS71-001 E5003 BR GREEN SMALL YELLOW WARNING PANEL Trailrage Further to this I give you (read the caption)- https://www.flickr.com/photos/24041160@N02/2734766075/in/photolist-dYXzvG-8WdtHS-h1t7tL-9kFNB6-5aEoFe-5E5V1n-aWgEEk-9zz52i-cq86FJ-ckV7SS-2NMyBE-nGEtCj-anfC4E-dupYGQ-dujp6v So the original E5003 didnt receive a yellow panel but did the second one or did it go straight into blue on renumbering? Edited November 18, 2014 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Royaloak nice find completely forgot some of the class got renumbered to fill in the gaps from the CL74 conversions looks like another mystery to be solved Not worried about the bodyside stripe just a yellow panel to fit in with my era The search continues! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I was just stumbling around Flickr and landed on it, I would assume the renumbering took place on repaint to blue, it would have been around the right time for it although pictures of them are a bit thin on the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 I was just stumbling around Flickr and landed on it, I would assume the renumbering took place on repaint to blue, it would have been around the right time for it although pictures of them are a bit thin on the ground. I agree on the pictures. Books are light on covering the 71 and 74's too. They tend to cover the 73's a lot but nothing really on the other maidens of the Southern by comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Well took the plunge and ordered these two this morning E5003 BR GREEN SYE and 71013 BR BLUE FYE I'm sure with big Dave's reputation for quality when we do get to see them in the flesh they will be the most accurate,detailed and beautiful D&E era models ever produced . So over to you Dave PS no pressure then! Edited November 19, 2014 by TRAILRAGE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Thanks mate, However you will, as per my usual practice get to look the cad/cams over before metal cutting. So it should iron out the wrong roof profile, door steps and railcar hybrids of this world Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Best change it to a 74 now while you still can.CheersShane Edited November 22, 2014 by Wolf27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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